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DJdynamite

@comcast.net

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Re: Grokster decision will be Usenets downfall

yep, and another step in the direction of reaching their 99% goal. By going after individuals/publicly accessible file trading sites, their intent is to push illegal file trading to limited spaces that aren't user friendly by the masses (like private irc). The RIAA/labels know they can't eliminate piracy, but they can live with it (privately, not publicly) if it's low- hence their 99%/1% legal/illegal download goal.

sm2016a

join:2004-03-02
Belleville, IL

You are exactly right. It will never be completely gone but it will be in certain spots where only certain people can access it. It is that way to a small extent now but the public side has drawn too much attention and now it is paying the consequences for it.



vzw emp

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reply to DJdynamite
I have no sympathy for the **AA's. They may win the case versus Usenet but this will not have an affect on p2p. We've seen this time and time again. **AA sue's, wins in court, p2p use still increases. All that will happen is piracy will shift to other methods (just like Napster and Kazaa users moved to BT).

Litigation will not make up for the **AA's failing business model. People want to be able to get their music in a manner that's cheap and convenient, and that's what p2p offers. So far the **AA's have not grasped this concept. Traditional music channel's are dying out. Who wants to drive to a record store, fight through a crowd and search through dozens of racks of CD's and movies to find what you're looking for? Who wants to deal with traffic at a crowded mall? Who wants to hope they even have the CD/movie you want in stock? It's a lot easier to go to your computer, browse what's available (just about every song or movie ever created) and purchase it at your leisure.

In every business it's the companies who adapt who thrive. I can do my banking when and where I want, I can watch my favorite TV shows when I want, I can even get a meal when I want (even if I get hungry at 4am). So why don't these guys get that I want to get my music and movies on terms that are best for me?

PS: If you think that people won't pay for this stuff, explain iTunes, Amazon, even eBay.


quatrix
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join:2005-02-11
Davie, FL
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said by vzw emp :

In every business it's the companies who adapt who thrive. I can do my banking when and where I want, I can watch my favorite TV shows when I want, I can even get a meal when I want (even if I get hungry at 4am). So why don't these guys get that I want to get my music and movies on terms that are best for me?
But if I don't like the bank's hours, that doesn't give me the right to rob it.


TScheisskopf
World News Trust

join:2005-02-13
Belvidere, NJ

reply to vzw emp
Man, you nailed it. When litigation is identified as a revenue source, as apparently the **AA's have done, with little done to identify the new marketing and channel realities in the music and movie business, something is broken.

Jimmy Iovine was a prophet.


Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA

reply to quatrix

said by quatrix:

said by vzw emp :

In every business it's the companies who adapt who thrive. I can do my banking when and where I want, I can watch my favorite TV shows when I want, I can even get a meal when I want (even if I get hungry at 4am). So why don't these guys get that I want to get my music and movies on terms that are best for me?
But if I don't like the bank's hours, that doesn't give me the right to rob it.
Nor was that his assertion, in which case, why not reply to the root thread instead.


james

join:2001-02-26
CWCville USA

reply to quatrix
That's the stupidest thing I've ever read. How is downloading music comparable to robbing a bank? If you rob a bank you are taking something physical, tangible, and depriving someone else of the use of what you stole. What kind of messed up mind do you have that enables you to read your post and not want to kill yourself.


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