yabos
join:2003-02-16
Ingersoll, ON | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: U.S. economy loses $58 billion from piracy every year.
Yeah, it's because you can go to jail for having a roach in your ash tray. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to drdaleemille
said by drdaleemille  :said by BF69 :said by dodgetech2 :Random number generator? Surely you are not suggesting that priratng cost businesses NOTHING? I have an M.A. in economics and I still need someone to explain to me what economic loss means in this context. Suppose that I pirate TV shows, and because I don't spend my money on cable I am able to make bigger car payments, so I buy a more expensive car. Or I am able to invest more, which gives businesses more capital. Has the national economy lost anything, or is it a wash? NBC may have lost, but does the U.S. lose? One would assume if you are so cheap to pirate something you fail to pay for other things too. And face it you're too cheap or porr to have amore expensive car. See I have a M.A in REALITY, not on economic theories base on fanciful hypothetical situations. Down the line SOMEONE pays for all that pirating and it's probably me. So yeah color me ticked off. |
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swhx7
Premium
join:2006-07-23
Elbonia
 ·RoadRunner Cable
2 edits | reply to dodgetech2
I've about had enough of the popular press repeating whatever bogus "piracy" numbers the copyright holders make up, without any question or analysis, implying to the public that they're valid.
A supposed lack of sales that hypothetically might have happened under conditions contrary to fact, is not a "loss" under any reasonable or recognized accounting principles. If a company put such an item on its financial statements as a "loss", the stockholders could sue for fraud and the SEC would punish the management and force a re-accounting. That's because it's fiction.
Of course as everyone knows, too, they assume every infringer would have bought a copy at full retail price, so it's becoming a question of whether reporters are complicit in foisting this BS on the readers, or how bizarre and preposterous the claims can be before the media will start questioning them. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to Hangmn
said by Hangmn :said by BF69 :said by dodgetech2 :Random number generator? Surely you are not suggesting that priratng cost businesses NOTHING? Who cares what it costs businesses. These idiots are in an arena where they are obviously out classed. If it can be done it will be done period. What about the money businesses are costing families? With no congressional oversite on health care..the sub prime mortgage screw ups, which buy the way the middle class will be bailing out and so on. F'k em I screw em every chance I get So you're the "cut your nose to spite you face" kind of guy huh? Yes screw big business which only provide the JOBS that provide Americans with the moeny they need to live. Real fricken smart. I am assuming you know what a JOB is. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to Hangmn
Re: U.S. economy loses $58 billion from piracy every year.
said by Hangmn :said by TKJunkMail :said by Hangmn :Who cares what it costs businesses. These idiots are in an arena where they are obviously out classed. If it can be done it will be done period. F'k em I screw em every chance I get Ah, the philosophy of every criminal that goes thru the criminal justice system. And people wonder why so many people are in prison in the US. So should we effect change..or just take it? The Revolutionary Army was "criminal"...until they won. Yes and what change are you effecting by pirating? I'm 100% sure that when people enjoying their pirated versions of movies and music that are doing it for the "greater good" and are thinking about their contribution to your so called "revolution" and not doing it for their own selfish desires. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to Hangmn
said by Hangmn :said by TKJunkMail :said by Hangmn :Who cares what it costs businesses. These idiots are in an arena where they are obviously out classed. If it can be done it will be done period. F'k em I screw em every chance I get Ah, the philosophy of every criminal that goes thru the criminal justice system. And people wonder why so many people are in prison in the US. So many people are in prison in the US because the Laws are out of control, and the legislatures are bought and sold every day... You're right! Damn those laws against murder, rape, child molestation and drug dealing!!!!!!!! |
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Hangmn
Don't Fight It...It's Inevitable
Premium
join:2000-04-08
Philadelphia, PA
| reply to BF69
said by BF69 :Yes and what change are you effecting by pirating? I'm 100% sure that when people enjoying their pirated versions of movies and music that are doing it for the "greater good" and are thinking about their contribution to your so called "revolution" and not doing it for their own selfish desires. And I suppose you are going out to Best Buy every week and buying this swill like a good little consumer?
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to nasadude
said by nasadude :said by dodgetech2 :Random number generator? apparently not quite random, as the number gets higher with every new "study". People that probably collect welfare and food stamps yet have money to buy cigs are pirating more and more each day. |
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Hangmn
Don't Fight It...It's Inevitable
Premium
join:2000-04-08
Philadelphia, PA
| reply to BF69
said by BF69 :You're right! Damn those laws against murder, rape, child molestation and drug dealing!!!!!!!! You are truley showing your ignorance son
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to yabos
said by yabos :Yeah, it's because you can go to jail for having a roach in your ash tray. First of all pot is ILLEGAL. If you wish it not to be do something about it or move to Canada or Alaska. Secondly in most states just having a roach in your ashtray won't get you any jail time. Maybe a years probabtion at most. Thirdly if you are that dumb to leave a roach in your ashtry for the cops to find maybe you deserve jail. |
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kfsutops
Premium
join:2002-08-19
Brandon, FL
clubs: 
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said by BF69 :urely you are not suggesting that priratng cost businesses NOTHING? I would suggest it..and stop calling me surely.
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dodgetech2
join:2002-01-01
Gouldsboro, PA
·ProLog
 ·Vonage
| reply to BF69
said by BF69 :said by dodgetech2 :Random number generator? Surely you are not suggesting that priratng cost businesses NOTHING? Um....is that what I said? |
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dodgetech2
join:2002-01-01
Gouldsboro, PA
·ProLog
·Vonage
| reply to BF69
said by BF69 :said by nasadude :said by dodgetech2 :Random number generator? apparently not quite random, as the number gets higher with every new "study". People that probably collect welfare and food stamps yet have money to buy cigs are pirating more and more each day. why does almost every single post by you have a reference to welfare in it?
are you that much of a troll that you just post that stupid crap in every thread? |
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bmn
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus | reply to BF69
You were doing so well until you threw "drug dealing" into the mix... |
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bmn
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
| reply to BF69
said by BF69 :First of all pot is ILLEGAL. Which does not make it wrong, only illegal.
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bmn
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
| reply to TKJunkMail
said by TKJunkMail :Ah, the philosophy of every criminal that goes thru the criminal justice system. And people wonder why so many people are in prison in the US. (bolding mine)
Call us when you actually have some data to back that supposed theory you have outlined here since, as the facts would stand, it is wrong.
Maybe we should start locking people up who state things as fact without data to back it up... Hmmm.
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nekkidtruth
You fail at life.
Premium
join:2002-05-20
London, ON
| reply to BF69
said by BF69 :One would assume if you are so cheap to pirate something you fail to pay for other things too. And face it you're too cheap or porr to have amore expensive car. See I have a M.A in REALITY, not on economic theories base on fanciful hypothetical situations. Down the line SOMEONE pays for all that pirating and it's probably me. So yeah color me ticked off. I have an M.A. in B.S. Which I'm calling on this. Where is your proof?
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ph03n1x
join:2003-02-15
Sanford, FL
| reply to BF69
The rampant piracy of content, while it has caused a bunch of bullshit spin and lawsuits has also led to the creation of:
iTunes
Yahoo Music
Real Rhapsody
eMusic
Napster (legal version)
MTV Urge
Zune
Movielink
CinemaNow
BitTorrent Store (legal version)
Vongo
Amazon UnBox
Netflix
Blockbuster Online
Are these options all good ones? Most certainly not. Some are absolutely unusable and are no real step in the right direction. Some however, are quite popular and pretty good (iTunes, Netflix) alternatives to piracy.
Sure, the content "mafiaa" should abandon DRM and get with the program full force instead of pushing out more asinine half-hearted attempts like Vongo, but the fact remains that if there was no rampant piracy of content, digital download services either would be far far worse or would not even exist at all.
As for the statement of $58b in "piracy losses" per year, that's 100% pure bullshit. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to hopeflicker
People are buying laws so that they can send people (others) to prison 
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