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KoolMoe
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join:2001-02-14
Annapolis, MD

reply to openbox9

Re: I'm shocked, just shocked I say

It's completely up to the Telcos to preach their wholesale rate. I almost guarantee there is profit built-in to the rate they present.
KM


sporkme
drop the crantini and move it, sister
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-01
Morristown, NJ

said by KoolMoe:

It's completely up to the Telcos to preach their wholesale rate. I almost guarantee there is profit built-in to the rate they present.
I totally guarantee it.

Where this myth that they "give the lines away to competitors" came from is beyond me... Covad and others pay dearly for dry copper for "naked" ADSL and SDSL.

openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:1

reply to KoolMoe
That's fine and I would hope that the telcos aren't breaking even or losing money by selling access to CLECs. The root of the problem is still that the ILECs are forced to provide this access and I'm having a difficult time seeing benefits for anyone except for the poor CLECs who "can't afford to compete and need a handout to get into business". Here's an idea. If CLECs really want to provide service and can't afford to overbuild infrastructure, maybe they should look at buying the infrastructure from the ILEC. But then again, I'm sure they can't afford that option either.



quetwo
That VoIP Guy
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join:2004-09-04
East Lansing, MI

Take a look at the history books, and turn to the pages where in New York, each "CLEC" or competitive phone company ran their own wires. The poles were 3 stories tall, with gobs and gobs of wires. People saw this as an assult of their public right-of-way, so new laws were enacted.

Could you imaging every CLEC having to have their own pole space in each metro they serviced? Just in my area, there is : AT&T, Old AT&T, TDS, Metrolink, Telecom USA, CheckPhone, McCloud USA, ACD, Arialink, Comcast... Those are just the ones on the top of my head. And I don't live in a very dense area!

The goverment subsidized the build out of a SINGLE telecom network to remove the issue of having every C/LEC have its own wire in the ground.

The copper plant in the ground is a natural monopoly. The service running on it, is a commodity market.


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