carcus
@cox.net
| [CA] Packet Shaping, San Diego
Just recently I've noticed quite a change in traffic on my Cox internet connection. I have the "Preferred" service advertised as ↓7Mbps down and ↑512Kbps up. I suspect packet shaping of BitTorrent/p2p traffic. There is no change on the downloading, only when seeding (uploading) do I notice any difference. I am properly port forwarded with a static IP. I know it is not all traffic because I also have http and ssh servers on the network which respond well to wGETs, cURLs and scp's. I know this is not the typically allowed of residential service but I didn't realize that it would lead to shaping of packets of only one service. Does anyone else notice a similar change suddenly? Is my only choice to move to business grade or DSL? Thanks in advance. |
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Ikyuao
Pro. debian Linux
join:2007-02-26
Wichita, KS
 ·Cox HSI
| said by carcus :
Just recently I've noticed quite a change in traffic on my Cox internet connection. I have the "Preferred" service advertised as ↓7Mbps down and ↑512Kbps up. I suspect packet shaping of BitTorrent/p2p traffic. There is no change on the downloading, only when seeding (uploading) do I notice any difference. I am properly port forwarded with a static IP. I know it is not all traffic because I also have http and ssh servers on the network which respond well to wGETs, cURLs and scp's. I know this is not the typically allowed of residential service but I didn't realize that it would lead to shaping of packets of only one service. Does anyone else notice a similar change suddenly? Is my only choice to move to business grade or DSL? Thanks in advance.
Cox does not do packet shaping. |
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carcus
@cox.net
| said by Ikyuao  :said by carcus :
Just recently I've noticed quite a change in traffic on my Cox internet connection. I have the "Preferred" service advertised as ↓7Mbps down and ↑512Kbps up. I suspect packet shaping of BitTorrent/p2p traffic. There is no change on the downloading, only when seeding (uploading) do I notice any difference. I am properly port forwarded with a static IP. I know it is not all traffic because I also have http and ssh servers on the network which respond well to wGETs, cURLs and scp's. I know this is not the typically allowed of residential service but I didn't realize that it would lead to shaping of packets of only one service. Does anyone else notice a similar change suddenly? Is my only choice to move to business grade or DSL? Thanks in advance.
Cox does not do packet shaping. Ok, and I should just accept this as fact? What is your source? Do you work for cox? Because you are not packet shaped in your area means therefore I am not either, quite a slippery slope, my friend. |
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bmn
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus | reply to carcus
What router are you using ? Some routers bog down under the load of Bittorrent (seen it many times). |
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carcus
@cox.net
| said by bmn :What router are you using ? Some routers bog down under the load of Bittorrent (seen it many times).
I also tried a direct connection to the internet to no avail. The last option would be to rule out the modem. I guess I could give it a try. |
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cableguy619
join:2003-06-24
Chula Vista, CA
1 edit | reply to carcus
uhhh your bandwidth is being hogged up when you are uploading via ttorrents. Use your client by setting it to max upload to say 10 kb and 1 connection per or what not it will help out... |
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carcus
@cox.net
1 edit | said by cableguy619 :uhhh your bandwidth is being hogged up when you are uploading via ttorrents. Use your client by setting it to max upload to say 10 kb and 1 connection per or what not it will help out... uhhhh, I'm using QoS type program to shape my traffic using ack packet priority, look it up. |
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cableguy619
join:2003-06-24
Chula Vista, CA | reply to carcus
Re: [CA] Packet Shaping, San Diego
and you dont under stand how your bandwidth works |
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Fubar
join:2001-02-20
Phoenix, AZ
| reply to carcus
said by carcus :said by cableguy619 :uhhh your bandwidth is being hogged up when you are uploading via ttorrents. Use your client by setting it to max upload to say 10 kb and 1 connection per or what not it will help out... uhhhh, I'm using QoS type program to shape my traffic using ack packet priority, look it up. So your are falsifying packet headers? Maybe that is your problem.... |
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Ikyuao
Pro. debian Linux
join:2007-02-26
Wichita, KS | reply to carcus
Let me explain to you about Bittorrent and P2P programs of downloading is very slower than reliable HTTP downloading because peer clients are limiting their upload speeds... That is fact. |
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carcus
@cox.net
| reply to carcus
Ok, so I don't think that the last few of you have had a clue to what I have been talking about. Let alone being able to read my orginal post with some comprehension. I'm talking about Cox possibly using sandvine to send RST packets to both peers in the swarm to reset their connection.
Example, zero (0kb) of traffic up or down, peer connects, starts upload, connection reset.
Cableguy619, if you do indeed work for cox, like you said before your edit, You represent them poorly. Go back to your tier 1 support job, and leave this thread alone. Great vocabulary you have there too. Highly educated.
ACK packet priority does not forge headers:
»www.benzedrine.cx/ackpri.html |
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carcus
@cox.net
| reply to Ikyuao
said by Ikyuao :Let me explain to you about Bittorrent and P2P programs of downloading is very slower than reliable HTTP downloading because peer clients are limiting their upload speeds... That is fact. I am not talking about download speeds. Please re-read my OP. |
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Ikyuao
Pro. debian Linux
join:2007-02-26
Wichita, KS
·Cox HSI
| said by carcus :said by Ikyuao :Let me explain to you about Bittorrent and P2P programs of downloading is very slower than reliable HTTP downloading because peer clients are limiting their upload speeds... That is fact. I am not talking about download speeds. Please re-read my OP. Well, I don't have a problem with premier while using peer to peer program accessing internet so maybe you should move to premier either get a cox business service what you need... I don't see any packet shaping while using peer to peer program. Also cox does not guaranteed speed or latency. |
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cableguy619
join:2003-06-24
Chula Vista, CA
| reply to carcus
Not even close fool keep throwing your barbs, Tier 1?? Is that all you got? For god sake...My post was edit as well as yours by moderators.
If you want semetrical service with no ill effects go business.
I would go on, but obviously you want to keep with your dumb whitted comments. Plain and simple your service does not work the way you think it does. |
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Ikyuao
Pro. debian Linux
join:2007-02-26
Wichita, KS
·Cox HSI
| said by cableguy619 :Not even close fool keep throwing your barbs, Tier 1?? Is that all you got? For god sake...My post was edit as well as yours by moderators. If you want semetrical service with no ill effects go business. I would go on, but obviously you want to keep with your dumb whitted comments. Plain and simple your service does not work the way you think it does. Yeah, dude... If his service doesn't work for him then I would suggest him to move on upgrading to premier or get a cox business services either. And I don't have a any problems with using peer to peer program as bittorrent program. |
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carcus
@cox.net
| reply to carcus
Thanks for everyone's opinions, I'll give some of them a shot. I've tried this from a machine without packet priority on it and found the same results, so direct connection, nothing between me and the peers but a default ipfw setup. The main point of the post was the question I asked, which was, did anyone have the same results? Not hey everyone, pick apart my post/connection, I do agree I was a bit hasty with replies, but if you do not have a solid source or ground to stand on, it's pretty easy to deduce that you might not understand me or maybe know what you are talking about. Simply stating, "it doesn't work how you think it does" goes no where, please inform me how it works next time, school me. Lastly, I don't recall asking for a symmetrical connection, which Cox HSI doesn't even offer »www.coxbusiness.com/systems/ca_s···internet, I just want one that works when a peer is requesting something! Do I not pay for connectivity? Thanks everyone! |
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internet
@uk2net.com
| reply to carcus
cox does indeed seem to block seeding on bittorrent, however you may have some success enabling lazy bitfield if your client supports it. also, it seems they only block seeding when you have completed the download as i am able to upload while downloading just fine.
»www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Ba···_America
this table says cox does not block seeding, but if you look here they say cox does and that seems to be what i have experienced
»forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php···#p170765 |
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spanglo
Premium
join:2004-05-17
San Diego, CA | reply to carcus
I haven't noticed anything like that in long time. I used to see "strange" slow downs from time to time when using BT or Newsgroups, but I think it was more related to network congestion then anything else. I download quite a bit too. |
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carcus
@cox.net
| reply to internet
said by internet :cox does indeed seem to block seeding on bittorrent, however you may have some success enabling lazy bitfield if your client supports it. also, it seems they only block seeding when you have completed the download as i am able to upload while downloading just fine. » www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Ba···_Americathis table says cox does not block seeding, but if you look here they say cox does and that seems to be what i have experienced » forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php···#p170765 Are you on cox? Your @uk2net.com says otherwise. I've just swapped out my modem for a new one, I seem to be getting better results but the jury is still out on that one. I'm going to do some ethereal/wireshark investigating one of these days that I'm free. |
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