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Re: [OT] EZ Pass hoax or real?
I found this petition to stop the use of ezpass in nyc:
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The Dv8or
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clubs: | Online petitions are useless. They almost never work, because its too easy to click on a link and add your name, showing a lack of conviction.
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NYC driver
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It sounds like a hoax, but just so everyone is clear about the red light cameras.... (at least in NYC)
If your car passes through certain intersections (ones equipped with a camera) when the light is red, a red light camera takes a picture or pictures and a summons is sent to the registered owner of the vehicle. It is not a moving violation. There are no points. The camera is not meant to take the picture of the driver. Rather, it is meant to take a picture or pictures of the car and the license plate. If you do not dispute the "violation", you simply pay a fine and its over. It does not show up as points or as any type of infraction on your license. Its a deterrent/revenue generator only. You can dispute it, but unless your car was stolen or you can prove...some emergency or some other fantastic line of B.S., the owner of that vehicle is going to pay that fine. |
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PokerFramescom
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It is a hoax, everyone that has EZ-Pass also has a silver bag when you stick it in, your EZ Pass can not be read.
HOAX. |
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Subaru
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Murbike
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If they are going to start this in NY, then just North of Albany on the Thruway is a good place to start. I have relatives further North, and have gotten bagged a couple of times. They set the limit to 65, then drop it to 55 randomly with minimal signage.
That being said, trying to bust people by using the EZ Pass would probably be the least efficient way to raise money. They have to spend a buttload of $$ to implement this system. Once people get wise to it, they will find ways to defeat the system. Someone already said that the tags are sent in a mylar bag. If that's all you need to defeat these tags, then setting up the sensors would be a waste of time.
Also, what about the people who borrow the tags? I borrow my inlaws tag once in a while. What happens when I'm perceived as speeding? They send it to my inlaws? A person cannot be held responsible for an infraction unless they are there, right? |
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said by Subaru  :i threw mine in the trash Threw what in the trash? The EZ pass tag?
They will bill you for it eventually since they hold a deposit on your account unless you meant something else? |
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Boomerang86
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said by Subaru :i threw mine in the trash You can get another read prevention bag sent to you. Log in to your account online, select the VEHICLE/TAG MAINTENANCE tab then click on Tag Strips/Read Prevention Bags. You should be able to get as many bags as you already have tags issued.
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Compbl
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It's currently used on Long Island for the new system on the Northern State Parkway. If you have seen the big blue signs that tell you how many minutes until you arrive at the 106/107 exit for example.
Information to put that time up is by tracking EZ-Pass tags. |
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IMB
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I think the OP (and many others in the thread) are confusing the microwave vehicle counters with EZ-Pass detectors (they do look similar). These devices are counting vehicles (they're a simple radar-like device) and how fast they're moving. This is how things like Google Maps get traffic data. It also helps highway departments plan maintenance and capacity upgrades.
We have lots of them in the KC area along with pavement sensors, but they count aggregate data, not individually identified vehicles. |
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said by Murbike :
If they are going to start this in NY, then just North of Albany on the Thruway is a good place to start. I have relatives further North, and have gotten bagged a couple of times. They set the limit to 65, then drop it to 55 randomly with minimal signage. Ummm, no. The entire Northway is 65 mph except for the first 10 miles from Albany. The "Speed Limit 55" signs are very obvious, with florescent red diamonds on top of the signs when entering the area heading south. |
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sorry I was typing that while walking, I meant the silver plastic bag the transponders come in. |
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| said by Subaru :sorry I was typing that while walking, I meant the silver plastic bag the transponders come in. LOL that makes sense now....  |
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The apparent hoax may be a misinterpretation of a real story, check out - »www.newsday.com/news/local/trans···nt.story
Twelve signs have been placed strategically along the parkway, both eastbound and westbound in Suffolk and Nassau counties. The project cost $450,000 and could be expanded to other Long Island roadways.
Travel times are calculated based on information collected from E-ZPass transmit readers that are affixed to overhead roadway signs.
These devices read the E-ZPasses of cars traveling the parkway and then averages the time it takes them to travel between the transmit readers. That information from the E-ZPass device is encrypted and processed and, within minutes, it is posted on the large blue roadway signs.
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clubs: | I think they do that now for the GWB right? at least I remember seeing a new sign and it was saying from this point to the bridge it was XX amount of time to get to the bridge. |
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| said by Subaru :I think they do that now for the GWB right? at least I remember seeing a new sign and it was saying from this point to the bridge it was XX amount of time to get to the bridge. I think so. Though, eventually EZ-Pass may be mandated in new vehicles, and will be used to monitor our travels. I'd be surprised if within a decade it isn't used routinely to give vehicles fines for speeding. I just don't think we are quite there yet.
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Big Government
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The speed limit for new york city is 30 mph let everyone drive at or under the 30 mpf limit the city will be a bvig parking lot. The speed limits are set low for 2 reasons (1)Insurance companies makes a huge profit by raising rates for speeding tickets and (2) revenue for NYC.
get rid of the TBTA. |
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TechSupportChick
@dell.com | reply to Midak
As a tech support agent who often deals with Verizon customers, you have nothing to worry about. The system will fail sooner or later. My bet is on sooner. |
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thebajaguy
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EZ-Pass is a multi-state system administered by a non-government entity (Company). That in itself is a level of isolation that makes it unlikely for you to get ticket from them. They aren't the police, and the equipment is not issued or administered by the 'state'. The entity (state, highway commission, transit authority) buys their services to collect tolls.
That being said, it isn't beyond the power of states to build a system based on the concepts of EZ-Pass. It also isn't likely to be considered 'fair' as far as violations are handed out since it would target in-state drivers only. I think that kind of unfair targeting is already in legal trouble in the Virginia area - I think there was a Washington Post article about something related to that topic this summer. I don't know the outcome, though. |
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Re: EZ Pass hoax or real?
said by Bobcat :said by Chinabound :Back then, I believe NJTP would check the time on your card and possibly cite you for speeding. Nope, they never did that. I just spent an hour trying to find information about it, but I cannot.
You may want to check with some of your elders that drove it back in the early 60s. I'll bet money they will say it happened. My grandmother and one of their workers who was ticketed this way (he lives across the street from her still) said they did.
No offense, but that carries a little more weight with me than your post. |
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