http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19249653 en Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:21:20 EDT Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:21:20 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19267465 calvoiper : Let's see, would you have preferred a world free of electricity (because electricity has indeed killed some people) or automobiles (which also sometimes kill people) or grape crushers (which also sometimes kill people) or tools (which also sometimes kill people) or man-made fire (which also sometimes kills people)?

The true nature of Luddites is that they seek to escape both all risk and all possibility of making a wrong decision. They abhor not only novelty, but also choice.

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As such, I'd like to see some studies that are free from conflicts of interest. This would rule out sponsors or researchers who are, or have some financial or career interest or dependence on:

• businesses that profit from wireless devices;
• government agencies that historically and routinely favor business interests over those of individual citizens or the public as a whole;
• any study not peer-reviewed by disinterested experts for methodological and scientific soundness;
• any entity that reserves the right to not release results of health-related studies it conducts or sponsors.

I suspect that there is little scientific literature in existence today, on the subject of radio frequency effects, that is free from such conflicts of interest (and likely causes or bias or concealment).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19249653 Sat, 13 Oct 2007 14:36:52 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19249126 TKJunkMail : The Luddites always fall back on the old tried and true tactic of making accusations and then demanding the government, health authorities, wireless firms, etc prove that no harm can be possibly be done ever. »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_proof

In other words:
Accuser: "I say that WiFi harms me. Now prove it doesn't."

The only thing that scientists can do is prove that it HASN'T HARMED anyone. They can't prove that it will never harm anyone, but that is what the Luddites demand.
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