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<description><![CDATA[benc posted : Thanks.<br><br>I forgot that the minimum wage increased from $5.15/hr.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 03:52:35 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[BF69 posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1464969" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1464969');">benc</a>:</small><br><br>I suggest a minimum speed of 768kbps, and a maximum monthly cost of say, 15 x Min. Wage.  That figure would currently come out to $77.25/mo.  <br> </div>Redo your math, 15 X $5.85 is $87.75]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 03:45:53 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[tad2020 posted : An OC3 in so. California, 2 blocks away from from a Level 3 interchange, is over $1000/mo non-wholesale.<br><br>Some one that works "at" my office works from her home in Montana, she can get a 10Mbps cable connection for under $49/mo while I can't even get cable TV service at the office in one of the "technology capital" of Orange county, go figure.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:49:34 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[benc posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/765230" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=765230');">Uncle Paul</a>:</small><br><br>So what exactly is the definition of broadband then?<br> </div>I don't know, and that's what's bothersome.<br><br>There not only has to be a minimum transfer rate requirement, but there needs to be a price requirement as well.<br><br>I suggest a minimum speed of 768kbps, and a maximum monthly cost of say, 15 x Min. Wage.  That figure would currently come out to $77.25/mo.  There also needs to be a latency requirement, and a requirement of the minimum percentage of street addresses that have access.<br><br>Why all these requirements?<br><br>SPEED:<br>384kbps DSL currently fits the guidelines, but it's hardly what I consider broadband.  768k is barely there, and even that will seem slow.<br><br>PRICE:<br>Suppose I live in Dinkyville, WY or SmallTown, MT.  No offense to Wyoming or Montana residents of course.  Then suppose I was loaded with money and financed the build-out of an OC3 line out to my house.  Then, according to the present guidelines, I would be the one house with a connection faster than 200kbps, and then the zip code will "have broadband."  Thing is, an OC3 costs far more than $100/mo.<br><br>LATENCY:<br>Without a latency requirement, anywhere with EDGE access counts since it's *theoretically* faster than 200kbps.  Again, no latency requirement means the ability to use satellite Internet counts as broadband.  Satellite Internet also sometimes fails the price requirement.<br><br>MINIMUM PERCENTAGE OF STREET ADDRESSES:<br>I think this speaks for itself.  Going back to my previous example of the OC3, it would mean that the zip code is "broadband ready," even if a next door neighbor can't pay for the connection.  How "broadband ready" does the zip code look to average people in that zip code?<br><br>Of course, I don't really have an OC3, though I wish I did.  I've always considered small-town living as very expensive since A) you have to drive long distances to do anything (time, maybe gas), and B) needing a T1 since DSL and Cable probably won't be available.  Locally available goods will also be expensive due to transportation costs.<br><br>Thankfully, where I live can't be considered really rural, although it's the most rural area I've ever lived in.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:59:32 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[lastmile posted : I wonder if they take latency into consideration?  I certainly hope so.   <br><br>Although you can acceptable bandwidth on Satellite, the high ping times defeat many applications suited for Broadband such as gaming, voip, vpn, etc.  <br><br>High latency shouldn't be considered broadband.  ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:41:14 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[sirwoogie posted : Oye! Then this stops before it starts. If you have no bar to measure to, then how do you measure success? <br><br><i><br>Them: How many widgets can you produce?<br>Me: What is a widget?<br>Them: We're not sure. How many can you produce?<br>...<br></i><br><br>Guess I have to go read this thing.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:46:43 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ThrowDemsOut posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/765230" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=765230');">Uncle Paul</a>:</small><br><br>So what exactly is the definition of broadband then?<br> </div>The original draft was a MINIMUM 2/1 mbps. The marked up final committee draft removed any mention of broadband speeds.<br><small>--<br>--<br><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/2a9xcb">Internet News</a><br><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/bqv2h">My BLOG</a><br><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/yz8xto">My Web Page</a></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:15:02 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Uncle Paul posted : So what exactly is the definition of broadband then?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:04:22 EDT</pubDate>
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