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superdog
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join:2001-07-13
Lebanon, PA

reply to Draxsr

Re: U.S. economy loses $58 billion from piracy every year.

said by Draxsr :

The sub-prime "screw up's" aren't a government problem. It's a greed problem. The people in this country have issues with living within their means. No one forces one to sign a mortgage without giving it your own due diligance. Opting for an absurd, adjustable rate rests solely on the moron signing the paperwork. And I'd love to meet the moron who signs up for an 'interest only' mortgage where their payments pay ONLY the interest and nothing on the principle. It's what happens when someone making 30K/year thinks they need to live in a 300K house. It's sad and those morons do not deserve to be bailed out by the taxes others, who know how to live within their means, shell out. IMHO, YMMV.
That is a perfect statement, and one I wish I made myself.
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justaguy

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Your screen name is amazingly appropriate



Bas

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reply to superdog

said by superdog:

said by Draxsr :

The sub-prime "screw up's" aren't a government problem. It's a greed problem. The people in this country have issues with living within their means. No one forces one to sign a mortgage without giving it your own due diligance. Opting for an absurd, adjustable rate rests solely on the moron signing the paperwork. And I'd love to meet the moron who signs up for an 'interest only' mortgage where their payments pay ONLY the interest and nothing on the principle. It's what happens when someone making 30K/year thinks they need to live in a 300K house. It's sad and those morons do not deserve to be bailed out by the taxes others, who know how to live within their means, shell out. IMHO, YMMV.
That is a perfect statement, and one I wish I made myself.
The problem with your little theory is that in most suburban areas next to a MAJOR CITY a 1200 square foot house on a postage stamp sized lawn costs $250,000.00. So where do you suppose people should live, a cardboard box?


voiplover
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join:2004-05-28
Portsmouth, NH

reply to BF69
Makes me want to go POP some CORN now!


russotto

join:2000-10-05
West Orange, NJ

reply to Bas

said by Bas :

The problem with your little theory is that in most suburban areas next to a MAJOR CITY a 1200 square foot house on a postage stamp sized lawn costs $250,000.00. So where do you suppose people should live, a cardboard box?
Plenty of larger and cheaper places are available, in places like North Philadelphia, Camden, East St. Louis, Anacostia, etc....


ReformCRTC
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join:2004-03-07
Canada

reply to dodgetech2

Re: U.S. economy loses $58 billion from piracy every year.

Because he is a right-wing dork sporking the Pigman Limbaugh party line.


TScheisskopf
World News Trust

join:2005-02-13
Belvidere, NJ

reply to fAcEtIOUs

said by fAcEtIOUs:

said by Hangmn:

Who cares what it costs businesses. These idiots are in an arena where they are obviously out classed. If it can be done it will be done period. F'k em I screw em every chance I get
Ah, the philosophy of every criminal that goes thru the criminal justice system. And people wonder why so many people are in prison in the US.
Because incarceration is big business and big profits?

madrhino

join:2004-07-03

reply to BF69

said by BF69:
cheap or porr to have amore .... See I have a M.A in REALITY,

Porr amore?You are talking about grain cereal love??Huh?

Didn't that degree require any English classes?
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NormanS
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said by BF69:

Surely you are not suggesting that priratng cost businesses NOTHING?
How would you design a metric to determine what the **AA is losing to piracy? Do you assume that every pirated copy of a movie is a lost sale? On what basis do you make that assumption? What if nobody offered pirated content, and sales remained at their current levels?

The **AA estimates their losses by first taking a WAG at how many copies of Titanic the public would buy, if they couldn't get a pirated copy. Then they take a WAG at how many pirated copies are floating around on the Internet. They subtract the second WAG from the first WAG, and derive the dollar amount of sales not made; but the result of their wagging is: WAG/A - WAG/B = WAG/X.

A WAG is still a WAG, no matter how the **AA spins it.

NOTE: WAG = Wild Assessed Guess
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NormanS
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reply to BF69

said by BF69:

Yes and what change are you effecting by pirating?
Ah, there is the rub. I don't trade in pirated **AA content. If it isn't worth paying to see it, it isn't worth seeing at all.
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nekkidtruth
You fail at life.
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reply to Yauch

said by Yauch:

And I have a M.A. in basic reading comprehension. When someone prefaces their statements with "one would assume" that means that they are making an assumption and stating an opinion. And my M.A. in 3rd grade vocab words would tell me that opinion means that it cannot be backed up by fact because it is a personally held belief.
Clearly your "basic reading comprehension" skills are no better than you claim mine are. I was calling B.S. on his statement that he probably ends up paying in the end for my pirating blah blah blah, to which I responded with "prove it".

Maybe we should move down to 2nd grade vocabulary to ensure we both understand
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fatness
subtle
Janitor
join:2000-11-17
fishing
kudos:13

Is not.

Is too.

Is not.

Is too.



TScheisskopf
World News Trust

join:2005-02-13
Belvidere, NJ

reply to BF69
HEY KARL!!! Kaaarrrrlll!!!

Please, can we have a demerit system in these threads about the RIAA? One that automatically hits any poster that brings up the specious equivalency between pirated anything and child porn, child rape, child molestation and child auto seats with a negative score?

God weeps and a kitty dies every time this half-a**ed argument is put forth.


Gruesome

join:2007-10-18
Milton, ON
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reply to fAcEtIOUs

said by fAcEtIOUs:

said by Hangmn:

Who cares what it costs businesses. These idiots are in an arena where they are obviously out classed. If it can be done it will be done period. F'k em I screw em every chance I get
Ah, the philosophy of every criminal that goes thru the criminal justice system. And people wonder why so many people are in prison in the US.
If more bankers were in Jail I might agree

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