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jsinaiko
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join:2001-04-25
Chicago, IL
·AT&T Midwest

People Power

The outcry here, along with the many complaints about the censoring of Pearl Jam a few months ago had its effect.

Sometimes the good guys win.

A lot of people posted the point that the original TOS was not designed to get folks cut off for criticizing AT&T, but it was still a slippery slope - our society is on a lot of slippery slopes these days - this was not one of the important ones, but it doesn't hurt that they have changed the TOS to clarify things.

Now, if the feds would do the same thing about domestic spying...
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Illegitimati non carborundum


Noah Vail
Premium
join:2004-12-10
Lorton, VA
·RoadRunner Cable

Shell Game

However, AT&T may immediately terminate or suspend all or a portion of your Service, ... for conduct that AT&T believes (a) violates the Acceptable Use Policy; or ... a violation of these TOS, or any applicable policies or guidelines.

So an AT&T user can be kicked off for violating a non-disclosed guideline, instead of a revealed policy.

AT&T comes out of the closet the same way Larry Craig does.

NV
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The More Alike 2 Religions are, the Stronger the Hate between them.


S_engineer

join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
·Comcast

Whats missing.....

the fact that by agreeing to these terms you allow att to share (sell) your info with affiliated vendors (telemarket CSRs), as well as other relevent agencies (you know who).

Mybe Craig should have used the translation tools on that cool SBC rocket!
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Burn a tire, but make sure you buy that carbon offset!


NY Tel
Premium
join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
·VOIPo

reply to Noah Vail
said by Noah Vail See Profile :

However, AT&T may immediately terminate or suspend all or a portion of your Service, ... for conduct that AT&T believes (a) violates the Acceptable Use Policy; or ... a violation of these TOS, or any applicable policies or guidelines.

So an AT&T user can be kicked off for violating a non-disclosed guideline, instead of a revealed policy.

AT&T comes out of the closet the same way Larry Craig does.

NV
I understand that was just a "stall" tactic.....

openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
reply to S_engineer
That belongs under the "Privacy Policy", not the ToS.


BodyBumper

join:2004-06-21
Beverly Hills, CA


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reply to jsinaiko
Re: People Power

Its not over folks.

Under the "Acceptable Use Policy" (»www.att.net/legal/AUP/)

Failure to observe the guidelines set forth in this AUP may result in AT&T taking actions anywhere from a warning to a suspension of privileges or termination of your Service(s). When feasible, AT&T may provide you with notice of an AUP violation, via Email or otherwise, and demand that such violation be immediately corrected. AT&T reserves the right, however, to act immediately and without notice to suspend or terminate Service(s) in response to a court order or other legal requirement that certain conduct be stopped or when AT&T determines, in its sole discretion, that the conduct may (1) expose AT&T to sanctions, prosecution or civil action, (2) cause harm to or interfere with the integrity or normal operations of AT&T's network(s) or facilities, (3) materially or repeatedly interfere with another person's use of AT&T's Service(s) or the Internet (4) damage or disparage the reputation of AT&T or its Service(s), or (5) otherwise present a risk of harm to AT&T or AT&T's customers , employees, officers, directors, or agents.
then there is...

Illegal/Unauthorized Conduct

Prohibited activities include, but are not limited to:

* transmitting any defamatory, libelous, fraudulent, deceptive indecent, offensive or obscene materials;
* using the Service(s) to deliver spyware, secretly or deceptively obtain the personal information of third parties (phishing, etc.), or engage in modem hi-jacking;
* using the service to impersonate another;
* spreading computer viruses;
* gaining unauthorized access to private networks;
* engaging in the transmission of pirated software;
* conducting or participating in illegal gambling or soliciting for illegal pyramid schemes;
* violating rules, regulations, and policies applicable to any network, server, computer database, web site, or ISP that you access through the Service(s);
* threatening, harassing, abusing, or intimidating others;
* creating or attempting to utilize a domain name that is defamatory, fraudulent, indecent, offensive, deceptive, threatening, abusive, harassing, or which damages the name or reputation of AT&T; or
* re-selling or providing Service(s) to unauthorized third parties, whether as part of a commercial enterprise or otherwise.
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"Time does not actually exist beyond an artificial measure we create in our minds to separate events we experience into blocks that are easier to reference instead of as a whole single event that just happens and continues happening" - evolvedant
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