Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? in New York http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19286093 en Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:55:51 EDT Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:55:51 EDT Re: [OT] EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19412444 anon : I want to thank you for all your comments, they are really quite good. But, getting to the point: the technology isn't here, yet. Look at the size of your current transmitter - the EZPass device itself. Please notice its size including its thickness. The writer of the warning is claiming that using RF the State of NY has been able to minaturize the device - which requires a battery - to one small enough to be embedded into that sticker on your windshield AND that the device can be read at significant speeds AND distances. I love sci-fi! And this is just the type of thing we sci-fi addicts love to read about. And I do believe at some point in the future some technology allowing this to happen will occur - but now is not the time. By the way, if the state can do this, it would more profitable to sell it to business - just look up RF in Google or your favorite search engine.
(Yes, I have gotten speeding warnings involving tolls - and EZPass. So it is possible. The technology is quite good - a high speed photo of the license plate is taken - the car's owner gets a warning - you lose your EZPass privledges.)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19412444 Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:20:50 EDT Re: [OT] EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19411216 anon : »www.9wsyr.com/content/news/your_···bb024700

»urbanlegends.about.com/od/automo···pass.htm]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19411216 Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:59:08 EDT Re: [OT] EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19362645 anon : Seems the easy thing to do is to remove the EZ Pass from your window until you get to a toll. That way, if you pass any of these supposed trackers, it'll have nothing to track!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19362645 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:25:48 EDT Re: [OT] EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19360495 anon : Definitely a hoax. I have an EZ-Pass, regularly drive between Plattsburgh and Albany (151 miles of the Northway) at speeds that would generate roadside conversations with the friendly neighborhood trooper. I have never received a New York ticket of ANY kind in mail, though I have had a few roadside conversations!

Speed sensors (if they exist) aren't what you need to worry about on the Northway (the free part of I-87), its the NYSP patrols and speed traps. Tip: Wait until a Canadian doing a good number passes you, give him about a minute or two lead, then enjoy the ride. I don't push my luck on the Thruway -- Troop T has it covered too well. Construction zones are another place where you don't want to push your luck.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19360495 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:15:39 EDT Re: [OT] EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19357170 anon : Just a bit of legal information for you all. Last time I checked any ticket that is NOT issued be the officer that actually saw you violating a law is worthless. There have been lots of attempts to set up systems to monitor speeding vehicles, record the licence plate and issue a ticket but the main problem is a drivers licence is personal and there is no way to detect who the actual driver is in order to give the ticket to. Its not like a parking ticket that just goes against who ever owns the car. This system they are putting into place is strictly for safety purposes at this time. If anyone ever gets one of these so called speeding tickets do not pay it. Take it to court and plead not guilty. The ticket will be thrown out simply because there is no issuing officer to represent the law.

Trust me this is a HOAX.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19357170 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:30:07 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19357262 anon : just so you know if you ever get a red light ticket all you have to do is plead not guilty and it will get thrown out once the judge reviews the case. reason being is that there has to be an issuing officer that actually sees you breaking the law to validate the ticket. the tickets are sent out because they know most people will pay them without taking the time to plead guilty. Lastlt, i dont think they issus many of them anymore.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19357262 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:39:58 EDT Re: [OT] EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19344327 Midak : I doubt it too for the same reasons but the possibility is there. I posted this here in hopes somoene would find a link proving it to be false.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19344327 Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:34:28 EDT Re: [OT] EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19344301 ruscorp :
said by Midak See Profile :

There are also no readers on the Bronx River Parkway for toll collections but that does not mean they could not install them for other purposes. Also, the article suggests they may install these devices into the reg. stickers. As for Verizon, they could be used to relay data from the readers to cell towers. That said, I can not find any legit site to back this up or debunk it.
I just highly doubt the legitimacy of this article. If "they" wanted to hand out tickets I'm sure they could have already done so on the GSP, NJTP and Thruway.

Lord knows I'd owe EZ-Pass a ton of money.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19344301 Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:30:58 EDT Re: [OT] EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19344230 Midak : There are also no readers on the Bronx River Parkway for toll collections but that does not mean they could not install them for other purposes. Also, the article suggests they may install these devices into the reg. stickers. As for Verizon, they could be used to relay data from the readers to cell towers. That said, I can not find any legit site to back this up or debunk it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19344230 Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:20:08 EDT Re: [OT] EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19343690 ruscorp : Come on guys, this is clearly a hoax.

Anyone who drives knows the Thruway does not extend past Albany onto the Northway. Ergo, there are no tolls on the Northway. The road is free and has no EZ-Pass receivers.

And lets say pigs fly and this is true. When you get off the Thruway in Albany put your EZ-Pass back in its static bag and place it in your glove compartment. Now the tag cannot be read.

Not only that, but I fail to see a business relationship with Verizon, NYS and EZ-Pass. This sounds fishy in itself.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19343690 Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:44:13 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19343478 Chinabound : So you won't even ask them?

I don't know - I am only telling you what I was told from two people I trust completely, that were driving it 50 years ago. I wasn't driving until 1975.
So before this goes any further, just ask your elderly relatives.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19343478 Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:02:23 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19343435 Bobcat : Example for a regular commute from the areas of exit 1 to 18:
• 1. Enter at interchange 1, take ticket.
• 2. Exit at 18, say you lost ticket, pay toll for trip from 1 to 18, which is what you would have paid anyway.
• 3. On the way home, enter at 18, take ticket.
• 4. Exit at 2, give ticket from the morning, pay toll from 1 to 2 even though you traveled from 18 to 2. At this point, you still have a ticket from entering at 18.
• 5. Next day, enter at 1, take ticket.
• 6. Exit at 16, give ticket from previous day, pay toll from 18 to 16 even though you traveled from 1 to 16.
• 7. On the way home, enter at 18, take ticket.
• 8. Exit at 2, give ticket from the morning, pay toll from 1 to 2 even though you traveled from 18 to 2. At this point, you still have a ticket from entering at 18.
• 9. Repeat steps 5-8 forever.

Accurate timing information wasn't available until they added the magnetic stripes, because the old machines were not synchronized. So there was no way to prevent abuses like the above or to measure vehicles' speeds.

The other reason you can't give speeding tickets based on toll plaza timing is that the tickets have to issued indicating the specific municipality in which the violation occurred. With toll plaza timing, you know the average speed, but 1) you don't know in which municipality the violation occurred, and 2) you don't know in which of the many municipalities to issue the ticket.

And I have relatives over 80 years old, but what you're talking about never happened.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19343435 Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:52:25 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19343345 Chinabound : Well, I'm not sure how anyone would get two cards other than telling them you lost the one you had, resulting in paying the full fare, which takes away any savings.

Just do me a small favor please. I have no idea how old you are, but if you have any relatives older than 70, ask them about it. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19343345 Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:31:50 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19343302 Bobcat :
said by Chinabound See Profile :

said by Bobcat See Profile :

said by Chinabound See Profile :

Back then, I believe NJTP would check the time on your card and possibly cite you for speeding.
Nope, they never did that.
I just spent an hour trying to find information about it, but I cannot.
That's because they never did it.

In fact, it wasn't until the magnetic stripes were added to the tickets that they were able to stop people from flip-flopping two different cards in order to travel the full length of the Turnpike but pay the toll for going only 1 exit. I can describe how to do this if you want (doesn't work anymore).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19343302 Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:20:02 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19343098 Chinabound :
said by Bobcat See Profile :

said by Chinabound See Profile :

Back then, I believe NJTP would check the time on your card and possibly cite you for speeding.
Nope, they never did that.
I just spent an hour trying to find information about it, but I cannot.
You may want to check with some of your elders that drove it back in the early 60s. I'll bet money they will say it happened. My grandmother and one of their workers who was ticketed this way (he lives across the street from her still) said they did.
No offense, but that carries a little more weight with me than your post. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19343098 Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:26:22 EDT Re: [OT] EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19341925 thebajaguy : EZ-Pass is a multi-state system administered by a non-government entity (Company). That in itself is a level of isolation that makes it unlikely for you to get ticket from them. They aren't the police, and the equipment is not issued or administered by the 'state'. The entity (state, highway commission, transit authority) buys their services to collect tolls.

That being said, it isn't beyond the power of states to build a system based on the concepts of EZ-Pass. It also isn't likely to be considered 'fair' as far as violations are handed out since it would target in-state drivers only. I think that kind of unfair targeting is already in legal trouble in the Virginia area - I think there was a Washington Post article about something related to that topic this summer. I don't know the outcome, though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19341925 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 23:21:50 EDT Re: [OT] EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19338000 anon : As a tech support agent who often deals with Verizon customers, you have nothing to worry about. The system will fail sooner or later. My bet is on sooner.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19338000 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 09:48:02 EDT Re: [OT] EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19337674 anon : The speed limit for new york city is 30 mph let everyone drive at or under the 30 mpf limit the city will be a bvig parking lot. The speed limits are set low for 2 reasons (1)Insurance companies makes a huge profit by raising rates for speeding tickets and (2) revenue for NYC.
get rid of the TBTA.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19337674 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 06:11:22 EDT Re: [OT] EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19337469 pandora :
said by Subaru See Profile :

I think they do that now for the GWB right? at least I remember seeing a new sign and it was saying from this point to the bridge it was XX amount of time to get to the bridge.
I think so. Though, eventually EZ-Pass may be mandated in new vehicles, and will be used to monitor our travels. I'd be surprised if within a decade it isn't used routinely to give vehicles fines for speeding. I just don't think we are quite there yet.
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Twelve signs have been placed strategically along the parkway, both eastbound and westbound in Suffolk and Nassau counties. The project cost $450,000 and could be expanded to other Long Island roadways.

Travel times are calculated based on information collected from E-ZPass transmit readers that are affixed to overhead roadway signs.

These devices read the E-ZPasses of cars traveling the parkway and then averages the time it takes them to travel between the transmit readers. That information from the E-ZPass device is encrypted and processed and, within minutes, it is posted on the large blue roadway signs.
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said by Subaru See Profile :

sorry I was typing that while walking, I meant the silver plastic bag the transponders come in.
LOL that makes sense now.... :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19337096 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 00:39:56 EDT Re: [OT] EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19336867 Subaru : sorry I was typing that while walking, I meant the silver plastic bag the transponders come in.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19336867 Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:41:54 EDT Re: [OT] EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19336282 Bobcat :
said by Murbike :

If they are going to start this in NY, then just North of Albany on the Thruway is a good place to start. I have relatives further North, and have gotten bagged a couple of times. They set the limit to 65, then drop it to 55 randomly with minimal signage.
Ummm, no. The entire Northway is 65 mph except for the first 10 miles from Albany. The "Speed Limit 55" signs are very obvious, with florescent red diamonds on top of the signs when entering the area heading south.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19336282 Sat, 27 Oct 2007 21:32:48 EDT Re: [OT] EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19335538 anon : I think the OP (and many others in the thread) are confusing the microwave vehicle counters with EZ-Pass detectors (they do look similar). These devices are counting vehicles (they're a simple radar-like device) and how fast they're moving. This is how things like Google Maps get traffic data. It also helps highway departments plan maintenance and capacity upgrades.

We have lots of them in the KC area along with pavement sensors, but they count aggregate data, not individually identified vehicles.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19335538 Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:38:58 EDT Re: [OT] EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19335187 anon : It's currently used on Long Island for the new system on the Northern State Parkway. If you have seen the big blue signs that tell you how many minutes until you arrive at the 106/107 exit for example.

Information to put that time up is by tracking EZ-Pass tags.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19335187 Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:20:17 EDT Re: [OT] EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19335102 Boomerang86 :
said by Subaru See Profile :

i threw mine in the trash
You can get another read prevention bag sent to you. Log in to your account online, select the VEHICLE/TAG MAINTENANCE tab then click on Tag Strips/Read Prevention Bags. You should be able to get as many bags as you already have tags issued.
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said by Subaru See Profile :

i threw mine in the trash
Threw what in the trash? The EZ pass tag?
They will bill you for it eventually since they hold a deposit on your account unless you meant something else?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19335094 Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:00:48 EDT Re: [OT] EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19335092 anon : If they are going to start this in NY, then just North of Albany on the Thruway is a good place to start. I have relatives further North, and have gotten bagged a couple of times. They set the limit to 65, then drop it to 55 randomly with minimal signage.

That being said, trying to bust people by using the EZ Pass would probably be the least efficient way to raise money. They have to spend a buttload of $$ to implement this system. Once people get wise to it, they will find ways to defeat the system. Someone already said that the tags are sent in a mylar bag. If that's all you need to defeat these tags, then setting up the sensors would be a waste of time.

Also, what about the people who borrow the tags? I borrow my inlaws tag once in a while. What happens when I'm perceived as speeding? They send it to my inlaws? A person cannot be held responsible for an infraction unless they are there, right?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19335092 Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:00:08 EDT Re: [OT] EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19334778 Subaru : i threw mine in the trash]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19334778 Sat, 27 Oct 2007 15:23:35 EDT Re: [OT] EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19334714 anon : It is a hoax, everyone that has EZ-Pass also has a silver bag when you stick it in, your EZ Pass can not be read.

HOAX.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19334714 Sat, 27 Oct 2007 15:08:44 EDT Re: [OT] EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19328701 anon : It sounds like a hoax, but just so everyone is clear about the red light cameras.... (at least in NYC)

If your car passes through certain intersections (ones equipped with a camera) when the light is red, a red light camera takes a picture or pictures and a summons is sent to the registered owner of the vehicle. It is not a moving violation. There are no points. The camera is not meant to take the picture of the driver. Rather, it is meant to take a picture or pictures of the car and the license plate. If you do not dispute the "violation", you simply pay a fine and its over. It does not show up as points or as any type of infraction on your license. Its a deterrent/revenue generator only. You can dispute it, but unless your car was stolen or you can prove...some emergency or some other fantastic line of B.S., the owner of that vehicle is going to pay that fine.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19328701 Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:15:11 EDT Re: [OT] EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19328225 The Dv8or : Online petitions are useless. They almost never work, because its too easy to click on a link and add your name, showing a lack of conviction.
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»72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:god···t=safari]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19328185 Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:45:47 EDT Re: [OT] EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19327239 anon : I performed a search of pending bills in the NY State Senate and Assembly and find nothing about tracking speeders through EZ pass.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19327239 Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:32:00 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19299960 Bobcat :
said by NY Tel See Profile :

This was actually tried on the New Jersey Turnpike about 3 years ago. People were mailed speeding tickets based on travel times between the two points. There was some sort of lawsuit and it was abruptly halted.
Wrong. It was NEVER done. In fact, a columnist for the Bergen Record challenged anyone to show him a ticket issued based on E-ZPass timings, and they'd get a free dinner. No one ever presented such a ticket.

There are a number of reasons why this was NEVER done in New Jersey. I can elaborate on them if you're really interested.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19299960 Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:55:05 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19299903 Bobcat :
said by Chinabound See Profile :

Back then, I believe NJTP would check the time on your card and possibly cite you for speeding.
Nope, they never did that.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19299903 Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:46:07 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19291049 81399672 :
said by evilt00l See Profile :

said by 81399672 See Profile :

it's hoax, this should clue you in "Based upon the distance between the register
> points and the posted speed limit, the state is sending speeding tickets in the mail to the guilty persons."

This how our speeding laws work, in order for speeding ticket to be valid, state must be able to id the driver this in control of the vehicle. Just because you driving a car with easypass do not mean you owe the car. To me this is clearly a hoax.
Not true... back about 15 years ago our car was stolen. about 3 weeks later we received in the mail a speeding ticket from GEORGIA. We lived in Michigan. The ticket was dropped after we sent a copy of our police report but still. And that was 15 years ago.
On whos name? If just plate then what proof did they have it was you who is driving. Innocent till proven guilty is still the way our legal justice system works the last time i checked]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19291049 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:49:31 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19290932 evilt00l : yes very vague on purpose I'm sure. "The US Gov is partnered with Microsoft so that PCs connected to internet and using Google. Will be sending all the information for Verizon customers who like starbucks. To the FBI for monitering, as there was credible intel saying they next terrorist attack will have a cell phone and like coffee." "Big brother is spying on you too!" "Pass this on if you care about personal freedom!"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19290932 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:29:05 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19290924 TOPDAWG : OH poor baby. You got busted for braking the law. My heart bleeds for you. Was it a speed trap or just cops out doing their job at night? You do know cops do work at night too.

My guess is they're manly looking for drunks at night but got you cause well you broke the law. Yep I'm going to go around town tonight and run some red lights I mean why not it's night laws mean nothing at night.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19290924 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:27:39 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19290873 NY Tel :
said by evilt00l See Profile :

Also... What does Verizon a telecom company have anything to do with enforcing speed laws?
I guess some obscure use of their cell sites to transmit the data. Also, they could pay Verizon for connectivity just the same way companies pay them now for T-1, DS3, OC-3 circuits etc. These sensors need to be connected to something to send the "jailbird" notices out.
The Hoaxie post was just worded ambiguously.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19290873 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:18:28 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19290841 evilt00l : Also... What does Verizon a telecom company have anything to do with enforcing speed laws?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19290841 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:14:30 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19290827 evilt00l :
said by 81399672 See Profile :

it's hoax, this should clue you in "Based upon the distance between the register
> points and the posted speed limit, the state is sending speeding tickets in the mail to the guilty persons."

This how our speeding laws work, in order for speeding ticket to be valid, state must be able to id the driver this in control of the vehicle. Just because you driving a car with easypass do not mean you owe the car. To me this is clearly a hoax.
Not true... back about 15 years ago our car was stolen. about 3 weeks later we received in the mail a speeding ticket from GEORGIA. We lived in Michigan. The ticket was dropped after we sent a copy of our police report but still. And that was 15 years ago.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19290827 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:12:00 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19290777 NY Tel : This was actually tried on the New Jersey Turnpike about 3 years ago. People were mailed speeding tickets based on travel times between the two points.

There was some sort of lawsuit and it was abruptly halted.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19290777 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:05:33 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19290756 Subaru : If that was true I would of has so many tickets passing tolls in and around NYS given how fast i drive...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19290756 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:02:03 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19290726 CLNYC :
said by bjl See Profile :

said by CLNYC See Profile :

said by 81399672 See Profile :

it's hoax, this should clue you in "Based upon the distance between the register
> points and the posted speed limit, the state is sending speeding tickets in the mail to the guilty persons."

This how our speeding laws work, in order for speeding ticket to be valid, state must be able to id the driver this in control of the vehicle. Just because you driving a car with easypass do not mean you owe the car. To me this is clearly a hoax.
A red light ticket which is a moving violation sends it to the owner of the car without knowing who actaully passed the red light so the owner is punished even if they were not the operator at the time of the violation.

Why would speeding be any different???

The technology to use easy pass to catch speeders is available, it's just a question about whether or not governments decide to use it.
Red light cameras take a photo(s) of the offender. Ticket is still sent to registered owner, who can, in some cases when the photo isn't clear or clear that it is not them (i.e. woman driving, but car is registered to man), actually get out of the ticket.

The scheme in the OP has no way of knowing who is driving the car, unless cameras are also installed at the check points.
Red light camera systems can be designed to photograph only a vehicle's rear license plate, not vehicle occupants, depending on local law. Only vehicles driven by motorists who violate the law are photographed.

Violations photographed by red light cameras are most commonly treated in one of two ways — as traffic violations or as the equivalent of parking tickets, depending on state law. If, as in New York, red light camera violations are treated like parking citations, the law can make registered vehicle owners responsible without regard to who was driving at the time of the offense.
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said by Midak See Profile :

I got nailed going through Ohio on 80 at around 3AM. I mean, WTF, who in their right mind sets up a speed trap at 3AM???
Cops under their quota!
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People will be getting rid of them ASAP. Another thought is that you have the "Silver Bags" to store when you do not want to use them. I also have some facts for you.
EZPASS can barely pick up my transponder. When I check my statement 8 out of 10 times it has to verify my account via my license plates.(SUV)
I recently had to prove to my employer for an audit for tolls. When I checked my statement I had no Tolls register because it did not pick up my "transponder" or ID my Plate
(My Motorcycle in this case. My Tag is slightly obscured by the custom plate holder:)
Lee

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said by MrUmbra :

If your paranoid then remove your transponder and put it into an anti-static envelope. Hold it against the windshield when you're going through a toll collection lane.

--- CHAS

Speeding could still be detected by comparing times from one tollbooth to the next.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19289990 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:32:32 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19289972 sheik28 : Good for you.
You like to challenge a lot of laws apparently.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19289972 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:28:00 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19289952 81399672 :
said by sheik28 See Profile :

It's not interesting. You pay the ticket or say who it is. Very simple.
Is their such law, if not then you can tell them to take a hike. At least i would and would challange it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19289952 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:25:05 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19289917 sheik28 : It's not interesting. You pay the ticket or say who it is. Very simple.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19289917 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:17:37 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19289773 anon : Hi there RealoRC. We sang together.

--- CHAS]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19289773 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:49:47 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19289741 anon : If your paranoid then remove your transponder and put it into an anti-static envelope. Hold it against the windshield when you're going through a toll collection lane.

--- CHAS]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19289741 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:46:03 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19289714 RealoRc : EZPass doesn't have to be linked to one specific vehicle or driver. Like JerseyDevil said, everyone will get rid of EZPass once they get tickets in the mail for speeding. Or store it in the anti-static bag to keep the tagholder from being read when not at the tolls.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19289714 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:42:34 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19289676 rgoltsch : All good hoaxes start with a grain of truth.......

There is a set of these sensors checking for passing EZPass users just north of the end of the Garden State Parkway. On the connector to the NYS Thruway. They are mounted on poles that hang over the highway's right lane (Like a streetlight). The sensors are about a foot square and white.

The Thruway Authority and the Garden State Parkway use these sensors to monitor the cars with EZPass going by. If there is a slowdown, the sensors know it and can alert whatever authority needs to know.

When they went up a few years ago, there was a story about them in the local papers. They made a point of stating that they are only used for monitoring traffic, not to see who is speeding. IIRC, they purposely do not look at the ID number of the sensor passing through to ensure privacy.

Here's a quote:
SUBJECT: TRANSMIT (TRANSCOM's System for Managing Incidents and Traffic)
Operational Test
DESCRIPTION: TRANSCOM conducted an FHWA-funded operational test using electronic
toll collection (ETC) technology to detect incidents. The test successfully demonstrated that
ETC technology could be used for traffic management and incident detection. TRANSMIT
Phase I is a network of 22 roadside readers (at approximately 1.5-mile intervals along 19 miles
of the Garden State Parkway and New York State Thruway) that uses E-Z Pass toll transponder
equipped vehicles as probes. TRANSMIT collects travel time data from these vehicles and
compares them to an historical database to detect congestion-causing incidents. TRANSCOM's
Operations Information Center relays this incident information to the New York State Thruway
Authority and Garden State Parkway to allow rapid response and clearance, as well as directly to
motorists (through variable message signs or highway advisory radio) to reduce congestion. The
final evaluation reports for the project have been completed.
»www.njtpa.org/About/Business/doc···inal.pdf

It's on page 23 if you are interested....

Ron]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19289676 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:33:48 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19289459 81399672 :
said by sheik28 See Profile :

said by 81399672 See Profile :

What brilance said, plus in states like california if u r not register driver u can get out of the ticket just by claiming it's not you. You're not required to id who the driver is. Btw in op case, no picture is even provided to register owner
The California must be more lenient than NY. If you dispute the ticket on the grounds that it is not you, you must provide a notarized letter from the person who was driving. The ticket will then be issued in their name.
As far as EZ Pass tickets are concerned, right now they ticket you automatically for speeding through a toll. A while back there were several known speed traps that were set up through the EZ Pass system that were placed along a few highways/interstates in NY. Supposedly that practice was stopped but who knows.
You can't refuse to release name as you never agree to testify and also for privacy reasons? If that is the case, that is interesting.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19289459 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:57:37 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19289408 sheik28 :
said by 81399672 See Profile :

What brilance said, plus in states like california if u r not register driver u can get out of the ticket just by claiming it's not you. You're not required to id who the driver is. Btw in op case, no picture is even provided to register owner
The California must be more lenient than NY. If you dispute the ticket on the grounds that it is not you, you must provide a notarized letter from the person who was driving. The ticket will then be issued in their name.
As far as EZ Pass tickets are concerned, right now they ticket you automatically for speeding through a toll. A while back there were several known speed traps that were set up through the EZ Pass system that were placed along a few highways/interstates in NY. Supposedly that practice was stopped but who knows.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19289408 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:50:13 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19289191 swhx7 : As JerseyDevil and CLNYC observed, it is technically feasible.

A sufficently powerful magnet will scramble a "smart card" type of chip, or a metallic responder like the ones in anti-shoplifting tags. Direct application of high current or microwaves may disable such devices as well, but would be more likely to cause other damage and be more conspicuous.

If it's ever checked by a police officer and he accuses the motorist of tampering, the correct line would be "but I just took it from the envelope and stuck it on the window like they told me to. That's all I know about it! I didn't know it was defective."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19289191 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:22:10 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19289060 PToN : That was proposed here in the houston area a few years ago. It would have used existing structures to hold the devices and it would have worked for all vehicles and not only EZTag customers.

It was never approved..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19289060 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:00:49 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19289004 Sr Tech : The EZpass system can hold all types of statistics. If NY was to decide to use the system in this manner I would think it would have been all over the news by now. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19289004 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:50:57 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19288898 81399672 :
said by CLNYC See Profile :

said by 81399672 See Profile :

it's hoax, this should clue you in "Based upon the distance between the register
> points and the posted speed limit, the state is sending speeding tickets in the mail to the guilty persons."

This how our speeding laws work, in order for speeding ticket to be valid, state must be able to id the driver this in control of the vehicle. Just because you driving a car with easypass do not mean you owe the car. To me this is clearly a hoax.
A red light ticket which is a moving violation sends it to the owner of the car without knowing who actaully passed the red light so the owner is punished even if they were not the operator at the time of the violation.

Why would speeding be any different???

The technology to use easy pass to catch speeders is available, it's just a question about whether or not governments decide to use it.
What brilance said, plus in states like california if u r not register driver u can get out of the ticket just by claiming it's not you. You're not required to id who the driver is. Btw in op case, no picture is even provided to register owner]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19288898 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:33:44 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19288569 bjl :
said by CLNYC See Profile :

said by 81399672 See Profile :

it's hoax, this should clue you in "Based upon the distance between the register
> points and the posted speed limit, the state is sending speeding tickets in the mail to the guilty persons."

This how our speeding laws work, in order for speeding ticket to be valid, state must be able to id the driver this in control of the vehicle. Just because you driving a car with easypass do not mean you owe the car. To me this is clearly a hoax.
A red light ticket which is a moving violation sends it to the owner of the car without knowing who actaully passed the red light so the owner is punished even if they were not the operator at the time of the violation.

Why would speeding be any different???

The technology to use easy pass to catch speeders is available, it's just a question about whether or not governments decide to use it.
Red light cameras take a photo(s) of the offender. Ticket is still sent to registered owner, who can, in some cases when the photo isn't clear or clear that it is not them (i.e. woman driving, but car is registered to man), actually get out of the ticket.

The scheme in the OP has no way of knowing who is driving the car, unless cameras are also installed at the check points. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19288569 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:46:07 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19288442 MooJohn : This message follows the classic recipe for a hoax email.

Step 1: Make statements that show imminent danger or harm to the reader.

said by Midak See Profile :

> New York State started a pilot program upstate
> north of Albany on the Northway to catch speeders using the Easy Pass
> system. Recording devices were installed at intervals along the
> highway...
Step 2: Make sure the claim is general enough to apply to anyone reading the message. In this case, that means drivers who don't use EZ-Pass.

said by Midak See Profile :

> Because every driver does not have Easy Pass,
> the State is "perplexed" as what to do to impose the system state-wide.
> The solution has been found. Soon all new vehicle registration stickers
> will have a metal strip or chip imbedded in same. This will take the
> place of the Easy Pass system as stated above...
Step 3: Assure the reader that it is a legitimate message. This is the best part of any hoax. You'll frequently find references to large companies in this section because it adds an air of believability. I don't know why these mentions are almost always in ALL CAPS. Most of the time it's MICROSOFT and/or AOL.

said by Midak See Profile :

> This is not fictional. New York State
> contracted with VERIZON to install the system. The system has already
> been installed and the entire Bronx River Parkway in Westchester County
> has been "wired" for when the new system begins...
Step 4: Fire up the conspiracy theory

said by Midak See Profile :

> Another reason that will be given for the new
> system is to enable the authorities to track stolen vehicles, to trace
> kidnap victims, to monitor and trace suspected criminals and terrorists,
> etc.
>
BIG BROTHER IS ALIVE AND WELL.
And finally, Step 5 - the Coupe de Gracie (heh heh):

said by Midak See Profile :

> Pass this along to every one you know.
I've been emailing for over 15 years. In that time I have never sent a message that was so urgent that it needed to be "blasted" to every email address ever created. I've never received a message of that importance either. Somehow I doubt a message from someone's "uncle's cousin's best friend's mother's former roommate's podiatrist" is that important either.
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said by 81399672 See Profile :

it's hoax, this should clue you in "Based upon the distance between the register
> points and the posted speed limit, the state is sending speeding tickets in the mail to the guilty persons."

This how our speeding laws work, in order for speeding ticket to be valid, state must be able to id the driver this in control of the vehicle. Just because you driving a car with easypass do not mean you owe the car. To me this is clearly a hoax.
A red light ticket which is a moving violation sends it to the owner of the car without knowing who actaully passed the red light so the owner is punished even if they were not the operator at the time of the violation.

Why would speeding be any different???

The technology to use easy pass to catch speeders is available, it's just a question about whether or not governments decide to use it.
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said by PCInTech See Profile :

Yes, but that is the mid-portion of the State, on the NYS Thruway. Central New York.

The OP says:
"> New York State started a pilot program upstate
> north of Albany on the Northway to catch speeders using the Easy Pass
> system. Recording devices were installed at intervals along the
> highway. "

The "Northway" runs from Albany to Montreal, Quebec, leaving New York at Champlain. There are no tolls anywhere NORTH of the Thruway in the Center of the State, either on I-87 "Adirondack Northway" portion, nor the only other Interstate along Lake Ontario, I-81 from Syracuse to Alexandria Bay. No one has Easy Pass, so "readers" would serve no purpose. That tells me that the letter is absolutely a Hoax. :)
Ok missed that part either way the technology to do what is mentioned is real and does exist in parts of the state, however it is not used for a ticket issuing purpose.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19288166 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:42:52 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19288041 PCInTech :
said by JerseyDevil See Profile :

Actually there are device on teh thurway in the area between Syracuse and Buffalo that I have seen this summer on a trip to Toronto.

They are real and that is there purpose as I know some people that are very familar with ez-pass.
Yes, but that is the mid-portion of the State, on the NYS Thruway. Central New York.

The OP says:
"> New York State started a pilot program upstate
> north of Albany on the Northway to catch speeders using the Easy Pass
> system. Recording devices were installed at intervals along the
> highway. "

The "Northway" runs from Albany to Montreal, Quebec, leaving New York at Champlain. There are no tolls anywhere NORTH of the Thruway in the Center of the State, either on I-87 "Adirondack Northway" portion, nor the only other Interstate along Lake Ontario, I-81 from Syracuse to Alexandria Bay. No one has Easy Pass, so "readers" would serve no purpose. That tells me that the letter is absolutely a Hoax. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19288041 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:23:55 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19288003 JerseyDevil : Actually there are device on teh thurway in the area between Syracuse and Buffalo that I have seen this summer on a trip to Toronto.

They are real and that is there purpose as I know some people that are very familar with ez-pass.
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said by JerseyDevil See Profile :

This is a hoax but the recording devices they mentioned are real which leads people to believe this as true. So far I have only seen the readers in upstate new york myself but the idea behind it is that by tracking ez-pass information they will be able to do studies on traffic congestion in certain areas.
By "upstate", where do you mean? The highway mentioned in the OP, the "Northway" (Adirondack Northway) would have no reason whatsoever to have any devices having anything to do with Easy Pass. The Northway is 187 miles long, and there are no more tolls North of Albany. Residents of the entire area of Northern NY, have no reason to have Easy Pass. These new mysterious devices along the Northway may possibly be part of the new emergency call box system, installed because there is NO CELL PHONE service along most of that route until you hit Plattsburgh. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19287925 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:07:08 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19287811 JerseyDevil : This is a hoax but the recording devices they mentioned are real which leads people to believe this as true. So far I have only seen the readers in upstate new york myself but the idea behind it is that by tracking ez-pass information they will be able to do studies on traffic congestion in certain areas.

I know that they easy could do a math equation and create speeding tickets based on speed and distance the reason they don't is because then everyone would get rid of ez-pass and its main purpose of reducing congestion would be lost.
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Florida? I have heard from my landlords that they do this down there. They call their system "Sun Pass" or something similar. He has told me that he received a letter once warning him that he passed between X and Y too quickly, and future infractions may result in a ticket...

That was his first and last, as he canceled the account (he is an older man who doesn't want to be bothered).

But hmm....I vaguely recall someone telling me about this in NY, but since I cannot remember anything more - I won't speculate. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19287703 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:28:16 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19287398 81399672 : it's hoax, this should clue you in "Based upon the distance between the register
> points and the posted speed limit, the state is sending speeding tickets in the mail to the guilty persons."

This how our speeding laws work, in order for speeding ticket to be valid, state must be able to id the driver this in control of the vehicle. Just because you driving a car with easypass do not mean you owe the car. To me this is clearly a hoax.
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Ohio is the worst state for speeding. That's a well known fact.

There are EZPass readers at lots of random places and the system they're using it for on Long Island is to calculate approximate drive time between major roads on Long Island (Meadowbrook, 110, etc)

It reads all cars with EZPasses then when you cross the next EZPass reader it calculates the approximate drive time and an average of some sort is displayed on big boards along Northern State parkway.

So....Can it be used to catch speeding? YES
Is it being used to do that...I'll venture to say NO.
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Gallery * Life * Work]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19287300 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:27:28 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19287292 PCInTech : Smells highly of "ridiculous". There is NO WHERE in Northern NY, North of the Thruway where Easy Pass is even used! There are no TOLLS on the Adirondack Northway, which is what I-87 becomes after Albany. IF it were true, then it would only target the city Downstaters, as locals don't have Easy Pass, having no use for it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19287292 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:25:52 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19287143 sheik28 : If I was to guess I would say it's based off of what they proposed in Texas. RFID chips in registration stickers.
There is also a system in the UK that uses chips in license plates.
UK STORY
TEXAS STORY HERE
AND HERE
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said by Midak See Profile :

I got nailed going through Ohio on 80 at around 3AM. I mean, WTF, who in their right mind sets up a speed trap at 3AM???
It worked, didnt it?
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You're so vain... I bet you think this post is about you.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19286865 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:18:18 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19286726 Midak : I got nailed going through Ohio on 80 at around 3AM. I mean, WTF, who in their right mind sets up a speed trap at 3AM???]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19286726 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:54:55 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19286421 Chinabound : Out here in Chicagoland, they call it "I-Pass" (which now works out there - yay!), and the possibility has been brought up before on the local morning news. It isn't happening here, and I would assume that it isn't out there either, or everyone would know about it and be livid.

What do you mean "cheating"? Speeding? I take I-80 across Pennsylvania so I don't pay any tolls. But before I-80 was completed (back in the early 70s I believe), we used to have to take the PA turnpike and pick up the New Jersey Turnpike. Back then, I believe NJTP would check the time on your card and possibly cite you for speeding. The only reason I say this is because I remember my father slowing down to the speed limit in NJ and my grandmother mentioning it when they ran trucks (veggies) downstate. We flew across IN, OH and PA though (I still do) - all toll roads with the time stamped card when you pick it up.

If this ever comes to be, I am certain Ohio will be the first. The cops are all over like fly shit on their stretch of I-80.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19286421 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:12:44 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19286296 HardwareGeek : Isn't this what they do already in some states.

Especially where they charge your toll on how far you go.

Some people have been caught cheating in PA because of the way EZ pass is done there.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19286296 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:49:57 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19286134 Chinabound : One more!
This would be front page news.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19286134 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:19:26 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19286116 Midak : EDIT. Hopefully someone can find this to be a hoax.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19286116 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:15:02 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19286093 lilhurricane : ...not yet on snopes, but I was just going to post what Michael did :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19286093 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:10:32 EDT Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19286051 Chinabound :
quote:
Pass this along to every one you know.


This should throw you a hint.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19286051 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:58:51 EDT [OT] EZ Pass hoax or real? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19285954 Midak : This one stinks of hoax but my google searches turned up nothing to confirm or debunk. Anyone have anything to prove it one way or the other?

Subject: EZ Pass Information UPDATE!!

>
> New York State started a pilot program upstate
> north of Albany on the Northway to catch speeders using the Easy Pass
> system. Recording devices were installed at intervals along the
> highway. Once an Easy Pass equipped vehicle passes, the device
> registers the account number and the time. Same is again registered at
> the next "check-point". Based upon the distance between the register
> points and the posted speed limit, the state is sending speeding tickets
> in the mail to the guilty persons.
>
>
>
> Because every driver does not have Easy Pass,
> the State is "perplexed" as what to do to impose the system state-wide.
> The solution has been found. Soon all new vehicle registration stickers
> will have a metal strip or chip imbedded in same. This will take the
> place of the Easy Pass system as stated above. When a vehicle passes
> the registering device, the strip will relay all the information.
>
>
>
> This is not fictional. New York State
> contracted with VERIZON to install the system. The system has already
> been installed and the entire Bronx River Parkway in Westchester County
> has been "wired" for when the new system begins. Once the State
> makes the new program public and advises all motorists of the potential
> for numerous speeding tickets, it will also reveal that the system has
> already been installed.
>
>
>
> Another reason that will be given for the new
> system is to enable the authorities to track stolen vehicles, to trace
> kidnap victims, to monitor and trace suspected criminals and terrorists,
> etc.
>
>
>
> BIG BROTHER IS ALIVE AND WELL.
>
>
>
> Pass this along to every one you know.
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