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amungus
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reply to Maggs

Re: What about pings, packet storms and Cable modem data

Well said.

Personally, I think it should all be unlimited, at whatever 'speed' package you opt for.
A person on DSL "lite" (~512-768kbps) should be able to use that available line at ALL times, at full blast. Same goes for the person on turbo cable - it should be available at ALL times, full blast.

The problem is that people are used to thinking in terms of a circuit switched network - that is, if they can talk all day and all night on their phone, that the same rules should apply to their internet service as well. People generally believe that if they're paying for "always on" "broadband" service, that it should damn well be available at ALL times, at full speed.
Not that everyone is constantly doing that, but the notion remains that they should be able to, should they so desire.

Before all the "get a business line" people come around, let me also point out that such plans come with much more than simply guaranteed levels of bandwidth - SLA's, multiple IP addresses, and more expensive equipment to connect all of it.................

Another problem is that now we have such connections at our disposal. Ten years ago, every home user had dialup, some had ISDN, but most of those home users at ~53kbps could be online all day, all night - nobody cared. If you paid for unlimited dialup, you got just that - un-fraking-limited dialup. Sure, it'd disconnect randomly, and could be troublesome to reconnect during busy times, but generally, I don't recall anyone being upset about "bandwidth hogs"

That system worked pretty well, and bandwidth was still oversold sometimes, but overall, dialup users could expect that their ISP would leave them alone. Nobody cared. You could download all day and all night at ~53kbps, no problem.

(A)DSL, since it runs on dedicated circuits, is generally also much more suited to be used constantly. Bandwidth may be oversold, but in theory, users should still be able to get full speed all day long. It also seems that you sure don't hear much about DSL providers "capping" people......

Either way, people expect that their line should work at full blast, all the time. That's just how it's been ingrained into their minds because that's how it's worked in the past.

It's not up to US to change, it's up to the ISP's. They should be able to handle it, or they should change their packages - simple as that. Either offer a faster package, and be prepared to handle it, or keep your speeds the same until the infrastructure (and money flow) can handle it...

Obviously, even DSLR links that most ISP's are doing fine! If they're doing fine, they've likely also been keeping up with upgrading their equipment. Whether that's to handle more users, more speed, or both doesn't matter. What matters is that they've had the ability to do either or both, and it's their network to do with what they will.
If they can't understand that most people have it in their head the way they do, then perhaps they should invest a little money in surveying people.....
Fortunately, it appears that this article confirms that most people don't want anything like a "pay per byte" plan, and for many good reasons

whocares0
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Re:My Questions R simple

broadband industry is built on doesn't take kindly to the power user,who makes up a small percentage of an ISP's user base but consumes the majority of its bandwidth. Like gluttons at an all you can eat buffet,these users flock to the advertised promise of unlimited bandwidth,stuffing their hungry maws with porn, DVD rips and all the ABBA discographies they can consume.
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1, Then WHY is it so hard to just raise the rates for these Power users,like raising [b]the prices of cigarettes or the tax on cigarettes?
instead of hurting EVERYONE inside the USA, china has a limit on what they allow their citizen to be able to search on the Internet,also bet China & other countries don't have many "Power users".
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2,Why shouldn't Power Users be "capped out" or limited?
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But what happens when video services turn everyone into a bandwidth hog? In addition to a flood of legitimate and pirated content for download, there looms services like DirecTV's upcoming broadband VOD system that allows users to hook their broadband connection up to their DVR to download high-definition content.
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simple,
then slow down the D/L time,again cap out or limit how much data & how fast it can be d/l.
high for business's to get by on,slower for home users.
Jazzy
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Some people do not like nice & courteous people on the internet,simply because THEY ARE NOT ONE THEMSELVES


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