CrazyFingers
join:2003-10-01
Columbia, MO
| reply to pnh102
Re: Punish the Snitchers
Or when it was determined that their actions were...you know...
Illegal.
I think you'll agree that this is the main problem in America today, we have all these "laws" that just get in the way of law enforcement. If only we could remove all these so-called "laws" that provide "protection" to our citizen's "civil rights", it would be so much easier to protect the people of the United States. After all, America was founded on the ideals of "complete safety from any bad thing", and if you read your constitution, you'll see that your personal safety is guaranteed 100% of the time under every possible circumstance. I still don't understand where all these smelly hippies get this whacko idea that they have "rights", I've looked all over the constitution and I don't see that anywhere.
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qworster
join:2001-11-25
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4 edits | Uhm HELLO??? McFly???
I see that you support the police state, where our freedoms are flushed down the toilet for 'convenience'. Despite the bu**shit you've been told (and you apparently took-hook, line and sinker!), this has nothing to do with fighting terrorism! There are plenty of ways for law enforcement to get whatever they want or need. This is simply a way for them to be able to do "fishing expeditions". See, to keep the govt. from infringing on the rights of its citizens, there are safeguards in place to protect us. Law enforcement needs to go to court and convince a judge that any intrusion into the private life of its law abiding citizens is outweighed by the public benefits of doing so. It's not a complicted thing to do, but it IS an important check. This system has served us well through the centuries, including MANY wars! Now, you and your ilk seem Hell bent on flushing our protected rights and freedoms down the toilet! Maybe you are so paranoid that you need the govt. to 'protect' you, but unlike you, I believe that the average citizen needs protection from govt. intrusions more then we need protection from terrorists.
See, the way our political system works best is when the citizens have a healthy DISTRUST of the govt. WE are the fourth branch of the government-it's up to us the citizens to keep corruption in check! Your way of blind: "yup, yup, yup" obediance puts us on a slippery slope towards fascism!
Look, if you're SO concerned about your "personal safety" then get your state and city to put more cops on the streets of our cities and towns. You're MUCH MORE LIKELY to be injured or killed by a robber, gang member or drunk driver then a terrorist. Police walking the beat in our neighborhoods are FAR MORE EFFECTIVE in preventing crime then some big computer bugging all our phone calls and emails is! |
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disc
join:2005-12-31
Raleigh, NC
| reply to CrazyFingers
Re: Punish the Snitchers
Maybe, but if you start from the premise that terrorists hate us for our freedoms - the inverse must also be true, the terrorists love us for our laws. Obviously our founding fathers couldn't anticipate this, but fortunately our fearless leaders have recognized that by dispensing with some laws, they're removing the succor and solace they provide to the terrorists. I can only imagine how much this has put the terrorists into a shambles. Even more so since by dispensing with some laws, the Bush administration is in essence increasing freedoms, thereby taunting the terrorists with the very thing they hate. The nation terrorized becomes the provocatuer - take that you terrorists! |
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CrazyFingers
join:2003-10-01
Columbia, MO
| reply to qworster
Re: Uhm HELLO??? McFly???
Settle down there sparky.
Take a deep breath.
Now, click here: »dictionary.reference.com/browse/sarcasm
Now, go back and read it again.
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| reply to CrazyFingers
Re: Punish the Snitchers
I agree. We should protect you from everyone and yourself too.
So effective immediatly, we're going to lock you up in a small room with no windows or connection to the outside world. We'll hold you there forever. You'll be safe and protected never have to worry about being harmed by anyone ever again!
Enjoy!
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tc1uscg
join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI | reply to qworster
Re: Uhm HELLO??? McFly???
He was poking fun at it all.. I got it.. so calm down and don't forget to pass..  "puff puff pass" you know.. |
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qworster
join:2001-11-25
Los Angeles, CA | Gotcha!
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chuckkk
join:2001-11-10
Warner Robins, GA
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| reply to CrazyFingers
Re: Punish the Snitchers
On the contrary, history shows that the US government and many others for that matter, chafe under the various laws that actually protect citizens from unwarranted intrusion into private matters and affairs.
At one time, during the cold war, mainly before satellites carried most overseas calls, EVERY overseas phone call was recorded/monitored. This became increasingly impossible (using then existing methods) when the satellites came on line and the number of calls increased by orders of magnitude. (~ 1980)
The government prefers to interpret laws and constitutional rights in favor of the government, rather than the citizen.
After all, such things complicate the ability to "govern".
I spent several years in Germany in the late 70's. The older germans had an almost slavish response/relationship with the government. Perhaps as a result of surviving both the imperial and nazi governments of the past.
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