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BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

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Re: U.S. economy loses $58 billion from piracy every year.

said by dodgetech2 See Profile :

Random number generator?
Surely you are not suggesting that priratng cost businesses NOTHING?


CoxCable4
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its logical to conclude that if they were losing vast amounts of money to piracy, they would do more then just give out a press release stating that we shouldn't pirate their shows.


hmmm

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when people with no money and no plans to buy the material take it, how would you value it? 58 billion?


Vertickle

join:2003-08-05
Madison, AL
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said by dodgetech2 See Profile :

Random number generator?
Surely you are not suggesting that priratng cost businesses NOTHING?
Surely you are not suggesting that pirating costs businesses $58,000,000,000?


Hangmn
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said by dodgetech2 See Profile :

Random number generator?
Surely you are not suggesting that priratng cost businesses NOTHING?
Who cares what it costs businesses. These idiots are in an arena where they are obviously out classed. If it can be done it will be done period. What about the money businesses are costing families? With no congressional oversite on health care..the sub prime mortgage screw ups, which buy the way the middle class will be bailing out and so on. F'k em I screw em every chance I get
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drdaleemille

join:2000-06-17
Norfolk, VA

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said by dodgetech2 See Profile :

Random number generator?
Surely you are not suggesting that priratng cost businesses NOTHING?
I have an M.A. in economics and I still need someone to explain to me what economic loss means in this context. Suppose that I pirate TV shows, and because I don't spend my money on cable I am able to make bigger car payments, so I buy a more expensive car. Or I am able to invest more, which gives businesses more capital. Has the national economy lost anything, or is it a wash? NBC may have lost, but does the U.S. lose?


TK Junk Mail
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Who cares what it costs businesses. These idiots are in an arena where they are obviously out classed. If it can be done it will be done period. F'k em I screw em every chance I get
Ah, the philosophy of every criminal that goes thru the criminal justice system. And people wonder why so many people are in prison in the US.
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TK Junk Mail
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October 4th, @10:17AM

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said by drdaleemille See Profile :

I have an M.A. in economics and I still need someone to explain to me what economic loss means in this context. Suppose that I pirate TV shows, and because I don't spend my money on cable I am able to make bigger car payments, so I buy a more expensive car. Or I am able to invest more, which gives businesses more capital. Has the national economy lost anything, or is it a wash? NBC may have lost, but does the U.S. lose?
You are making an assumption that the dollars spent elsewhere go to U.S. businesses and create U.S. jobs and wealth, which clearly isn't the case. Given the U.S. balance of trade, a big piece of your posited alternate spending goes overseas. While the entertainment industry (most hurt by piracy) is still an industry dominated by US companies and workers. So yes, piracy does hurt the U.S.
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st7860

join:2004-05-13
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said by dodgetech2 See Profile :

Random number generator?
Surely you are not suggesting that priratng cost businesses NOTHING?
Who cares what it costs businesses. These idiots are in an arena where they are obviously out classed. If it can be done it will be done period. What about the money businesses are costing families? With no congressional oversite on health care..the sub prime mortgage screw ups, which buy the way the middle class will be bailing out and so on. F'k em I screw em every chance I get
I couldn't agree with you more.


elios

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October 4th, @10:22AM

reply to TK Junk Mail
the US entertainment industry hasnt made any thing worth my money in a long time well aside from House but every thing else is crap

id pay good money for the REAL BBC, Sky, NHK and the like in the US

edit and only i download House becouse i work nights so i miss it when its on and i want to watch it HD and my PCs monitor is much better then my TV


John Galt
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Ah, the philosophy of every criminal that goes thru the criminal justice system. And people wonder why so many people are in prison in the US.

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Hangmn
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said by Hangmn See Profile :

Who cares what it costs businesses. These idiots are in an arena where they are obviously out classed. If it can be done it will be done period. F'k em I screw em every chance I get
Ah, the philosophy of every criminal that goes thru the criminal justice system. And people wonder why so many people are in prison in the US.
So should we effect change..or just take it?
The Revolutionary Army was "criminal"...until they won.
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Hangmn
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said by Hangmn See Profile :

Who cares what it costs businesses. These idiots are in an arena where they are obviously out classed. If it can be done it will be done period. F'k em I screw em every chance I get
Ah, the philosophy of every criminal that goes thru the criminal justice system. And people wonder why so many people are in prison in the US.
So many people are in prison in the US because the Laws are out of control, and the legislatures are bought and sold every day...
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drdaleemille

join:2000-06-17
Norfolk, VA

reply to TK Junk Mail
One of two things happens to the money that we spend overseas. One is that it comes back to us in some form, if not via other countries buying U.S. exports then via foreign investments (including purchases of government bonds, i.e., the budget deficit). The other is that it doesn't come back. If it doesn't come back, then that effectively means that other countries are sending us their wealth for free, which is a huge gain for the national economy.


hopeflicker
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, and the legislatures are bought and sold every day...
And that there is the main reason. Buying laws should send people to prison.
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yabos

join:2003-02-16
Ingersoll, ON
reply to TK Junk Mail
Yeah, it's because you can go to jail for having a roach in your ash tray.

BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

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said by BF69 See Profile :

said by dodgetech2 See Profile :

Random number generator?
Surely you are not suggesting that priratng cost businesses NOTHING?
I have an M.A. in economics and I still need someone to explain to me what economic loss means in this context. Suppose that I pirate TV shows, and because I don't spend my money on cable I am able to make bigger car payments, so I buy a more expensive car. Or I am able to invest more, which gives businesses more capital. Has the national economy lost anything, or is it a wash? NBC may have lost, but does the U.S. lose?
One would assume if you are so cheap to pirate something you fail to pay for other things too. And face it you're too cheap or porr to have amore expensive car. See I have a M.A in REALITY, not on economic theories base on fanciful hypothetical situations. Down the line SOMEONE pays for all that pirating and it's probably me. So yeah color me ticked off.

BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to Hangmn
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said by BF69 See Profile :

said by dodgetech2 See Profile :

Random number generator?
Surely you are not suggesting that priratng cost businesses NOTHING?
Who cares what it costs businesses. These idiots are in an arena where they are obviously out classed. If it can be done it will be done period. What about the money businesses are costing families? With no congressional oversite on health care..the sub prime mortgage screw ups, which buy the way the middle class will be bailing out and so on. F'k em I screw em every chance I get
So you're the "cut your nose to spite you face" kind of guy huh? Yes screw big business which only provide the JOBS that provide Americans with the moeny they need to live. Real fricken smart. I am assuming you know what a JOB is.

BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to Hangmn
Re: U.S. economy loses $58 billion from piracy every year.

said by Hangmn See Profile :

said by TK Junk Mail See Profile :

said by Hangmn See Profile :

Who cares what it costs businesses. These idiots are in an arena where they are obviously out classed. If it can be done it will be done period. F'k em I screw em every chance I get
Ah, the philosophy of every criminal that goes thru the criminal justice system. And people wonder why so many people are in prison in the US.
So should we effect change..or just take it?
The Revolutionary Army was "criminal"...until they won.
Yes and what change are you effecting by pirating? I'm 100% sure that when people enjoying their pirated versions of movies and music that are doing it for the "greater good" and are thinking about their contribution to your so called "revolution" and not doing it for their own selfish desires.
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