ztmike
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They got ALOT to add yet if their only at 72 (which is alot btw)
Glad to see someone is doing it. |
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dvd536
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| said by ztmike  :They got ALOT to add yet if their only at 72 (which is alot btw) Glad to see someone is doing it. Even if it is only HD-LITE.
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Fubar
join:2001-02-20
Phoenix, AZ
| said by dvd536 :said by ztmike :They got ALOT to add yet if their only at 72 (which is alot btw) Glad to see someone is doing it. Even if it is only HD-LITE. It isn't HD-Lite anymore as long as you have a new Mpeg4 receiver. |
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David803sc
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Charleston, SC | They are still hd-lite even with MPEG-4 worse than that most of these new channels are in stretch-O-vision which really sucks. |
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| Ah - the "HD-Lite" naysayers....
You can't prove they're HD-Lite.
And I can't prove they're not.
Nobody has yet been able to "break the stream" to find out what exactly the resolution and bitrates are. Certainly, it's only a matter of time before there is proof one way or the other. The semi-official position is that the networks are 1920x1080 and locals are 1440x1080. Based on side-by-side comparisons of a cable provider and D* - they look the same.
As for "stretch-o-vision" - that's not DirecTV's fault. They're a re-broadcaster - passing on the content as it is provided to them. The guilty parties are the specific channels/network providers themselves - nothing D* can do about that. |
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David803sc
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1 edit | Actually there is hardware and software than can view the bitrate and resolution etc, of both DirecTV and DISH and the findings are posted on many reliable forums, DirecTV uses 1280 X 1080i on most of it's channels DISH is using 1440 X 1080i on most of it's HD Channels, bitrate various constantly based on many factors. You need to check your facts before you make posts about things you obviously know nothing about.
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1 edit | Please feel free to supply any link to "the facts" showing where someone has measured bitrate and resolution of D*'s MPEG4 HD channel(s) off the D10 satellite (i.e. the "new national HD channels). |
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partysource
join:2000-11-25
Phoenix, AZ | reply to David803sc
I have the new HR20 and this is not HD-Lite
I am very impressed with the quality! |
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cbrigante2
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| said by partysource :I have the new HR20 and this is not HD-Lite I am very impressed with the quality! Same here. It seems the only ones saying HD Lite are the ones who don't have the service. They look great. Now if we could only get the broadcasters to start delivering on the HD (here's looking at you TBSHD and SciFiHD). |
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jjeffeory
join:2002-12-04
USA | reply to dvd536
WTF? Looks pretty good to me & I have had FiosTV service with HD. |
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jjeffeory
join:2002-12-04
USA | reply to David803sc
Most are not. Some are... Do you even have the service or do you have Dish Network? There are a few bad offenders. TBS, USA. |
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jjeffeory
join:2002-12-04
USA | reply to David803sc
Show links with CURRENT information. And yell at each station. The stations is who decides what gets stretch or not. Some channels have done it right ( SciFi HD), others suck. Even others sometimes suck and sometimes are okay. |
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jjeffeory
join:2002-12-04
USA | reply to cbrigante2
SciFi Friday is in HD. Atlantis, Bionic Woman, Flash... It's a start. At least they don't crop and stretch... Everything seems like it's in the aspect ratio it was intended to be in. That's all we can hope for. |
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gofigureguy
@turner.com | reply to jjeffeory
that's not necessarily TBS' fault any more than it is DirecTV... you can't make gold out of silver, you can't necessarily broadcast a 15 year old episode of seinfeld as HD.... |
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treeman
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The bitrate of Directv's new MPEG4 broadcast has not yet been determined, not with hardware or software as David803 some how belives. There a strong rumors that it is in fact 1920x1080 as Directv is in court being sued for false advertizing on thier past bitrates with MPEG2 incoding |
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stonecoldohy
join:2001-11-22
New York, NY | reply to gofigureguy
Actually Seinfeld was filmed on film, you know like a movie, so once upconverted to HD it will look as good as most movies. |
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cbrigante2
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| said by stonecoldohy :Actually Seinfeld was filmed on film, you know like a movie, so once upconverted to HD it will look as good as most movies. I can forgive a Seinfeld as not being HD, but when you show a movie like Shrek and they call it HD when the station is actually upconverting the SD version of the film, it looks pretty bad. |
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1 edit | reply to treeman
Correct.
And the silence is deafening, isn't it ?
Careful - you might be making quote:
posts about things you obviously know nothing about.
Which would put you in company with me....
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