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Hound7

join:2006-03-08
Princeton, NJ
reply to GeekGirl1

Re: New HD Just Anounced...CNL HD!!!

Big Ten Network HD (BTN) on Dish Network and Directv has a couple of live HD Camogie (Field Hockey) games every week.


CeeZee

join:2007-04-11
Wynnewood, PA
reply to JPL

Re: NHL Network not coming to FIOS?

said by JPL:

Right after we got our HDTV and FiOS set up, we had a party at our house - a small family gathering. I was showing my brother and my father-in-law what the TV could do. I put on a hockey game that was on in HD. They both said the same thing at the same time "wow, I can see the puck!" And because of the widescreen, you don't need to pan nearly as much.
As an avid hockey fan (yep, grew up in Minnesota), one of the things I was going to miss most from switching from D* I knew would be NHL Center Ice.

But I did pick up HDNet (wow!) and ComcastNetHD (for the local Flyers games). On the other hand, the Versus coverage is horrible and I'm not at all sure that the HD version would help it all that much. The days of watching multiple games a night is over. But I did add up all the games we're getting over the regular season and it comes to over 175. Would I like to get NHL Net, too –– you bet but 175+ games makes it not as bad as I thought it would be. (Or as they say in Minnesota, "it could be worse" )

I've now gotten so picky I even dislike watching the SD games (I think mainly from Canadian feeds) on ComcastNetHD.

And the games on HDNet are always spectacular.

guppy_fish
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join:2003-12-09
Lakeland, FL
kudos:3
Reviews:
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reply to pflog
said by pflog:

Why do you think it's just about "bragging rights"? Do you think we're all so shallow that we only care about the HD channels available to brag about it? Did it ever occur to you that we might actually, *GASP*, want to watch them? I watch a lot of SciFi channel and Discovery. What's so wrong with me wanting to watch the same shows in HD? Sheesh.
SciFi is my #1 channel and by the time FIOS get to my house in Lakeland, I'll take a bet SciFi HD will on on the line up. My point was that might take a year to get all the new channels online ... I've waited for ISDN, Then Cable now Fiber and I can wait a few months for the full line up without wining like a little girlie. Also Brighthouse doesn't have SciFi HD, just the comming soon on the channel lineup ...

As for what sports shows up, I would guess Verizon know quite well the cost benifit, hockey took a hole year off ( stike ) and not one network seemed to care ..


pflog
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join:2001-09-01
El Dorado Hills, CA
kudos:3
Who's whining like a girl? I just want to be able to watch HD content on my HD service. And Verizon seems to be the only TV provider that's way behind the game. I'm a paying customer, I have a right to complain about what I'm getting or not getting.
--
"The Dude abides."

justin9876

join:2006-04-21
Keller, TX
said by pflog:

And Verizon seems to be the only TV provider that's way behind the game.
The only provider behind? Try Charter Cable, they are in the Stone Age compared to FiOS.

Yes, you have the right to complain. Have you done so? To Verizon, I mean. Complaining here may make you feel a little better but it isn't going to affect Verizon's plan and schedule one bit.

FWIW, I have had FiOS TV for over two years now, love it, but sure do wish they would do 3 things: 1) Add some HD channels, even if they aren't ones I particularly care about, just show some direction, 2) Deliver some VOD HD, even if it is only one program, again, show some direction, and 3) Not deliver the new IMG to me, maybe even forever, I am perfectly happy with the old guide
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Sony KDL-V40XBR1

knarf829

join:2007-06-02
kudos:1
said by guppy_fish:

My point was that might take a year to get all the new channels online ... I've waited for ISDN, Then Cable now Fiber and I can wait a few months for the full line up without wining like a little girlie.
said by pflog:

Who's whining like a girl? I just want to be able to watch HD content on my HD service. And Verizon seems to be the only TV provider that's way behind the game. I'm a paying customer, I have a right to complain about what I'm getting or not getting.
said by justin9876:

Yes, you have the right to complain. Have you done so? To Verizon, I mean. Complaining here may make you feel a little better but it isn't going to affect Verizon's plan and schedule one bit.
Having the right to complain doesn't make the complaint any less girly. And pointing out that you have a right to complain may indeed make the complaining more whiny and girly.


pflog
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join:2001-09-01
El Dorado Hills, CA
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reply to justin9876
No I haven't, but you're right I should, and so should EVERYONE here. Have you? If not, you should, too
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"The Dude abides."

knarf829

join:2007-06-02
kudos:1
said by pflog:

No I haven't, but you're right I should, and so should EVERYONE here. Have you? If not, you should, too
I'm happy with the current HD Lineup.


pflog
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join:2001-09-01
El Dorado Hills, CA
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reply to knarf829
said by knarf829:

Having the right to complain doesn't make the complaint any less girly. And pointing out that you have a right to complain may indeed make the complaining more whiny and girly.
Ok, so I'm supposed to just sit here and be happy that Verizon can't provide the same channels that competitors can? Give me a break. Call it girly if you want, but what we're all asking for isn't unreasonable. If you don't want to complain and are happy with the HD channels available, fine. But there are plenty of us who think Verizon is majorly dropping the ball on HD content.
--
"The Dude abides."


pflog
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join:2001-09-01
El Dorado Hills, CA
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reply to knarf829
said by knarf829:

said by pflog:

No I haven't, but you're right I should, and so should EVERYONE here. Have you? If not, you should, too
I'm happy with the current HD Lineup.
Well good for you. Many others are not. Just because you're happy with the available HD channels, doesn't mean everyone else is.
--
"The Dude abides."


Midak
Doctors suck
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join:2002-02-26
Yonkers, NY
reply to icemannyr1
Put me on the list of not happy about the lack of new HD content. It's one thing for the other guys to be getting all new channels but come on, available HD versions of the channels we already have??? How can you not expect that as a customer?

knarf829

join:2007-06-02
kudos:1
said by Midak:

Put me on the list of not happy about the lack of new HD content. It's one thing for the other guys to be getting all new channels but come on, available HD versions of the channels we already have??? How can you not expect that as a customer?
Yeah - I'm holding my breath and stamping my feet until we get I-Life HD.

knarf829

join:2007-06-02
kudos:1
reply to pflog
said by pflog:

said by knarf829:

said by pflog:

No I haven't, but you're right I should, and so should EVERYONE here. Have you? If not, you should, too
I'm happy with the current HD Lineup.
Well good for you. Many others are not. Just because you're happy with the available HD channels, doesn't mean everyone else is.
I'm happy and staying. What are you doing about the way you feel about it?


pflog
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join:2001-09-01
El Dorado Hills, CA
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said by knarf829:

I'm happy and staying. What are you doing about the way you feel about it?
I'm going to call and complain. Wow, I don't get how some people have to defend these big companies. I hope you have Verizon stock.
--
"The Dude abides."

knarf829

join:2007-06-02
kudos:1
said by pflog:

said by knarf829:

I'm happy and staying. What are you doing about the way you feel about it?
I'm going to call and complain. Wow, I don't get how some people have to defend these big companies. I hope you have Verizon stock.
If you think I'm a Verizon defender, you haven't been reading these boards enough.


pflog
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join:2001-09-01
El Dorado Hills, CA
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reply to knarf829
said by knarf829:

Yeah - I'm holding my breath and stamping my feet until we get I-Life HD.
Why do you "lack of HD" defenders keep bringing up these non-existent or obscure channels? Is it so wrong to want the MAINSTREAM channels? SciFi HD, A&E HD, Discovery HD, etc?
--
"The Dude abides."

knarf829

join:2007-06-02
kudos:1
said by pflog:

said by knarf829:

Yeah - I'm holding my breath and stamping my feet until we get I-Life HD.
Why do you "lack of HD" defenders keep bringing up these non-existent or obscure channels? Is it so wrong to want the MAINSTREAM channels? SciFi HD, A&E HD, Discovery HD, etc?
They're available. Go get 'em champ.


pflog
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join:2001-09-01
El Dorado Hills, CA
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reply to Midak
said by Midak:

Put me on the list of not happy about the lack of new HD content. It's one thing for the other guys to be getting all new channels but come on, available HD versions of the channels we already have??? How can you not expect that as a customer?
I'm not sure what the best phone number to contact is, but we should probably try to get the folks who feel strongly about this to all call in. Or do one of those silly petition online things (though I doubt those are really worthwhile, heh).

Does anyone know the best number or group to call? I wouldn't necessary say calling retention is the right thing. Let me clarify here - I AM happy with my FiOS TV. The bang for the buck is there, and the PQ is great. I just think it needs more HD channels - nothing wrong with wanting it to be the best product it can be.

So I'm not going to call and threaten to leave, that's unrealistic. However, I think they need to hear the voices out there who want more HD content - though, honestly, they must know. Hopefully they have a plan and just aren't making it visible to the end customer.
--
"The Dude abides."


JeepMatt
C'mon the U
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join:2001-12-28
Wilmington, DE
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Deblin-
Keep posting here. Believe me, they read these boards.
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knarf829

join:2007-06-02
kudos:1
said by JeepMatt:

Deblin-
Keep posting here. Believe me, they read these boards.
True. Verizon, there's a silent majority among your 500,000 customers who are perfectly content with the HD lineup you have right now. Focus on reliability, not on chasing flashy numbers of niche channels.


pflog
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join:2001-09-01
El Dorado Hills, CA
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reply to JeepMatt
said by JeepMatt:

Deblin-
Keep posting here. Believe me, they read these boards.
Cool deal.
--
"The Dude abides."


pflog
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join:2001-09-01
El Dorado Hills, CA
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reply to knarf829
said by knarf829:

True. Verizon, there's a silent majority among your 500,000 customers who are perfectly content with the HD lineup you have right now. Focus on reliability, not on chasing flashy numbers of niche channels.
I didn't know reliability was a problem, seriously. My service (granted it's only been 2 months) has been spectacular. A few minor artifacts on some channels on occasion, but otherwise flawless. If you're speaking of the IMG software, I can't comment as I have a S3 Tivo, but I do see quite a few complaints about that.

In terms of priorities, I 100% agree that service quality/reliability and IMG stability should be #1 priority. And if that's the reason the additional HD channels are (hopefully delayed) not here, I am ok with that. But then they're doing things like adding the "gaming" thing - shouldn't they be fixing the IMG stuff before doing that? I'd argue they should add more HD before the gaming stuff, but I guess the total available HD market is probably a smaller portion of the customers than those that might subscribe/use the gaming feature.
--
"The Dude abides."

Mark F1

join:2007-08-01
Fort Wayne, IN
reply to JPL
Fort Wayne is home to the country's oldest minor league hockey team, the Fort Wayne Komets. I'm not a hockey fan, but I've seen them play and following the action isn't easy. I've heard about tests for a glowing puck or one fitted with electronics. None seem to have worked out. Maybe the action is easier to follow in Hi Def, but hockey still is not as popular as many other sports. Having the NHL network doesn't bother me, FIOS claims to offer something for everyone. But, I can't see them adding that ahead of more popular offerings. Within the next 12-18 months, I predict that lots of HD channels will come along. We've decided to replace our living room TV with a HD set, perhaps around Christmas (to take advantage of big sales), and the family room set will be replaced some time after that- but before the local channels have to shut down their analog transmissions in 2009. So, HD is important, just as debugging the guide and increasing it's reliability and searchability is important. But, folks just need to be patient. Nothing I've experienced, or read on here, has made me forget that the plusses of FIOS TV outweigh the minuses. Mark F.

Mark F1

join:2007-08-01
Fort Wayne, IN
reply to pflog
No Gingerbread Channel for you!. When we first got cable in 1981, "I want my MTV" was a popular slogan. I guess "I want my HD! Now!" is the new battlecry. We all want improvements, I'm just biding my time. Mark F.


pflog
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El Dorado Hills, CA
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Maybe Weird Al will write it =)
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SD6

join:2005-03-26
reply to Mark F1
said by Mark F1:

Within the next 12-18 months, I predict that lots of HD channels will come along. We've decided to replace our living room TV with a HD set, perhaps around Christmas (to take advantage of big sales), and the family room set will be replaced some time after that- but before the local channels have to shut down their analog transmissions in 2009. So, HD is important, just as debugging the guide and increasing it's reliability and searchability is important. But, folks just need to be patient. Nothing I've experienced, or read on here, has made me forget that the plusses of FIOS TV outweigh the minuses. Mark F.
I've got 3 HD sets. If Verizon hasn't added HD channels and HD VOD by the time my contract expires in 10 months, I may be looking elsewhere.

Let's not forget that they advertised fiber capacity and HD as an advantage of FIOS TV, and they haven't delivered on it yet. I'm merely judging them by the standard that they themselves asked to be judged by.

mark_h_in_NC

join:2007-07-22
Monroe, NC
reply to icemannyr1
How about just adding the SD version of the NHL Network?

SOMETHING is better than NOTHING.

And continued NOTHING will drive current customers away, and keep potential ones away too.

Heck, I'm still looking for NASA TV on FIOS. :/

Mezzerah

join:2007-10-11
Camarillo, CA
reply to robjlevin
said by robjlevin:

The problem with hockey is that there aren't enough fans for VZ to care about. But hockey in HD is an amazing thing to see. The argument about not being able to follow the puck (which is bogus anyway) is totally thrown out the door.
Because of Verizon not supporting Center Ice, I had to resort to buying the Online version @ NHL.TV for $149.99and I had to buy MLB. TV online over the summer. Last year I had Time Warner and Watching Hockey on TV is much better You do not have to deal with the online streaming, and buffering issues. SO I say good going Verizon!!! Once again another company will be getting my hard earned cash because this Company rather cater to 85 % crappy channels that no one cares about.

Mark F1

join:2007-08-01
Fort Wayne, IN
Hockey on TV leaves me cold. Now a channel of women's beach volleyball would stir the coals a bit, or, if you're in the right mood, heat things up. Better not be any thin ice, though. Mark F.

bnceo

join:2007-10-11
Bel Air, MD
reply to icemannyr1
I would love to see the NHL network on Fios along with NBA TV. But apparently, those channels are getting into exclusive deals with cable providers. Whatever. Fios is a fairly new service. Give them time. They still have to produce a large enough potential customer base for any of the channels to take it super seriously. Just enjoy the reliability of it.