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<title>[HELP] Prepending AS path in Multihomed setup in Cisco</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/834366"><b>Covenant</b></A> : As  sporkme <A HREF="/useremail/u/168864"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> was saying, you can advise Sprint to remove that /24 from their aggregate and advertise it out as it is.<br><br>Alternatively, you can control what is being advertised with the use of conditional advertisement.<br><br>Therefore, even if your backup connection was brought up first and the Sprint connection second, the traffic will still route via the Sprint connection inbound as your router would withdraw the prefix from being advertised to TWC only advertising it under certain "conditions".<br><small>--<br>A word to the wise ain't necessary, it's the stupid ones who need the advice!</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:10:30 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/168864"><b>sporkme</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by pdk :</small><br><br>Nevermind, you are right. /16 is being advertised from Sprint because they own that block. /24 is being advertised because the /24 block is assigned to us and thats the only route TWC needs to advertise.<br> </div>You should be able to contact Sprint and explain it as you did above and have them advertise your more specific /24.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:12:37 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : Nevermind, you are right. /16 is being advertised from Sprint because they own that block. /24 is being advertised because the /24 block is assigned to us and thats the only route TWC needs to advertise.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:41:49 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/834366"><b>Covenant</b></A> : There is another way to do this but it all depends on your configuration as regards how you are learning the network "10.10.10.0/24" which you are advertising out to AS400 and AS500.<br><br>If you are learning the network via an IGP or eBGP from another host internal from the two CEs mentioned above, it will be tricky to do this without prepends but possible.<br><br>To accomplish this, we will use the not widely known IOS BGP feature of non-exist maps. (As jwhitecs pointed out, it is called BGP Conditional Advertisement and not non-exist map. That is what I use to describe it to customers at design meetings at work so apologies if it wasn't exactly correct. Nothing else technically, in this post is incorrect so its all semantics).<br><br>Basically, on the backup router, we will use this feature so as NOT to advertise the prefix out unless it detects a missing prefix which will cause it to advertise all routes out. Once the prefix is present again, it will stop advertising out the route.<br><br>Essentially on the backup router, we will setup a prefix-list to match for the default route coming in:<br><br><textarea name="code" class="text" cols=50 rows=10>!  &#012;ip prefix-list TRACK-THESE-PREFIXES-PL seq 10 permit 0.0.0.0/0  &#012;!&#012;</textarea><!--end code block--><br>Then, an AS path list will be created matching for AS path 500 at the beginning of the AS path which is the AS peer for R1:<br><br><textarea name="code" class="text" cols=50 rows=10>!  &#012;ip as-path access-list 1 permit ^500  &#012;! &#012;</textarea><!--end code block--><br>Then a route-map created to amalgamate the two together:<br><br><textarea name="code" class="text" cols=50 rows=10>!  &#012;route-map TRACK-THESE-SUBNETS-RM  &#012; match ip address prefix-list TRACK-THESE-PREFIXES-PL  &#012; match as-path 1  &#012;!  &#012;</textarea><!--end code block--><br>Next, we need to create a prefix list and route-map for the subnets we want to advertise when the prefix we are looking for (0.0.0.0/0) and as path (^500) are not present (created in the route-map above):<br><br><textarea name="code" class="text" cols=50 rows=10>!  &#012;ip prefix-list ADVERTISE-LOCAL-PL seq 10 permit 10.10.10.0/24  &#012;!  &#012;</textarea><!--end code block--><br>Then the route-map to tie this prefix-list to it:<br><br><textarea name="code" class="text" cols=50 rows=10>!  &#012;route-map ADVERTISE-ME-NOW-RM permit 10  &#012; match ip address prefix-list ADVERTISE-LOCAL-PL  &#012;!  &#012;</textarea><!--end code block--><br>Then for your AS400 PE on router 2, remove the route-map with the prepends and add the route-map with the non-exist map:<br><br><textarea name="code" class="text" cols=50 rows=10>!  &#012;router bgp 300  &#012; no neighbor 3.3.3.4 route-map localonly out  &#012; neighbor 3.3.3.4 advertise-map ADVERTISE-ME-NOW-RM non-exist-map TRACK-THESE-SUBNETS-RM TRACK-THESE-SUBNETS-RM  &#012;!  &#012;</textarea><!--end code block--><br>You might want to test this in a maintenance window/lab first and you will also have to look at route-dampening between the two routers (1 and 2) to minimise a flapping cct chances of causing route-dampening to be enabled on the ISP's PEs and Ps by the constant withdrawal of your prefixes and then advertisement.<br><br>That should cure your issue of a "stuck" backup route being present as the primary route in the ISP's RIB.<br><br><small>--<br>A word to the wise ain't necessary, it's the stupid ones who need the advice!</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:59:54 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1402139"><b>jwhitecs</b></A> : I've checked several route-servers around from various ISP's and they all show the same as above. 1 /16 aggregate and 1 /24. Were are you seeing 2 /24's]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:36:54 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1402139"><b>jwhitecs</b></A> : route-server>show ip bgp 204.120.0.0 255.255.0.0 longer-prefixes <br>BGP table version is 2261631429, local router ID is 64.135.5.58<br>Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid, > best, i - internal,<br>              r RIB-failure, S Stale<br>Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete<br><br>   Network          Next Hop            Metric LocPrf Weight Path<br>*  204.120.0.0/16   64.135.0.1                             0 13645 3356 1239 i   *******/16 from Sprint*******<br>*  204.120.1.0      64.135.0.1                             0 13645 4323 17293 14860 i<br>*  204.120.2.0      64.135.0.1                             0 13645 3356 1239 18692 i<br>*  204.120.16.0/20  64.135.0.1                             0 13645 7018 25615 21747 30032 i<br>*  204.120.34.0     64.135.0.1                             0 13645 3356 1239 7066 i<br>*  204.120.36.0/22  64.135.0.1                             0 13645 3356 7385 6488 i<br>*  204.120.80.0/20  64.135.0.1                             0 13645 1785 i<br>*  204.120.138.0    64.135.0.1                             0 13645 7018 32455 i<br>*  204.120.140.0/22 64.135.0.1                             0 13645 3356 1239 11398 3704 i<br>*  204.120.160.0    64.135.0.1                             0 13645 6539 19092 21947 18614 i<br>*  204.120.161.0    64.135.0.1                             0 13645 6539 19092 21947 18614 i<br>*  204.120.162.0    64.135.0.1                             0 13645 6539 19092 21947 18614 i<br>*  204.120.163.0    64.135.0.1                             0 13645 6539 19092 21947 18614 i<br>*  204.120.182.0    64.135.0.1                             0 13645 33739 i<br>*  204.120.192.0    64.135.0.1                             0 13645 3356 1239 26909 i<br>*  204.120.193.0    64.135.0.1                             0 13645 3356 1239 26909 i<br>*  204.120.194.0    64.135.0.1                             0 13645 7132 26909 26909 26909 i<br>*  204.120.195.0    64.135.0.1                             0 13645 7132 26909 26909 26909 i<br>*  204.120.196.0    64.135.0.1                             0 13645 7132 26909 i<br>*  204.120.197.0    64.135.0.1                             0 13645 7132 26909 26909 26909 i<br>*  204.120.198.0    64.135.0.1                             0 13645 7132 26909 i<br>*  204.120.199.0    64.135.0.1                             0 13645 7132 26909 i<br>*  204.120.206.0    64.135.0.1                             0 13645 3356 1239 27548 i<br>*  204.120.207.0    64.135.0.1                             0 13645 3356 11426 32913 i  *****/24 from TWC*****]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:57:52 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : Oh no, /24 is being announced from both providers. What gave you the idea either was announcing a /16, where did you see that?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:51:32 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1402139"><b>jwhitecs</b></A> :  Yeah pdk that makes no sense. Since the prefixes being announced are not the same (a /24 and a /16) from your two providers the BGP metrics wont matter cause there not considered equivalent routes for the same prefix.<br><br> BGP (any routing protocol for that matter)is always going to take the longest match prefix first before bgp metrics are ever used. Longer prefixes are always preferred over shorter ones when forwarding a packet. I was under the impression that your class C was announced as a /24 from both of your providers which in that case BGP decision process would come into play.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:48:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/231904"><b>bartem01</b></A> : Try match on the acl in your route map and you need<br><br>route-map localonly permit 20<br><br>after your permit 10.<br><br>You can do on your secondary router:<br>ip access-list standard set-as-prepend<br> permit 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.255<br>exit<br>route-map localonly permit 10<br> match ip address set-as-prepend<br> set as-path prepend 300 300 300<br>exit<br>route-map localonly permit 20<br><br>Also make sure your secondary ISP grants metrics from you.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:38:22 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : Well outgoing i am not worried about. I control that completely with our firewall. The only reason I use BGP is to control the path of incoming traffic. Like you said, right now the way its configured TWC should be the preferred route it both are up, however,  whichever link comes up first is the one that is preferred. If i were to shutdown both routers, turn on only my sprint, wait 5 minutes then turn on my TWC, sprint would be the preferred route and remain that way until i rebooted my sprint router. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:38:35 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1402139"><b>jwhitecs</b></A> : So assuming your Sprint connection is currently up TWC AS11426 is announcing a /24 and Sprint AS1239 is announcing a /16 aggregate. So for inbound traffic to you its always going to take the longest match prefix which would be TWC (when both are up). As far as the outbound traffic leaving your AS it looks like you are learning a default route (0.0.0.0/0) from both TWC and Sprint so in that case the Local Preference can be set to give preference to one default over the other and when one goes away the other takes over. The highest local preference will be preferred. Both are set to 100 by default so you could set the Sprint peer local preference to 50 to always prefer TWC peer for outbound traffic exiting the AS.<br><br>route-server>show ip bgp 204.120.207.0 255.255.0.0 longer-prefixes   <br>BGP table version is 3083298, local router ID is 12.0.1.28<br>Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid, > best, i - internal,<br>              S Stale<br>Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete<br><br>   Network          Next Hop            Metric LocPrf Weight Path<br>*  204.120.0.0/16   12.123.13.241                          0 7018 1239 i<br>*  204.120.207.0    12.123.13.241                          0 7018 3356 11426 32913 i]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:22:19 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/635348"><b>rolande</b></A> : As an entity providing a hosted service, you can not take on the responsibility of "broken" client DNS servers. As long as you are obeying the standard, it is up to them to resolve their problem.<br><br>What if the customer decided it was in their best interest to provide extended BGP dampening? If your routes flap in BGP, you get blackholed from the customer for a period of time. This is the exact same situation and you can not be responsible for a broken configuration on the client's end.<br><br>Application layer failover is not a bad thing. It is actually better for us networking types because it takes the responsibility of resiliency off our shoulders. :)<br><small>--<br>Ignorance is temporary...stupidity lasts forever!<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.thewaystation.com/" >www.thewaystation.com/</A> <br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://blog.thewaystation.com/" >blog.thewaystation.com/</A></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:24:35 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/168864"><b>sporkme</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  rolande <A HREF="/useremail/u/635348"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  sporkme <A HREF="/useremail/u/168864"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I also understand how broken DNS servers not under your direct control can completely bork up your plans when you rely on DNS for failover of inbound services. :)<br> </div>Really? I'd be interested to know what the scenarios were where you encountered the issues. <br> </div>I've not seen it with load balancing since I don't do that, but I've certainly seen misbehaving caching nameservers hold something much longer than the specified TTL.  I have no idea what software said nameservers were running, my assumption was that it was not either BIND or DJBDNS...]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 01:54:16 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/168864"><b>sporkme</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by pdk :</small><br><br>Our ISP is doing it on our behalf. What other config snippets do you need. I thought I copied all my BGP config info in my original post. <br> </div>Ooops.  Sorry, I'm blind.<br><br>Anyhow, at this point I see two paths from the looking glass I'm diddling.  I don't take full routes from my upstreams anymore.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 01:52:03 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/635348"><b>rolande</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  sporkme <A HREF="/useremail/u/168864"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I also understand how broken DNS servers not under your direct control can completely bork up your plans when you rely on DNS for failover of inbound services. :)<br> </div>Really? I'd be interested to know what the scenarios were where you encountered the issues. The only issue I am aware of is primarily the 0 TTL issue with broken versions of BIND. Alternatively, if you are providing active/active geographic load balancing via DNS, you can run into issues with any clients using a provider's DNS that is serviced via Anycast.<br><br>In any case, we are talking about failover here. Failover should take place rarely for which the actual number of clients who might be impacted would be quite negligible anyway. So the argument can go either way fairly easily.<br><br>I have leveraged both 3DNS and the GSS product for global load balancing since 2002 in a couple of extremely high profile financial hosting environments serving literally millions of customers around the world. I have yet to be engaged in a troubleshooting call during a failover event, which app owners seem to incur on a regular basis for testing and DR events, where a user's DNS response was cached and stuck to the "offline" facility. I have witnessed the 0 TTL phenomenon on many occasions, not of my own doing, and I have seen Anycast client DNS cause out of state issues with applications. I'd love to know the issues you have experienced with "broken" DNS servers.<br><br>In the end, if a client has broken DNS, there isn't much you can do about it and it is not your responsibility, in any case. You build your own environment to support the standards. If others have issues because they are non-compliant, then it is up to them to resolve the problem.<br><small>--<br>Ignorance is temporary...stupidity lasts forever!<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.thewaystation.com/" >www.thewaystation.com/</A> <br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://blog.thewaystation.com/" >blog.thewaystation.com/</A></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:11:25 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : Query: bgp<br>Address: 204.120.207.0<br><br>BGP routing table entry for 204.120.207.0/24, version 93798026<br>Paths: (3 available, best #2, table Default-IP-Routing-Table)<br>  Advertised to non peer-group peers:<br>  66.178.0.2 66.178.0.3 66.178.0.4 66.178.0.5 66.178.0.6 66.178.0.7 66.178.0.11 <br>  66.178.0.12 66.178.0.14 66.178.0.16 66.178.0.17 66.178.0.18 66.178.0.23 <br>  66.178.0.24 <br>  6461 1668 11426 32913, (Received from a RR-client), (received & used)<br>    66.178.0.2 (metric 2) from 66.178.0.2 (66.178.0.2)<br>      Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, valid, internal<br>      Community: 16422:666<br>  701 3356 11426 32913<br>    157.130.47.117 from 157.130.47.117 (137.39.3.146)<br>      Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external, best<br>      Community: 16422:666<br>  701 3356 11426 32913, (received-only)<br>    157.130.47.117 from 157.130.47.117 (137.39.3.146)<br>      Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:42:58 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1402139"><b>jwhitecs</b></A> : you left your public AS# in the original post.<br><br>neighbor 10.10.10.3 remote-as 32913<br><br>-still only 1 path <br>route-server>show ip bgp  regexp _32913$<br>BGP table version is 2745442, local router ID is 12.0.1.28<br>Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid, > best, i - internal,<br>              S Stale<br>Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete<br><br>   Network          Next Hop            Metric LocPrf Weight Path<br>*  204.120.207.0    12.123.13.241                          0 7018 3356 11426 32913 i<br>*                   12.123.29.249                          0 7018 3356 11426 32913 i<br>*                   12.123.145.124                         0 7018 3356 11426 32913 i<br>*                   12.123.5.240                           0 7018 3356 11426 32913 i<br>*                   12.123.37.250                          0 7018 3356 11426 32913 i<br>*                   12.123.21.243                          0 7018 3356 11426 32913 i<br>*                   12.123.45.252                          0 7018 3356 11426 32913 i<br>*                   12.123.142.124                         0 7018 3356 11426 32913 i<br>*                   12.123.139.124                         0 7018 3356 11426 32913 i<br>*                   12.123.133.124                         0 7018 3356 11426 32913 i<br>*                   12.123.134.124                         0 7018 3356 11426 32913 i<br>*                   12.123.33.249                          0 7018 3356 11426 32913 i<br>*                   12.123.25.245                          0 7018 3356 11426 32913 i<br>*                   12.123.17.244                          0 7018 3356 11426 32913 i<br>*>                  12.123.1.236                           0 7018 1668 11426 32913 i<br>*                   12.123.41.250                          0 7018 1668 11426 32913 i<br>*                   12.123.137.124                         0 7018 1668 11426 32913 i<br>*                   12.123.9.241                           0 7018 1668 11426 32913 i]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:05:30 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : I did pick a looking glass, for what my limited knowledge tells me it looks fine, i don't understand why it doesn't return to the preferred route of TWC once the conneciton is restored.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : Our ISP is doing it on our behalf. What other config snippets do you need. I thought I copied all my BGP config info in my original post. Do you see our two routes advertised as of now?<br><br>my domain is in TINY italic letters under my name, didn't realize it was there sorry, was wondering how it was so easy for everyone to know who i was   :o]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/168864"><b>sporkme</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  carp <A HREF="/useremail/u/712841"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>You sound uninformed about solving it with DNS, Radware, etc.  Works like a charm in many situations. <br> </div>Quite the contrary.  No matter what box you use for DNS load-balancing you are still relying on DNS, which I understand quite well.  I also understand how broken DNS servers not under your direct control can completely bork up your plans when you rely on DNS for failover of inbound services. :)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:52:25 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/168864"><b>sporkme</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by pdk :</small><br><br>Also if Sprintlink was NOT announcing the route, then how would traffic ever fail over when our TWC link was down, which it does. I believe the reason you weren't seeing the route was because our sprintlink was down at that time, per my previous post. I see two routes as of right now and my TWC link is preferred........<br> </div>You're really not answering any questions about your config...  The most basic being, are you announcing routes yourself via BGP or is each ISP doing it on your behalf?  Config snippets would help.<br><br>As to privacy, well, whois is a simple tool that most anyone in this forum should be familiar with.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:50:59 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/676954"><b>aryoba</b></A> : Yeah, I notice that your IP address and stuff is easier to find when you post as anon instead of registered account ... :)<br><br>But that's off topic and I don't want to go further ... :D<br><br>Now, pdk; have you got a chance to pick a looking glass and see if your AS # is announced as supposed to?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:26:42 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : Also if Sprintlink was NOT announcing the route, then how would traffic ever fail over when our TWC link was down, which it does. I believe the reason you weren't seeing the route was because our sprintlink was down at that time, per my previous post. I see two routes as of right now and my TWC link is preferred........]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:18:16 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : SUre, its assigned to us from sprint but we have the whole block. Now that you've announced our location, physical address, domain info, router IP's, AS#, how about I just give everyone my Enable password! Sure it can be found if you search enough but it clearly states when posting to MASK the real IP addresses, AS#'s etc...]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:06:07 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/712841"><b>carp</b></A> : You sound uninformed about solving it with DNS, Radware, etc.  Works like a charm in many situations. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:30:39 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/168864"><b>sporkme</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by pdk   :</small><br><br>We have our own AS and Class C as stated in the original post.<br> </div>It actually looks like you don't have your own class C, it's reassigned from Sprint:<br><br>[spork@devel2] $ whois -h whois.arin.net NET-204-120-207-0-1<br><br>OrgName:    Captive-Aire Systems<br>OrgID:      CAPTI-2<br>Address:    117 Franklin Park Ave<br>City:       Youngsville<br>StateProv:  NC<br>PostalCode: 27596<br>Country:    US<br><br>NetRange:   204.120.207.0 - 204.120.207.255<br>CIDR:       204.120.207.0/24<br>NetName:    SPRINTLINK<br>NetHandle:  NET-204-120-207-0-1<br>Parent:     NET-204-117-0-0-1<br>NetType:    Reassigned  &lt;&lt;&lt;----<br><br>Which is interesting, since they are the ones NOT announcing the route.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:00:07 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1402139"><b>jwhitecs</b></A> : sorry about anonymous stuff pdk. But you left your public AS in the masked config above so I went from there.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:50:46 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : We have our own AS and Class C as stated in the original post.<br><br>Due to a router crash on Monday night, our sprintlink connection is down and our fiber connection is the only advertised route as of now. That is probably why you are only seeing 1 route advertised. <br><br>And so much for masking my real IP and AS #.....<br><br>Anyhoo, back to the topic...I'm going to wait until my sprint connection is back up and check out what routes are being advertised when both links are active, then post what I find.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:59:47 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1483384"><b>Nubiatech</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  jwhitecs <A HREF="/useremail/u/1402139"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>well, if class C x.x.x.x is the prefix in question then as shown below its only being announced by one of your providers (road runner/twcable AS11426).<br> </div>Nice detective work there!   :D<br>So much for "anonymous" @somedomain.tld<br>---<br>Edit: remove actual subnet.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 06:21:42 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1402139"><b>jwhitecs</b></A> : do a "show ip bgp neighbor x.x.x.x advertised-routes" and verify that the class c is being announced, specifically to your second provider Sprint.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:25:34 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1402139"><b>jwhitecs</b></A> : which would mean your second provider Sprint is not announcing your class C at all.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:13:58 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1402139"><b>jwhitecs</b></A> : well, if class C 204.120.207.0 is the prefix in question then as shown below its only being announced by one of your providers (road runner/twcable AS11426).<br><br>route-server>show ip bgp regexp _32913$<br>BGP table version is 2321232, local router ID is 12.0.1.28<br>Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid, > best, i - internal,<br>              S Stale<br>Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete<br><br>   Network          Next Hop            Metric LocPrf Weight Path<br>*  204.120.207.0    12.123.13.241                          0 7018 3356 11426 32913 i]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:11:33 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/168864"><b>sporkme</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  rolande <A HREF="/useremail/u/635348"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Depending on the original provider who allocated the netblock in question, one ISP may be aggregating the route as part of a larger block. The second ISP is advertising the more specific prefix and thus ends up getting all the traffic. Does that sound close?<br> </div>That sure works... :)  There's not much info in the original post, I was assuming he had his own AS and netblock, but who knows...]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 02:27:48 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/635348"><b>rolande</b></A> : Depending on the original provider who allocated the netblock in question, one ISP may be aggregating the route as part of a larger block. The second ISP is advertising the more specific prefix and thus ends up getting all the traffic. Does that sound close?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:21:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/168864"><b>sporkme</b></A> : Can you clarify this part?<br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by pdk :</small><br><br>Neither of our ISP's have our routes configured properly<br> </div>Are you announcing your routes via BGP or are your ISPs handling this?  Can you explain your setup in a bit more detail?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:00:33 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : Thanks for all the replies everyone,<br><br>BGP is definitely the right solution for what I'm doing, I do not question that. This however is my first implementation of it in a production environment so I'm still learning. I think I found the problem. Neither of our ISP's have our routes configured properly, neither one knows about the other and right now, whoever comes up first is the preferred route regardless of how many prepends I have on the AS path. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 19:14:45 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/168864"><b>sporkme</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  carp <A HREF="/useremail/u/712841"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>You can try and get around/alleviate this with DNS or an advanced device like a Radware Linkproof(if still around) or devices from F5.<br> </div>While BGP may be damped to prevent harm, DNS is downright unpredictable.  BGP is the proper solution.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:06:19 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/712841"><b>carp</b></A> : You can try and get around/alleviate this with DNS or an advanced device like a Radware Linkproof(if still around) or devices from F5. I know for sure that Radware would use DNS to properly get the traffic where you want it. You may need to ask for an additional IP allocation so that you have enough addresses.  There are also many other advantages to using the advanced devices.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:16:22 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/635348"><b>rolande</b></A> : Most routers will use route caching for existing traffic flows, especially provider's large Internet aggregation routers. If you have a reconverge event with multiple paths for the same route, even though BGP updates properly, existing traffic flows may continue to flow down the backup path until they age out, unless the route cache is cleared. That is completely out of your control. ISP's do not do this as any BGP route flap event may cause a major route cache instability which usually triggers high cpu utilization on routers.<br><br>If your AS path prepend works under normal circumstances, then it will work once you reconverge. But, it will take time for you to start seeing traffic fall back over to the primary path. Fast failover and fallback can be deadly to your network. When you get trapped in a circuit flapping situation that you can't get recovered from, both yours and the ISP router's pay the price. ISP's frown severely on this when one customer's issue can bring down many other customers.<br><br>Remember that BGP is still a Distance Vector protocol underneath it all just with advanced metrics. It still takes time for reconvergence to fully occur throughout the network.<br><small>--<br>Ignorance is temporary...stupidity lasts forever!<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.thewaystation.com/" >www.thewaystation.com/</A> <br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://blog.thewaystation.com/" >blog.thewaystation.com/</A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/168864"><b>sporkme</b></A> : Pick a looking glass and see what your routes look like there.  Do you see two paths?  Do you see the prepends on one of them?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : So far, our ISP has been ZERO help when contacting them regarding issues such as this, I basically have to nail down the exact problem and tell them what they need to change before they will do anything, thats why I ask, I'm not sure I follow where you are going with this... can you be more specific?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:27:42 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/676954"><b>aryoba</b></A> : If this is Internet traffic, then you need to use BGP looking glass to check the BGP table from transit provider perspective. You can use the following link to find most suitable looking glass site.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="/faq/cisco">Cisco Forum FAQ</A> &raquo;<A HREF="/faq/14700">How your ISP annouce your subnet via BGP to the Internet: BGP Looking Glass</A><br><br>You also need to work with your ISP (AS 400 and AS 500 administrator) to check their BGP table.<br><br>These are preliminary steps to verify each other's BGP table.<br><br>You may also need to use the ISP BGP community list to set your and ISP's Local Preferences and AS Path Prepend.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : Currently I work for a company that owns their own Class C. We have an AS number, two routers and two ISPs. Router 1 has a fiber connection with bandwidth up to 10Mb/s. Router 2 has 2 T1' bonded for bandwidth around 3Mb/s. I have prepended AS path on Router 2 so as to appear to have a longer AS path so that Router1 is the preferred path for incoming traffic. This is indeed working. In the event my fiber connection goes down on Router1, Traffice is then forwarded to the next and only other advertised route, Router2. However, when Router1's fiber connection comes back to life, All traffic still remains to flow via our backup route on Router 2. Am i missing something in my config? Or perhaps, should i be configuring my routers completely different in order to accomplish this? <br><br>Router 1 Config (10.10.10.3):<br><br>router bgp 300<br> no synchronization<br> bgp log-neighbor-changes<br> network 10.10.10.0<br> neighbor 1.2.2.101 remote-as 500<br> neighbor 1.2.2.101 password *****************<br> neighbor 1.2.2.101 prefix-list default in<br> neighbor 1.2.2.101 prefix-list aggregate out<br> neighbor 10.10.10.1 remote-as 300<br> neighbor 10.10.10.1 next-hop-self<br> no auto-summary<br>!<br>!<br>ip as-path access-list 15 permit ^$<br>!<br>!<br>ip prefix-list aggregate seq 5 permit 10.10.10.0/24<br>!<br>ip prefix-list default seq 5 permit 0.0.0.0/0<br>logging trap debugging<br>logging 10.10.10.16<br>access-list 1 permit 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.255<br>snmp-server community cas-snmp-secure RO<br>snmp-server enable traps tty<br>!<br>route-map localonly permit 10<br> match as-path 10<br><br>ROUTER 2 (10.10.10.1):<br>!<br>router bgp 300<br> no synchronization<br> bgp log-neighbor-changes<br> network 10.10.10.0<br> neighbor 3.3.3.4 remote-as 400<br> neighbor 3.3.3.4 version 4<br> neighbor 3.3.3.4 prefix-list sprintin in<br> neighbor 3.3.3.4 route-map localonly out<br> neighbor 10.10.10.3 remote-as 32913<br> neighbor 10.10.10.3 next-hop-self<br> no auto-summary<br>!<br>ip classless<br>!<br>ip as-path access-list 10 permit ^$<br>!<br>no ip http server<br>ip http authentication local<br>no ip http secure-server<br>!<br>!<br>ip prefix-list sprintin seq 5 permit 0.0.0.0/0<br><br>route-map localonly permit 10<br> match as-path 10<br> set as-path prepend 300 300 300]]></description>
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