Gruesome
join:2007-10-18
Milton, ON
 ·Cogeco Cable
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
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Re: U.S. economy loses $58 billion from piracy every year.
said by TKJunkMail  :said by Hangmn :Who cares what it costs businesses. These idiots are in an arena where they are obviously out classed. If it can be done it will be done period. F'k em I screw em every chance I get Ah, the philosophy of every criminal that goes thru the criminal justice system. And people wonder why so many people are in prison in the US. If more bankers were in Jail I might agree |
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NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
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said by BF69 :Yes and what change are you effecting by pirating? Ah, there is the rub. I don't trade in pirated **AA content. If it isn't worth paying to see it, it isn't worth seeing at all.
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TScheisskopf
World News Trust
join:2005-02-13
Belvidere, NJ
 ·Sprint Broadband D..
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said by TKJunkMail :said by Hangmn :Who cares what it costs businesses. These idiots are in an arena where they are obviously out classed. If it can be done it will be done period. F'k em I screw em every chance I get Ah, the philosophy of every criminal that goes thru the criminal justice system. And people wonder why so many people are in prison in the US. Because incarceration is big business and big profits? |
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russotto
join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA
| reply to Bas
said by Bas :
The problem with your little theory is that in most suburban areas next to a MAJOR CITY a 1200 square foot house on a postage stamp sized lawn costs $250,000.00. So where do you suppose people should live, a cardboard box?
Plenty of larger and cheaper places are available, in places like North Philadelphia, Camden, East St. Louis, Anacostia, etc.... |
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Bas
@comcast.net
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bear73
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said by superdog :said by Draxsr :
The sub-prime "screw up's" aren't a government problem. It's a greed problem. The people in this country have issues with living within their means. No one forces one to sign a mortgage without giving it your own due diligance. Opting for an absurd, adjustable rate rests solely on the moron signing the paperwork. And I'd love to meet the moron who signs up for an 'interest only' mortgage where their payments pay ONLY the interest and nothing on the principle. It's what happens when someone making 30K/year thinks they need to live in a 300K house. It's sad and those morons do not deserve to be bailed out by the taxes others, who know how to live within their means, shell out. IMHO, YMMV.
That is a perfect statement, and one I wish I made myself.  The problem with your little theory is that in most suburban areas next to a MAJOR CITY a 1200 square foot house on a postage stamp sized lawn costs $250,000.00. So where do you suppose people should live, a cardboard box? |
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justaguy
@lmco.com | reply to John Galt
Your screen name is amazingly appropriate |
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superdog
I Need A Drink
Premium,MVM
join:2001-07-13
Lebanon, PA
| reply to Draxsr
said by Draxsr :
The sub-prime "screw up's" aren't a government problem. It's a greed problem. The people in this country have issues with living within their means. No one forces one to sign a mortgage without giving it your own due diligance. Opting for an absurd, adjustable rate rests solely on the moron signing the paperwork. And I'd love to meet the moron who signs up for an 'interest only' mortgage where their payments pay ONLY the interest and nothing on the principle. It's what happens when someone making 30K/year thinks they need to live in a 300K house. It's sad and those morons do not deserve to be bailed out by the taxes others, who know how to live within their means, shell out. IMHO, YMMV.
That is a perfect statement, and one I wish I made myself.
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Draxsr
@pa.us
from:
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roc5955
Bogden
bear73
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The sub-prime "screw up's" aren't a government problem. It's a greed problem. The people in this country have issues with living within their means. No one forces one to sign a mortgage without giving it your own due diligance. Opting for an absurd, adjustable rate rests solely on the moron signing the paperwork. And I'd love to meet the moron who signs up for an 'interest only' mortgage where their payments pay ONLY the interest and nothing on the principle. It's what happens when someone making 30K/year thinks they need to live in a 300K house. It's sad and those morons do not deserve to be bailed out by the taxes others, who know how to live within their means, shell out. IMHO, YMMV. |
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justin147
join:2006-02-28
Centerville, UT
| reply to TKJunkMail
said by TKJunkMail :said by Hangmn :Who cares what it costs businesses. These idiots are in an arena where they are obviously out classed. If it can be done it will be done period. F'k em I screw em every chance I get Ah, the philosophy of every criminal that goes thru the criminal justice system. And people wonder why so many people are in prison in the US. NO, NO, NO, people are not that stupid. Most educated people don't wonder, but rather lament the fact so many people are in prison in the US. The vast majority of U.S. prisoners are non violent offenders. You Wana lock someone up now and force me to pay my taxes to in-prison a broke college student who likes to listen to music and shares his collection with other like minded students? Get Real. |
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Yauch
join:2005-06-24 | reply to TScheisskopf
I'd vote for it, lets do it. |
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ieolus
Support The Clecs
join:2001-06-19
Duluth, GA | reply to BF69
Small businesses create the jobs that provide Americans with the money they need to live. Big businesses just fuck that up.
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TScheisskopf
World News Trust
join:2005-02-13
Belvidere, NJ
·Sprint Broadband D..
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HEY KARL!!! Kaaarrrrlll!!!
Please, can we have a demerit system in these threads about the RIAA? One that automatically hits any poster that brings up the specious equivalency between pirated anything and child porn, child rape, child molestation and child auto seats with a negative score?
God weeps and a kitty dies every time this half-a**ed argument is put forth. |
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yabos
join:2003-02-16
Ingersoll, ON
| reply to BF69
Yeah it's illegal and I won't argue about whether it should be or not but it'd really dumb they would throw someone in jail for such a small amount when the person isn't hurting anything. If they have 10lbs in their trunk then throw the book at them but when the person isn't hurting anyone except perhaps themselves it's not a good thing to throw someone in jail for that.
I don't live in the States but I do watch Cops and they arrest people for things like that. They say "oh it's not a big deal but we're arresting you.." |
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ph03n1x
join:2003-02-15
Sanford, FL
| reply to BF69
Yeah right laws against child molestation. What a fucking joke those laws have been made into lately. People that do that should be put down like rabid dogs, but these days we have people in jail for longer for copying DVDs or possessing a little bit of weed. Child rapists are constantly being let out of jail early or given light sentences. Disgusting. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to hopeflicker
People are buying laws so that they can send people (others) to prison 
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vzw emp
@qwest.net | reply to BF69
Move to Denver. If the cops find an ounce or less it's legal. |
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ph03n1x
join:2003-02-15
Sanford, FL
| reply to BF69
The rampant piracy of content, while it has caused a bunch of bullshit spin and lawsuits has also led to the creation of:
iTunes
Yahoo Music
Real Rhapsody
eMusic
Napster (legal version)
MTV Urge
Zune
Movielink
CinemaNow
BitTorrent Store (legal version)
Vongo
Amazon UnBox
Netflix
Blockbuster Online
Are these options all good ones? Most certainly not. Some are absolutely unusable and are no real step in the right direction. Some however, are quite popular and pretty good (iTunes, Netflix) alternatives to piracy.
Sure, the content "mafiaa" should abandon DRM and get with the program full force instead of pushing out more asinine half-hearted attempts like Vongo, but the fact remains that if there was no rampant piracy of content, digital download services either would be far far worse or would not even exist at all.
As for the statement of $58b in "piracy losses" per year, that's 100% pure bullshit. |
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bmn
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
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said by TKJunkMail :Ah, the philosophy of every criminal that goes thru the criminal justice system. And people wonder why so many people are in prison in the US. (bolding mine)
Call us when you actually have some data to back that supposed theory you have outlined here since, as the facts would stand, it is wrong.
Maybe we should start locking people up who state things as fact without data to back it up... Hmmm.
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bmn
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
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said by BF69 :First of all pot is ILLEGAL. Which does not make it wrong, only illegal.
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bmn
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus | reply to BF69
You were doing so well until you threw "drug dealing" into the mix... |
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