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RolteC
0h

join:2001-05-20
Fresh Meadows, NY
reply to JohnNWPVNJMH
Re: Verizon to offer 20meg symetrical FiOS

It feels AWESOME to ahve this speed. It almost always maxes out any download from any website, and same for upload.


rtcy
FACTS only please
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join:1999-10-16
Beverly Hills, CA
·Verizon west (ex G..
·Verizon FIOS

reply to lithiumfox
said by lithiumfox See Profile :

my question to all those that have the 20/20 fios, do you have to be using their provided router for it to work?

called them monday to get the service setup, said it would be working in 4 hours. called them today (thursday) said the order was never placed, so they did it again, said the service would be changed by the end of the business day. now i am thinking maybe its something on my end?

currently using dd-wrt on linksys router connected via pppoe.
you don't have to BUT most cheap wrt54g and work alikes are NOT fast enough to sustain 20, you need something new like what Verizon gives or go with the DLINK dir-655 it's rated the fastest router for the home right now, I just switched all my switches to gigabit 3com and all my machines have gigabit NICs most are Intel pro's , so when I go with FIOS this month I will be ready, I also re-did all my ethernet wires myself with 5e and 6 cat using 568a modified wiring to keep collisions to a minimun and kept it away from electrical wires to (plenum type also). I will hate to give up my 3 trusty wrt54g's.

I'm hoping sveasoft will support something as fast as the DIR-655 soon, but that one is not open software so we are SOL.

UofMiamiGrad
Premium
join:2001-02-03
Great Neck, NY

My cheap WRT54G has no issues at all. Hell it did well with OOL Boost as well.

Fast enough for me:

»msiad.visualware.com/myspeed/db/···=7652421


RolteC
0h

join:2001-05-20
Fresh Meadows, NY
Im using the router they provide, and I must say, for a free router, it does the job very well.

No you dont need to, but it is recommended because as stated above, not all routers are capable of these speeds.


rtcy
FACTS only please
Premium
join:1999-10-16
Beverly Hills, CA
·Verizon west (ex G..
·Verizon FIOS

reply to UofMiamiGrad
said by UofMiamiGrad See Profile :

My cheap WRT54G has no issues at all. Hell it did well with OOL Boost as well.

Fast enough for me:

»msiad.visualware.com/myspeed/db/···=7652421
That's good to hear, maybe I won't have to upgrade, but I had read of a few people saying they could not no matter what, using a few of the optimised firmwares and all check'd to go as fast as they could.

that is good news indeed for me, as I have my stuff set up tight.

thanks

lithiumfox

join:2002-01-28
Mineola, NY

reply to rtcy
thanks rtcy. the wrt54g that i currently have is working well, hitting well over 20/5 with my current speeds. my friend was told that he needed to get a new router in order to get the 20/20 service, though i was skeptical and wanted to see what everyone had to say. the dlink d624 that they had provided me when i first got the service was garbage. if i dont need any new hardware, i rather keep what i have for now

JohnNWPVNJMH

join:2007-03-26
Berkeley Heights, NJ


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reply to psbny
I never heard of speed restrictive issues with the Linksys WRT54G series but if there really is an issue with the Linksys firmware you may want to check out an alternative solution and load your router with the opensource DD-WRT firmware which will work with the Linksys WRT54G router. Other brands and Linksys models are also supported, check, installation -->> Is my router supported, at the first site below.

About (Technical)
»www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php?ti···ocu_(EN)

About (General)
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DD-WRT


rtcy
FACTS only please
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join:1999-10-16
Beverly Hills, CA
·Verizon west (ex G..
·Verizon FIOS

said by JohnNWPVNJMH See Profile :

I never heard of speed restrictive issues with the Linksys WRT54G series but if there really is an issue with the Linksys firmware you may want to check out an alternative solution and load your router with the opensource DD-WRT firmware which will work with the Linksys WRT54G router. Other brands and Linksys models are also supported, check, installation -->> Is my router supported, at the first site below.

About (Technical)
»www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php?ti···ocu_(EN)

About (General)
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DD-WRT
I tried dd-wrt but had issues with it, my sons loved it cause it has a way for the playstations to work , I forget the option right now, but it kept locking up so I went back to Sveasoft 1.2.2 it's a solid version.

I believe the poster above "uofmiami" that hi's is handling that speed ok, in going back and remember that the post were made by the 50gig people, so must of us will be ok until we have 50 or faster


noping
no route to host
Premium
join:2007-01-09
·Verizon FIOS


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said by rtcy See Profile :

you don't have to BUT most cheap wrt54g and work alikes are NOT fast enough to sustain 20, you need something new like what Verizon gives or go with the DLINK dir-655 it's rated the fastest router for the home right now
Wrong.

Sveasoft's releases are garbage - not to mention that James Ewing treats his customers like criminals. Oh, the stories I could tell involving my credit card company and Sveasoft.

The only DD-WRT+WRT54G problem that I know of was with the PPPoE implementation in v23 SP2 (now obsolete) and the higher speed tiers. It's since been fixed with the v24 release candidates.

lithiumfox

join:2002-01-28
Mineola, NY
called again today to get my service done (4th time the charm?) we will see later today if it actually went through.


danclan

join:2005-11-01
Midlothian, VA
·Verizon FIOS

reply to noping
The only DD-WRT+WRT54G problem that I know of was with the PPPoE implementation in v23 SP2 (now obsolete) and the higher speed tiers. It's since been fixed with the v24 release candidates.
so PPPoE is now fixed again? I have held off going to 23 sp1+ or 24 because of that but if 24 is fixing it will take another look..

I did extensive testing with several versions of 23 a while ago and the only way to get pppoe to perform well with 30/5 was to over clock.


noping
no route to host
Premium
join:2007-01-09
·Verizon FIOS


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As far as I can tell. Seeing as how we're limited to 15/2 for no reason at all here around Killadelphia, I tested by saturating the connection while running a few VOD streams - under v23 SP2, this would occasionally cause DD-WRT to choke and cause problems with VOD. No, not a very precise test - but it's the best that I can do.

I can't test what would happen with the 20/20, 30/5 packages. You're on your own there.
--
"Way I remember it, albatross was a ship's good luck, 'til some idiot killed it."

lithiumfox

join:2002-01-28
Mineola, NY
reply to psbny
current running dd-wrt v24 rc4 w/ pppoe no issues with speed.


danclan

join:2005-11-01
Midlothian, VA
·Verizon FIOS

after testing on a WRT54GSv4 with DD-WRT v24 RC4. PPPoE is not fixed. It sill requires over clocking to achieve full 30mbps or more.

If you have a newer router that has a higher clock speed then you may not see any impact.

I had to over clock to 233mhz to get to 28.7 mbps on my v4 linksys.

The 24 RC4 was very clean to install and no issues going back to v23 base. I did notice that importing a v23 backup disabled many features so i did factory reset and manually enabled everything before creating a v24 backup.

I am bummed though as v23 still has bad lan dhcp daemon

If I was not PPPoE ...why they haven't just eliminated that altogether i dont know...i could move to v24 full time and be very very happy....so I may look to finally upgrade my v4 to something with more clock speed and or RAM.

I do notice a hit now with running HD VOD streaming across the lan. So if anyone has some recommendations that would be great....


PGHammer

join:2003-06-09
Accokeek, MD
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·Comcast

reply to Raven313
In Maryland, it will be 15/15. Still.....*ouch*!
It's a *BLAST!*-killer (BLAST! is Comcast's uber-HSI package above even the 8000/768 Performance Plus with PowerBoost), considering it's symmetrical (which BLAST! isn't) and that it is only two-thirds the price of BLAST! (which is $99 monthly, where offered), not to mention it will be available in far more locations than BLAST! (which is *not* avilable in either Prince Goerge's or Montgomery Counties at all).


rtcy
FACTS only please
Premium
join:1999-10-16
Beverly Hills, CA
·Verizon west (ex G..
·Verizon FIOS

reply to noping
said by noping See Profile :

said by rtcy See Profile :

you don't have to BUT most cheap wrt54g and work alikes are NOT fast enough to sustain 20, you need something new like what Verizon gives or go with the DLINK dir-655 it's rated the fastest router for the home right now
Wrong.

Sveasoft's releases are garbage
/snip/
The only DD-WRT+WRT54G problem that I know of was with the PPPoE implementation in v23 SP2 (now obsolete) and the higher speed tiers. It's since been fixed with the v24 release candidates.
Well you have your opinions and experiences and I have mine.

in my world Sveasoft does what I need and does it good. there have been versions with bugs just like dd-wrt has them too. I used their "stable v23 sp4 ??" and their newer one v24,(version numbers are by memory) I liked the daemon for game consoles, but *both* versions would lock up and had dhcp client issues. I like Sveasoft 1.21 and 1.22 and if it works why fool with it.

anyway we all need to use what we find useful and I'm in no way here to sell *either* one as I'm thinking of moving to the DIR-655 wich no one makes aftermarket code for because of the propitary code in it, but since it has all I want , that will do it for me.


scoopy03

join:2003-05-06
00000
reply to BLUNTED 1
looks pretty good


danclan

join:2005-11-01
Midlothian, VA
·Verizon FIOS

reply to rtcy
quote:
said by rtcy See Profile :

you don't have to BUT most cheap wrt54g and work alikes are NOT fast enough to sustain 20, you need something new like what Verizon gives or go with the DLINK dir-655 it's rated the fastest router for the home right now
thats bunk even gen1 wrt54g and wrt54gs can easily handle 20mb connections and 30mbps connections. this has been discussed and tested so often that i grow old just responding to this....

i run a gen4 54gs cause my gen1 wireless died. with dd-wrt v23 base release with no issues and have for 2 years with my 30mbps and PPPoE.

Its the clock speed that matter most for those running over PPPoE. Those who are buying the newer routers around 100$ will have no issues running 30+ and virtually all linksys 54 models or later will easily sustain and exceed 30mbps. And users on DHCP should have an even easier time.

So find a router you like and enjoy...search the net for routers with clocks speeds nearing 300MHz or better for real speed proof routing.


danclan

join:2005-11-01
Midlothian, VA
·Verizon FIOS


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reply to rtcy
in my world Sveasoft does what I need and does it good. there have been versions with bugs just like dd-wrt has them too. I used their "stable v23 sp4 ??" and their newer one v24,(version numbers are by memory) I liked the daemon for game consoles, but *both* versions would lock up and had dhcp client issues. I like Sveasoft 1.21 and 1.22 and if it works why fool with it.
the dhcp daemon bug was fixed in ddwwrt v23 sp1 and later. V24 RC1+ its definitely fixed as well...


rtcy
FACTS only please
Premium
join:1999-10-16
Beverly Hills, CA
·Verizon west (ex G..
·Verizon FIOS

said by danclan See Profile :

in my world Sveasoft does what I need and does it good. there have been versions with bugs just like dd-wrt has them too. I used their "stable v23 sp4 ??" and their newer one v24,(version numbers are by memory) I liked the daemon for game consoles, but *both* versions would lock up and had dhcp client issues. I like Sveasoft 1.21 and 1.22 and if it works why fool with it.
the dhcp daemon bug was fixed in ddwwrt v23 sp1 and later. V24 RC1+ its definitely fixed as well...
OK will give it a try on my son's bedrooms, they each have a router, I like the KAI daemon for their console connectivity, I donated 30.00 to brainslayer 2 months ago.

for my edge router I still prefer Sveasoft, right now ver 1.26 seems as good and stable as 1.22, 1.31 the one released to the public for free seems to hang up overnight and loose it's DHCP and does not renew just like the problems I was having with dd-wrt v23 sp2 as I recall, so I rolled 1.31 back to 1.26 and works just like it should.

Tomorrow I'm getting FIOS installed , and will try out the Actiontec and see how I feel about it, OTHERWISE I will buy a DIR-655 and put it there to handle firewall(I like the 4 giga ports it complements the rest of my network) and leave the Actiontec with the firewall OFF but running , next month when I get FIOS TV I will need it for the IPG and VOD.

I won a bid on a spare Actiontec and will probably donate it to James at Sveasoft to see IF he wants to consider writing code for it. I'm also ordering the open software fron Jungo in Israel (what a gimmick that company has making you send them a certified check to Isreal so they can send you back a CD haven't they heard of credit cards and HTTPS servers to collect that money??. it's probably to keep people from requesting the code under the open software licensing agreement)

If James does not do it, I still intend fooling with it, to increase the radio output and to permanently remove that open port.

keeps me busy that and grindind mirrors for telescopes my 2 hobbies
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