Re: Torrent or p2p speed test needed in Site Feature Requests

Re: Torrent or p2p speed test needed in Site Feature Requests http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19206561 en Sun, 23 Nov 2008 12:06:21 EDT Sun, 23 Nov 2008 12:06:21 EDT Re: Torrent or p2p speed test needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20139374 FiL : Sign... good way to spot caps and shit. Just don't get into any hot water ala wikileaks, Jus...

be safe, and signed. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20139374 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:26:49 EDT Re: Torrent or p2p speed test needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20138497 sansri88 : Sign.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20138497 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:40:38 EDT Re: Torrent or p2p speed test needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20133647 La Luna :

said by braynes

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*object*

That would be of interest to a small group and a waste of the "mods" time

Bruce

What do the "mods" have to do with it? It would be (as I understand it) a user tool, no mods needed.

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That would be of interest to a small group and a waste of the "mods" time

Bruce]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20132299 Sat, 08 Mar 2008 18:05:01 EDT Re: Torrent or p2p speed test needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20130250 horsemouth : sign]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20130250 Sat, 08 Mar 2008 10:21:06 EDT Re: Torrent or p2p speed test needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20119560 Digital : *SIGN!*

I think this would help a lot of people out when looking for a prospective ISP. Not to mention it may make ISPs become a little more honest when it comes to their procedures. (*ahem* Comcast?)
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said by Doctor Four

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Tentative *sign*

Not sure how well it would work, since real world torrent/p2p
speeds are going to be based on how fast others can upload
to you. About all this could do would be to detect ISP
throttling/packet shaping.

It could also determine how many simultaneous connections your router is capable of supporting.

Anything higher than 100 or 200 connections will choke most home broadband routers. This might help convince the little kid in his parent's basement to set it to a reasonable amount, which would help alleviate some of the perceived problem with BitTorrent.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20106389 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:35:00 EDT Re: Torrent or p2p speed test needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20104805 AquaBlaze : I'd sign. I can't see needing this myself on my connection, but I could very well see it being a handy tool to others.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20104805 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 06:26:47 EDT Re: Torrent or p2p speed test needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20103624 Doctor Four : Tentative *sign*

Not sure how well it would work, since real world torrent/p2p
speeds are going to be based on how fast others can upload
to you. About all this could do would be to detect ISP
throttling/packet shaping.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20103624 Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:40:10 EDT Re: Torrent or p2p speed test needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20101304 Jerm : this is a great idea

however, Torrents, by very definition of P2P will vary a lot and thus I'm not sure how this would actually be implemented]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20101304 Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:23:33 EDT Re: Torrent or p2p speed test needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20100451 djdanska : **sign**
This would be interesting to see how it could be implemented.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20100451 Mon, 03 Mar 2008 13:59:54 EDT Re: Torrent or p2p speed test needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20099560 Matt : I think this is a good idea and would be another first for BBR, much like all the Tools were back in the day.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20099560 Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:25:54 EDT Re: Torrent or p2p speed test needed - I can get 900KB ! down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20064341 Cop : *sign]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20064341 Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:21:56 EDT Re: Torrent or p2p speed test needed - I can get 900KB ! down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19774929 damoncarr : This is a good point as I have been tweaking away at many settings.

For example, I have found that the QoS settings on my Linksys (with DD-WRT) can have a major impact, but in very non-intuitive ways (although now I get it).

OpenWRT builds as well as the other variants should work as well I believe if they have a solid QoS implementation.

I have only ever used DD-WRT (and only for torrents used V24 RC5) which I have added a large SAMBA share to, as well as tweaked some settings).

Basically here is what I did to get 900KB+ download speed (for the best torrents anyway).

1) Added the ports used for bittorrent (I would manually do this at the port level, so as not to use any higher level sniffer). Also, I recommend choosing new ports.

2) Ensure they are set to 'bulk' the lowest QoS ranking (I think this has to do with reducing latency over increasing overall performance, which seems to be a key determinant).

3) As for download, try the normal 80% of what is measured using the standard tests here.

4) Make sure you have a monitoring tool in your bittorrent client which allows you to see the upload and download performance. The trick is to tweak these settings until your QoS is capping the upload speed (this can be quite low actually, which is fine. We are trying to optimize download here. For seeding, a similar approach can be used).

5) Once you have a straight consistent stream for uploads (assume 10K) which does not waiver, you are setup to unleash the download side (NOTE: this all works for me, and sorry I have no idea if it is a general approach. I have roadrunner cable in NYC, 9000KBit up and 450 Kbit down).

6) If you are using Windows XP SP2 you will almost certainly have to modify the tcpip.sys driver to hack the 10 'half' connection limit. This was done for viruses and to keep them from spreading. However it really screws you on downloads.

Here is a reliable (DO AT YOUR OWN RISK HOWEVER!) utility to do this for you:

»www.lvllord.de/

This has been widely used, and in spite of incorrect virus reporting, it appears to be harmless.

7) Ensure you have enough connections per torrent download. I recommend 99 connections per torrent with a global max of perhaps 99 (so you are focusing downloads 1 at a time).

This also means of course you only allow 1 torrent download to ever be active at once.

I also use BitTyrant which has tweaks to favor the downloader. It's controversial, but so is the entire concept of enticements as they currently exist in the protocol.

If interested I can send some interesting studies that go way deeper on this.

REMEMBER: You are only really ever as fast as your torrent is healthy.

HINT: While testing find the best tracker you possibly can to eliminate this variable. Always use the same one for your tweaks.

This could go on and on. The topic is deep and fun (to me at least).

Also, there are many XP registry tweaks to consider, but I have probably said enough for now and if there is interest (or a seperate area for 'torrent performance') that might be more relevant.

Thanks,
Damon Carr, CTO
agilefactor
professional software engineer
part-time hack

1) Played with DECREASING my QoS for Downloads ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19774929 Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:40:55 EDT Re: Torrent or p2p speed test needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19740387 punker : you can try »distribution.openoffice.org/p2p/

should max your speed with no issuse

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19740387 Fri, 04 Jan 2008 20:12:49 EDT Re: Torrent or p2p speed test needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19512184 punker :

said by exocet_cm

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Not sure how this would work since it is peer-to-peer and not server based content to a host.

One day you might get a great speed from user "x" but the next day user "x" is upload a lot of data and your speed from user "x" would decrease...

i know how it can be done

but i do not know if justin would want to do it]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19512184 Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:07:08 EDT Re: Torrent or p2p speed test needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19410837 mromero : *sign*]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19410837 Fri, 09 Nov 2007 06:28:37 EDT Re: Torrent or p2p speed test needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19406383 Alcohol : *sign* ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19406383 Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:48:47 EDT Re: Torrent or p2p speed test needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19402238 dot_null : *sign*

Sounds pretty neat. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19402238 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:29:51 EDT Re: Torrent or p2p speed test needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19347325 ztmike : Hell, ill -sign- just to see how this would turn out..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19347325 Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:21:41 EDT Re: Torrent or p2p speed test needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19339973 Jovi :

said by TD Nickell

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~sign~Could be a very useful tool for many. :)

I agree ~sign~
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»azureuswiki.com/index.php/Speed_Test_FAQ
maybe something like that could be implemented here at DSLR.
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One day you might get a great speed from user "x" but the next day user "x" is upload a lot of data and your speed from user "x" would decrease...
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Clarifying a little.. I imagine that your first thoughts of a p2p speed test are different than mine. I'll share a little more so you can further disagree or agree.

If ISP "A" sees he's rated bottom of the heap in the p2p category.. and realizes that ALL his market can see that as well, through publicly available information, he might think he can get a few more customers from ISP "B" by offering a p2p enabled product offering at a profitable price.

Regarding the p2p speed test implementation..
Imagining again.. a Java app that uses p2p protocols to download from 40 or 50 sites that currently host existing speed tests.. and posts results at a popular place.. like Broadband.com. It could be possible. Alternatively, the swarm could be free and self sustaining or a combo of fixed and free peers.

Again, big thanks to those whose hard work makes this place possible!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19210804 Sun, 07 Oct 2007 04:21:55 EDT Re: Torrent or p2p speed test needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19207752 TD Nickell : ~sign~Could be a very useful tool for many. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19207752 Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:27:35 EDT Re: Torrent or p2p speed test needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19206561 ztmike : Where would you get the speed from a p2p or torrent? I highly doubt people are just going to leave their torrent programs open to have someone test their speed, and even if you did, theres not enough speed for a true test.

Or im i confused here?
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said by C_ :

said by justin :

said by C_ :

*object*

because?

i have no use for it :uhh:. powerboost makes speed tests worthless

Then don't use it. Problem solved.

*Sign* I like the idea.
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said by justin :

said by C_ :

*object*

because?

i have no use for it :uhh:. powerboost makes speed tests worthless
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said by C_ :

*object*

because?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19200966 Fri, 05 Oct 2007 10:24:50 EDT Re: Torrent or p2p speed test needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19199606 C_ : *object* ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19199606 Fri, 05 Oct 2007 00:44:53 EDT Re: Torrent or p2p speed test needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19182045 fatness : * sign *]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19182045 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 08:40:27 EDT Re: Torrent or p2p speed test needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19180653 Rob A : --object--]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19180653 Mon, 01 Oct 2007 22:59:24 EDT Re: Torrent or p2p speed test needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19177372 justin : Yeah it has been on my mind for a while. Something that pretends to be p2p, or voip, would be an interesting comparison to regular web upload and download speed tests. It would uncover secret throttles in place.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19177372 Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:20:11 EDT Torrent or p2p speed test needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19176854 anon : Apologies in advance if this is the wrong forum for this..

ISPs are rated by their speed and service. Current speed tests supported by BroadbandReports make the speed metric accessible to consumers like me when shopping. I suggest a "peer-to-peer speed test" metric, if it became popular, might influence ISPs with respect to product offerings.

...assuming it's possible to overcome the port configuration hurdle.

BroadbandReports' speed tests service has huge effect in most markets around the world! Big thanks for all the hard work you guys have done in making this place great!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19176854 Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:53:14 EDT