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kudos:4 | About Time This was not what Newsgroups were ever for.
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hiatus | said by hobgoblin:This was not what Newsgroups were ever for. Absolutely... I still remember the days when an ISP could have a one or two T1s for all of their customers and still be able to offer news service. Usenet has been abused so much now that it requires your Usenet servers to be located in data centers with far more than a T1.
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Are we using the internet in general for what it was originally designed for? Are we using computers the same way as they were originally designed for? There was a time many years ago when it was said the whole world would need only 5 computers..Now look where we are. Heck, cable networks were never "for" internet access. Things especially in the technology world, evolve.
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hobgoblinSortof AgoblinPremium
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kudos:4 | said by swintec:Are we using the internet in general for what it was originally designed for? Are we using computers the same way as they were originally designed for? There was a time many years ago when it was said the whole world would need only 5 computers..Now look where we are. Heck, cable networks were never "for" internet access. Things especially in the technology world, evolve. I hear exactly what you are saying but as technology has progressed so have the applications available. I maintain that usenet serves its purpose as a text bulletin board. It was never meant to be one of the last bastions for the "I want it free brigade"
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said by hobgoblin:This was not what Newsgroups were ever for. I welcome this. Hob I dropped Usenet a long time ago for several reasons... binaries was one of the major ones, though.
Moderation and spam issues aside, Usenet was an awesome means of group discussion. I had no trouble accessing very high volume (1000's of messages per day) groups, tracking threads, etc... all on dialup. I used all sorts of clients but ended up with Gravity for the last few years I was a regular. It's only been recently that I've begun to see web forums as being even close to as comfortable as Usenet.
Binaries always struck me as a very ugly kludge... encoding binary data into text, breaking up into discrete posts? Lame.
I'm also sure many problems with verified content are long fixed (moderation, etc) but the massive ISP infrastructure required to accept incoming feeds, store/etc the content and provide bandwidth to readers was insane 5 years ago. I can only imagine what it is now! IIRC, a few of the popular feeds were each MANY times greater than the sum total of all text groups combined. How many ISPs even bother anymore on their own? How many farm things out to 3rd party providers? Seems to me, one nice thing about Usenet was its ubiquity... with that going away, it's only a matter of time before the few remaining shops close or morph into something entirely different.
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