cooperaaaron
join:2004-04-10
Joliet, IL | Or...
build some type of enclosure to cover it depending where it is, keep it tasteful. |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here
| The far and away majority are put in out of the way places or fenced in. But Chicago politicians just want more graft from ATT so they'll rail on them. They have more money than homeless people and less local political power than developers (both of which are far greater at ruining the scenery. |
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kapil
The Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL | West Chicago is not the same as Chicago.
»www.westchicago.org |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | Either way...the point about their demands and purity of interests remain. |
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kapil
The Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL
| Not really. If you've seen some existing installation of the ATT boxes, you'd see why everyone is upset about them being placed in their back yard or community.
Not to mention that AT&T and its predecessor companies have a long history of screwing the consumer...especially Illinoisans.
This is not a political issue...the City is just obeying the will of the people.
West Chicago is served pretty well by existing 6Mbps ATT DSL, so we don't need Fiber for the same speed but with an extra side of monopoly fries.
There is also Comcast for both broadband and TV. Satellite for TV.
Covad and XO for DSL. Sprint Broadband Direct and soon Sprint XOHM for wireless Internet...not to mention the 5 or so independent wireless ISPs and the omnipresent WiFi.
I'd love to have more competition, more innovative services, cheaper prices etc. But what AT&T is peddling is none of those things....it's 6Mbps Internet, with second-rate IPTV...and it cuts out the last remaining shreds of CLEC competition. No thanks.
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emptywig
Huh? What?
Premium
join:2002-08-05
Pasadena, TX
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I agree with you. Most of them here are in pretty unubtrusive places. But as far as I'm concerned, that just gives the companies less reason to object to finding reasonable alternatives to the troublesome placements.
If the company could wire the whole city up and only had to place ONE of these big-ass ugly boxes in someone's front yard, I still think that person should be compensated for the decrease in their property value (either cash or free service to the premises regardless of owner) or have the opportunity to decline.
wig
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Old_Grouch
Don't just sit there silly DO something
Premium
join:2004-05-26
Greenwood, IN
clubs:
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Demand what the good folks in Milwaukee got! May not be as small as some would want, but neighbors have stopped caring for some reason. 
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | reply to emptywig
AT&T pays for it's land. Quite well too. |
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emptywig
Huh? What?
Premium
join:2002-08-05
Pasadena, TX | What? |
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fiber_man
Things Happen For A Reason
Premium
join:2001-01-27
Port Saint Lucie, FL | reply to kapil
Think about IT
These companies that you talk about don't work without connecting to At&t at some point to get you to the internet.
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kapil
The Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL | AT&T, despite what it likes to think, not the entire Internet. There are plenty of backbone providers.
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insomniac
Oh Yeah
Premium
join:2002-09-22
Naperville, IL
clubs: | reply to bogey780
Re: Or...
Not when it's throwing these boxes in front of people's houses in public right-of-way, which is the issue at hand.
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | The right of way requires a large space to place one. They're not squeezing these into 2ft wide routes. Almost every place I've seen them placed has been purchased land. |
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emptywig
Huh? What?
Premium
join:2002-08-05
Pasadena, TX
| That's complete bollocks.
Easements around here are about 6-8 feet wide, sometimes more.
AT&T is not purchasing land for each of those boxes. Ain't happening. If you think it would be expensive for 6hem to bury, they could NEVER do it if they had to buy each little piece of land.
wig
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