Building 2 Dual Xeon Crunchers in Computer Hardware Discussion/Reviews http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19185928 en Sat, 28 Nov 2009 09:31:33 EDT Sat, 28 Nov 2009 09:31:33 EDT Re: Building 2 Dual Xeon Crunchers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19192792 Tursiops_G :
said by JBP See Profile :

Im having a bit of trouble locating a cheap case for the two. All i want is a 1 5.25bay and at least 2 3.5in internal bays and in black. those are my only conditions. Im having trouble because it is a SSI CEB (12.0" x 10.2"; 304.8mm x 259.1mm) board.
From what you are describing, you want a "Mini-ATX" Case style, but that board will require at least a Mid-3/4 to Full-Size ATX case... Black is indeed nice, but is usually a bit more expensive than Plain Beige/White... Also, "Cheap" PC Cases usually come with *CHEAP* Power Supplies, and that can put your Entire Hardware Investment at risk... :huh:

If you haven't already done so, Give NewEgg a try: »www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory···er-Cases

-Tursiops_G.
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If You're Unsure, "RTFM"... If You're SURE, "RTFM" Anyway. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19192792 Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:36:54 EDT Re: Building 2 Dual Xeon Crunchers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19192775 JoelC707 : 12" x 10"? That's doable. Not in the case you want but there is one though it isn't technically a "case". How about this guy: »www.highspeedpc.com/Merchant2/me···hStation. It has a baseplate that is 14" x 13", it is intended for an e-ATX board but I believe the SSI CEB boards share the same mounting holes. If not it shouldn't be hard to modify. Yeah, it's expensive but so is any case that will fit an E-ATX or SSI CEB board, especially if it is as small as you want (people tend to charge more to make things smaller).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19192775 Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:33:47 EDT Re: Building 2 Dual Xeon Crunchers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19192656 grobinette : Have you thought about setting them up like a blade and not using a case? That will keep them cooler.

If fan noise is a concern or you have cats it might not be the best solution.

If the object of the game is cheap crunchers though it might be an option.....
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19192656 Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:11:18 EDT Re: Building 2 Dual Xeon Crunchers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19192429 JBP : Im having a bit of trouble locating a cheap case for the two. All i want is a 1 5.25bay and at least 2 3.5in internal bays and in black. those are my only conditions. Im having trouble because it is a SSI CEB (12.0" x 10.2"; 304.8mm x 259.1mm) board.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19192429 Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:34:48 EDT Re: Building 2 Dual Xeon Crunchers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19192221 grobinette :
said by JBP See Profile :

i haven't been able to find information that states that this board will support the newer low voltage xeons.
I don't think you will.

It looks to be an interim board that came out at the end of the socket 604 life cycle. Tyan probably patched it with an updated BIOS and a few tweaks so it could handle the last of that generation of Xeons.

I'd find a nice matched pair of compatible Xeons, a couple of good heat sinks some memory and a good power supply and then let it crunch. The Xeon family of processors are very durable.

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said by JBP See Profile :

and your point being? i knew they wouldnt be the fastest but I thought It would be a good cheap rig to start folding. maybe ill get an answer at EOCF for the max supported cpu
You may want to consider your energy cost. Newer chips, especially if integrated video is used tend to be lower in power consumption than their older cousins.
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said by Vathral See Profile :

Is this for Team Helix?
Both machines will be for Team Helix, Possibly Seti@Home also if possible. one machine will also host a SFTP server as well.

I would like to keep each machine under $1000. Thats the budget that I have as of right now. but it will be one piece at a time build unfortunately :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19191672 Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:22:17 EDT Re: Building 2 Dual Xeon Crunchers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19188925 JoelC707 : It's too bad you already bought the boards because I have a better suggestion for you. I would suggest looking on ebay or craigslist for a Dell PowerEdge 2600 server. These are very similar to what you want to do in that they support two Xeon CPUs but they do not support dual core versions (533 bus) and max out at 3.06GHz. There are several to choose from at $500 and cheaper, some as low as $300 but those don't usually have dual CPUs. Of course the case for the 2600 is huge so you may not want something that big in which case the route you are taking is better.

If you want to continue down this path I would suggest that 3.4GHz or maybe 3.6GHz would be the maximum those boards would support. But given the prices of even the 2.8GHz CPU, how much are you willing to spend on this?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19188925 Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:02:42 EDT Re: Building 2 Dual Xeon Crunchers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19188022 Anonymous_ : you can get an used 20 gig for about 300 at an game store (Used)
it will also use less power (dual dual cores would use about 125 Watts each) once u add the other stuff it's over 400 watts

there for paying for it self ( it only uses 200watts)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19188022 Wed, 03 Oct 2007 06:34:01 EDT Re: Building 2 Dual Xeon Crunchers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19188015 grobinette : They should take the processors that Tursiops_G See Profile referenced. If you match up what processors the Intel 7320 chipset can handle it will give you a key.
»www.intel.com/products/chipsets/···ndex.htm

I don't know that I would go for the fastest as the Xeon's are easily overclocked. I run 2.8's at 3.1, which is a minor overclock, but still within the specifications that Intel says they can handle.

You might want to do some digging around here »forums.2cpu.com/ as they specialize in dualies.
Update, I checked through 2cpu.com and did not find anything on that particular board.
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said by JBP See Profile :

and your point being? i knew they wouldnt be the fastest but I thought It would be a good cheap rig to start folding. maybe ill get an answer at EOCF for the max supported cpu
Just an FYI, Here's what I found on Pricewatch for the Xeon 2.8GHz, 800 MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache chips (the Minimum CPU that those Tyan series of boards support, AFAIK)... The prices skyrocket from there... :o »www.pricewatch.com/cpu/xeon_2.8g···_1mb.htm

-Tursiops_G.
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If You're Unsure, "RTFM"... If You're SURE, "RTFM" Anyway. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19187219 Wed, 03 Oct 2007 00:00:07 EDT Re: Building 2 Dual Xeon Crunchers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19186577 Vathral : Is this for Team Helix?

Anyways, I've haven't found anything either for that board for 20 minutes now :(

One thing I recommend to those dealing with Team Helix and going to spend atleast 500 dollars to crunch could always go with a Playstation 3 which would be more cost effective. However, I doubt you will reach that price mark.

edit: Just to add, been a while since I crunched anything so sorry if I confused anything seeing you have the SETI@Home icon.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19186577 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:06:38 EDT Re: Building 2 Dual Xeon Crunchers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19186564 Tursiops_G : From what I can find here: »www.tyan.com/(A(2JbrjoMItedD1XJy···cketid=5
My Safest Guess would be the Xeon Socket 604 3.6GHz (800MHz FSB) CPU w/2MB L2 Cache... With Tyan's lack of EXACT info on your particular board (S5351), I'd be hesitant to suggest even trying the 3.8GHz chips on that board. :(

(Edit): I DID (finally) find a reference to the S5351, and it does indeed mention XEON DUAL-CORE capability, but the lack of any reference to this board on their CPU guide is puzzling: »www.tyan.com/product_board_detai···?pid=535

Further Research is Definitely Needed...

-Tursiops_G.
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If You're Unsure, "RTFM"... If You're SURE, "RTFM" Anyway. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19186564 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:04:01 EDT Re: Building 2 Dual Xeon Crunchers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19186428 JBP : and your point being? i knew they wouldnt be the fastest but I thought It would be a good cheap rig to start folding. maybe ill get an answer at EOCF for the max supported cpu ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19186428 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 21:40:13 EDT Re: Building 2 Dual Xeon Crunchers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19186399 Joe12345678 : old board and DDR-333/266 ECC. and they taken the bios updates down form there site.

A old 940 amd dual cpu system will blow that away and it has more pci-e lanes with SLI.

This is a old intel board with 1 fsb that each of the cpus are on.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19186399 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 21:34:51 EDT Building 2 Dual Xeon Crunchers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19185928 JBP : I just bought 2 Tiger i7322 (S5351) dual socket 604 motherboards from geeks.com for 29.95 each (last 2 in stock actually). I am trying to find the max supported xeon cpu for these boards but with no luck. I looked allover the tyan site but came up empty handed. I just dont want to buy 4 EXPENSIVE cpus and not be able to return them. thanks in advance.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19185928 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:23:44 EDT