Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth in Southern California

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Fri, 09 Nov 2007 02:06:18 EDT

Maleficent : Digging up an old thread, I know. But they have a composite of a suspected arsonist for "The Rosas" fire.

»www.knbc.com/news/14543436/detail.html
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Update on all fires;

Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:21:18 EDT

ghostpainter : Harris Fire: 100% contained at 90,440 acres

Santiago Fire: 90% contained at 28,445 acres

Slide Fire: 97% contained at 12,759 acres

Ranch Fire: 97% contained at 58,401 acres

Poomacha Fire : 70% contained at 50,156 acres

Witch Fire: 99% contained at 197,990 acres

Zaca Fire: OUT

Canyon Fire: 100% contained

Devore Fires: OUT

Slide Fire: Still revising
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:37:02 EDT

ghostpainter : I understand that he is under the age of 12....The DA is considering the case....What do you do a kid playing with matches, especially if he has no concept of what has happened.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:11:26 EDT

Dude111 : I just was gonna post that!!

I hope he realizes just how much damage he caused.....

I cant believe they let him go home like nothing happend!

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:30:06 EDT

Maleficent : Buckweed fire was started by a kid playing with matches:

»hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/W/···=DEFAULT
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Re: Fire Updates as of 11:am Sunday PST

Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:37:01 EDT

EGeezer : Found a google maps link that may be helpful and/or informative - It has fire boundaries, emergency information, etc. Link here.
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Fire Updates as of 11:am Sunday PST

Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:24:26 EDT

ghostpainter : NOTE: The Canyon Fire is the Malibu Fire.

As of 11 am Sunday, October 28,

Santiago fire: 50% contained at 27,900 acres.
15 homes and nine outbuildings have been destroyed, and 8 residential structures and 12 outbuildings were damaged. 1,941 people are assigned to this incident and six firefighter injuries have been reported. The estimated cost of this fire to date is $6.5 million.

Grass Valley fire: 95% contained at 1,140 acres
162 structures have been destroyed, and more than 6,000 homes remain threatened. Evacuation and closure orders remain in effect for a large area surrounding the fire.

Ranch fire: 97% contained at 58,401 acres.
One home and nine outbuildings have been destroyed. 73 personnel are assigned to this incident. The estimated cost of this fire to date is $9 million. Full containment is expected on October 30. Ranch Fire Information Line .

Slide fire: 75% contained at 12,789 acres.
201 homes and 3 outbuildings have burned.

Harris fire : 65% contained at 90,750 acres
21 civilian and 16 firefighter injuries, as well as one death on this fire. 206 homes and 247 outbuildings have been destroyed, and 252 additional structures are damaged. Damage assessments are still being conducted.

Poomacha fire: 50% contained at 49,150 acres.
136 homes and 19 outbuildings have been destroyed. 500 homes remain threatened.

Witch fire: 90% contained at 197,990 acres
1,040 homes and 414 outbuildings have been destroyed. 70 homes and 25 outbuildings have been damaged. 239 vehicles have been destroyed.

Rice fire:100% contained at 9,000 acres
206 homes, 2 commercial properties and 40 outbuildings have been destroyed. Evacuations have been lifted. Five firefighters injuries have been reported. 850 firefighters are assigned to this fire under unified command. The estimated cost of this fire is $4.9 million. Full containment is expected on October 28. Rice Fire Information Line .

Ammo fire: 100% contained at 21,084 acres.
130 firefighters are assigned to this incident and six firefighters have been injured.

Canyon fire: 100% contained at 4,521 acres.
22 structures have been damaged or destroyed. Three injuries have been reported. The estimated cost of this fire to date is $5.8 million.

Information compiled from:
»www.fire.ca.gov/#fires01
»inciweb.org/
»geomac.usgs.gov/#

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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:49:46 EDT

CurtesyFlush : Lake Mission Viejo by firelight.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:45:54 EDT

bskuared : Well, the fire in Pendleton is being reported as 90% contained:

The Horno/Ammo Fire has burned 21,084 acres since October 23 and is 90 percent contained. 189 firefighters are assigned to this incident and two firefighter has been injured.

»www.inciweb.org/incident/1010/
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:43:18 EDT

81399672 : wow, if i saw that fire and lights went out, i am sure i would need change of cloth. Hope they are able to stop it
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:39:16 EDT

bskuared : as of 6:30pm tonight, the Orange County Fire Authority is reporting the Santiago Fire is 40% contained.

Here's a picure of the Pendleton Fire as seen from Dana Point the other night..
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sat, 27 Oct 2007 21:30:31 EDT

81399672 :

said by Lovehound :

It's not fair to compare the Katrina disaster with our SoCal fire disaster.

In LA the disaster struck only (or mostly) hillside developments. In New Orleans it struck the entire city. Los Angeles still had the infrastructure intact. In New Orleans the infrastructure was decimated.

The two are not comparable.

While that is totally true, we in caifornia are still more used to dealing with disasters and responding to them then saying people in new orleans were at the time it hit it them. We deal with fires regularly, we also deal with mudslides on regular bases in addiftion to earthquakes once in a while and flooding.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sat, 27 Oct 2007 21:17:17 EDT

Lovehound : It's not fair to compare the Katrina disaster with our SoCal fire disaster.

In LA the disaster struck only (or mostly) hillside developments. In New Orleans it struck the entire city. Los Angeles still had the infrastructure intact. In New Orleans the infrastructure was decimated.

The two are not comparable.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sat, 27 Oct 2007 20:49:00 EDT

nightdesigns :

said by bjl :

said by ghostpainter :

No rain in the forecast for the next 14 days except for some early morning drizzle along the coast.

How about late afternoon drizzle? That's what we have here in Tustin right now. Looking at the radar, its should also be drizzling in the hills. good news for the firefight.

I experienced rain from Irvine to RSM. Unfortunately the ground didn't look wet here in the hills. I don't think it'll help the fire fight much.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sat, 27 Oct 2007 20:14:23 EDT

bjl :

said by ghostpainter :

No rain in the forecast for the next 14 days except for some early morning drizzle along the coast.

How about late afternoon drizzle? That's what we have here in Tustin right now. Looking at the radar, its should also be drizzling in the hills. good news for the firefight.

The mountaininfo.com webcams also show a wet parking lot at the lake arrowhead village.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:14:00 EDT

Jtmo : Official or not, there were a whole bunch of people smart enough to get out of Dodge. Many of my friends were not on the 'official' evacuation. They just packed up and left, many in their RV's.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sat, 27 Oct 2007 14:04:55 EDT

bskuared : Fire near Silverado has not descended into town ... - 9:23 a.m.

The fire along the ridgeline near Silverado was still burning this morning but had not descended into town, Orange County Fire Officials said. Flames are estimated roughly to be about three miles up Maple Springs road from the checkpoint at the end of Silverado Canyon road, about 3,000 feet above the town. Fire officials said that they are seeing "up-canyon" winds during the day, that tend to push the flames away from town. But houses in the town had been sprayed with fire-retardant and residents are under mandatory evacuation order. To the northeast, the fire was still moving towards the main divide and the Riverside County line but had not crossed county lines overnight. Fire officials said that 18 bulldozers crews dug about five miles of firebreak lines overnight near the Orange County and Riverside lines but had another ten miles still to dig. Air drops of flame retardant reinforced about 2.5 miles of fire lines near the county border.

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20% chance of light showers and fire tornado's

Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:29:25 EDT

ghostpainter :

said by 81399672 :

well that sound not to bad, except for no rain.

Remember that cut off low I was talking about a couple of days ago, well it is moving this way so there is a 20% chance of light showers over the Mt's and inland valleys, and it will keep the temps down but more importantly the humidity and dew point will go back up giving fire fighters a real chance to get a handle on all of the fires.

Still looking at a weak off shore flow on Monday and Tuesday after the cut off low moves through.

This is a link to a fire storm that spawns its own Tornado.

»www.liveleak.com/view?i=88a_

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Santiago

Sat, 27 Oct 2007 10:39:06 EDT

bjl : According to the latest update to the OC Register's map:

quote:
As of 7 a.m. Saturday. Boundaries from the Orange County Fire Authority. Lates OCFA update has the fire aout 3 miles from I-15 and 8 miles from Lake Elsinore.

»maps.google.com/maps/ms?uid=1085···fa97d8a5

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:34:08 EDT

81399672 : well that sound not to bad, except for no rain.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:30:08 EDT

ghostpainter : Cooling off the next couple of days, then we have a mild Santa Ana coming in for Monday and Tuesday with temps getting back up around 85 to 88 in the valleys then cooling down for the weekend to normal seasonal temperatures, early morning fog along the coast....Winds should be only 15 to 25 mph perhaps 30 out here in the passes during the Light Santa Ana's.

No rain in the forecast for the next 14 days except for some early morning drizzle along the coast.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:18:23 EDT

81399672 : how is our weather looking for next 5 days?

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:15:22 EDT

ghostpainter : My My....I have done several services up in Silverado Canyon...It is one of those areas that has its own mini climate and is somewhat akin to the West Virgina Mts near Clarksburg.

I hope they can get the fire out before it gets in there.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:03:14 EDT

bskuared : here's a map of the Santiago Fire...

the are predicting it will hit the homes in Silverado by noon tomorrow

»www.ocregister.com/article/map-s···e-county
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:55:57 EDT

Maleficent : »www.knbc.com/news/14425782/detail.html

Hopefully this link will work. This is an "interactive" map of the fires.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:36:30 EDT

Lovehound : Yeah Sunset, I noticed the same thing yesterday when the breezes quit. All the smoke had no place to go so it all came down on the Valley and we were choked with smoke far worse than when the fires were going bigtime.

Well I'll breathe smoke here in Northridge if it means the firefighters can have a better shot at quenching the fires. I'm glad the winds died.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:20:53 EDT

Sunsetstrip :

Today has to be one of the worst air quality days I have seen in many decades,the good news is that during the last hour the wind started out of the west and it really cooled down and i can see blue sky with high clouds and behind it a pretty heavy marine layer pushing in as far as WeHo and Beverly Hills

Re: Its getting werid out here.....

Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:05:55 EDT

jig : that was one of the pics in the montage put up by la times, submitted by the public. it's a great picture.. is that the opposite of an inversion layer?

Re: Its getting werid out here.....

Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:28:37 EDT

Lovehound : Did you shoot that pic Ghostpainter? Great shot! Particularly considering the comments I've heard that it wasn't possible to get good shots due to the smoky conditions.

Its getting werid out here.....

Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:24:18 EDT

ghostpainter : This is Highway 18 this afternoon as the smoke clouds begin to back against the Mt's.

We have heavy ash fall now from the Santiago Fire as it blows up...Several new Home areas are in danger again as the fire backs around and burns towards Corona.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:19:19 EDT

bskuared : as of 2:20pm today...

The Santiago fire is again sweeping toward Silverado Canyon, and fire officials warned that it could be within minutes of coming over the ridgelines there. Orange County Sheriff's deputies were going through the canyon to evacuate any remaining holdouts.

The fire had been bulling its way through the isolated wilderness of the Cleveland National Forest, and fire officials said earlier in the day that it no longer appeared to pose an immediate threat to homes. But now, it was once again on the move to the north, and once again menacing Silverado Canyon.

A strike team of nearly 200 firefighters was in the canyon, their only orders to protect the homes there. The fire appeared to be threatening the back end of the canyon, where there are at least 100 homes.
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Re: Ask the Chief

Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:10:17 EDT

bskuared : Website says these are deployed:

OCFA

1,614 Firefighters
216 Engines/Trucks
13 Helicopters
4 Air Tankers
21 Handcrews
11 Dozers
12 Water Tenders
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Re: Ask the Chief

Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:27:34 EDT

nightdesigns :

said by CurtesyFlush :

Those of you who live in the jurisdiction of the Orange County Fire Authority, or in a wildland interface area that abuts their jurisdiction, might want to ask Chief Prather "What happened to the dozers?" Back when it was known as Orange County Fire Dept, they owned and operated two fire dozers and transports. For the clueless, dozers can cut a lot of fireline in a short amount of time.

I know they have at least one around, I saw a few days before the fires.

I'll be seeing his side-kick, Capt. Stephen Miller, most likely next week. I'll see what I can dig up.
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Re: 4 Involved in San Diego Helicopter Crash

Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:46:07 EDT

ghostpainter : I am still getting updates from all of my fire sources....I could post them but a lot of them are aircraft scanner talk, especially over the new fire in Big Bear.

They are waiting for the super scooper's to get in....Looks like Butler Peak again.

Fire Crews Concentrated Near Snow Valley; Big Bear Events and Closures --The updated reports on the Slide and Grass Valley Fires, is that they have achieved improved containment on both fires. Over 2,100 firefighters are at work on both blazes, and the Slide Fire is now at 15% containment on the 13, 378 acre blaze. The Grass Valley Fire is now at 70% containment over 1,100 acres, with an updated structure loss count of 160.

Firefighting crews have concentrated efforts on the 13 Turns section of Highway 18, both day and night, to ensure that the Slide Fire does not cross the highway between Snow Valley Ski Area and Green Valley Lake Road. John Miller of the U.S. Forest Service spoke to us directly from this area this morning, and reports that this is a ground fire, and most trees along the roadway due remain intact. However, the fire did reach the roadway, from about a ¼ mile west of the top of 13 Turns and down to near the Green Vally turnoff. Still, Miller tells KBHR, “There are a ton of crews there, putting out hot spots.” That said, he reassures us, “The threat to Big Bear is minimal.” There is one hot spot that is reportedly visible from the Highway 38 area, and this is directly north of Snow Valley along the ridgeline. The fire, Miller notes, “is in the timber and that's what's creating all the smoke. It is one concentrated area. Crews are there, and there is aircraft working it as well.” Given today's blue skies in the Big Bear Valley, we will see columns of smoke but again, Miller says, “The threat to Big Bear is low.”

Re: 4 Involved in San Diego Helicopter Crash

Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:06:26 EDT

No_Strings :

said by aztecnology :

Thanks for that info, now that they stopped the continuous coverage it's really hard to get updates, especially when this fire is in the CNF now and heading my way...

The Register has intermittent updates on their Fire Central page: »www.ocregister.com/ocregister/se···central/

Santiago fire now within a half mile of Riverside County line ... - 9:06 a.m.

The Santiago wildfire has bulled its way to within half a mile of the Riverside County line at its nearest point. Firefighters were planning today to make a stand at the county line, but said they may have to resort to "bump-and-run" defensive tactics if the fire breaks through.

Fire crews lit controlled backfires overnight near Williams Canyon. The fires devoured grass and brush in the area, creating a firebreak that officials said should protect part of Silverado Canyon.

edit - For the Captain's benefit:

"Nine helicopters have joined the fight against the Santiago wildfire, bringing the total number in the air to 13. Also fighting the fire: 24 hand crews, 11 bulldozers, 216 fire engines, 12 water tenders and four air tankers."

Re: Look at This!

Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:14:11 EDT

CurtesyFlush : I hope they didn't deploy standing and sitting up. I'm assuming the camera froze the moment right before they hit the dirt.
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Re: Look at This!

Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:04:34 EDT

bjl : whoa! The OC register had a photo of one of the used shelters on the ground, this morning. I guess the photographer had some kind of shelter too? Or a really long lens.

Re: Ask the Chief

Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:02:58 EDT

bjl :

said by No_Strings :

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I went to Brea yesterday and came back through the leading edge of the burn area on the 241 toll road. What a mess. The scale of it was hard to take in.
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I had the camera with me, but it was too hazy to get anything worthwhile.
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I wanted to take a drive up Tustin Ranch Rd to Jamboree yesterday after work to get some photos, but realized the same thing - that it would be too hazy/smoky still to get anything good. Maybe this weekend will be better. The air quality here at UCI is a bit better today.

Look at This!

Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:01:57 EDT

Maleficent : When I first saw this, I thought it was some weird rock outcropping. No! It's a dozen firemen huddled in their portable shelters as they were overtaken by the flames.

Here's the link to the article:

»www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me···lifornia
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Re: Ask the Chief

Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:39:35 EDT

No_Strings : One of the Register articles described a scene where they were clearing a line along a ridge near Silverado with them.

I went to Brea yesterday and came back through the leading edge of the burn area on the 241 toll road. What a mess. The scale of it was hard to take in.

Some portions were burned so intensely, there was nothing - no stumps, stubs, twigs, nothing. Just black dirt. Other parts were more typical - big trees still standing, some shrubs with a little green left. I assume that some of that has to do with previous burns in addition to fuel factors.

I had the camera with me, but it was too hazy to get anything worthwhile. As things clear, I'll be hiking and biking up into some of the familiar territory and taking stock of what is or is not left.

Ask the Chief

Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:09:39 EDT

CurtesyFlush : Those of you who live in the jurisdiction of the Orange County Fire Authority, or in a wildland interface area that abuts their jurisdiction, might want to ask Chief Prather "What happened to the dozers?" Back when it was known as Orange County Fire Dept, they owned and operated two fire dozers and transports. For the clueless, dozers can cut a lot of fireline in a short amount of time.
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Re: 4 Involved in San Diego Helicopter Crash

Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:14:25 EDT

aztecnology : Thanks for that info, now that they stopped the continuous coverage it's really hard to get updates, especially when this fire is in the CNF now and heading my way...

Re: 4 Involved in San Diego Helicopter Crash

Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:50:17 EDT

No_Strings : The U.S.Forest Service has assumed command of the Santiago fire efforts, per the OC Register.

The site page for the incident: »www.inciweb.org/incident/1016/

4 Involved in San Diego Helicopter Crash

Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:27:44 EDT

ghostpainter : Just what we need, more injuries from an Arson set fire. :huh:

Helicopter Privately Owned
RAMONA, Oct. 24, 2007 (CNS) - A helicopter operated by a contractor for San Diego Gas & Electric crashed in an avocado grove northeast of Poway Thursday, authorities reported.

The four occupants of the aircraft apparently suffered minor injuries when it went down in a rural area near Sky Valley Drive and Rancho del Sol in the San Pasqual area, according to the California Highway Patrol, which received an emergency call.

It was not immediately clear what caused the helicopter to crash. Those aboard reportedly were flying over the area in order to check on the condition of power lines.

»abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=local&id=

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Re: Southland evacuation areas and closures

Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:50:21 EDT

81399672 :

said by retropolitan :

no that's in Kearny Mesa which is next to Clairmont Mesa North, East, and West and we have not had to evacuate yet.

okay cool, thanks for that information

Re: Southland evacuation areas and closures

Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:49:49 EDT

81399672 :

said by Maleficent :

said by 81399672 :

thanks for posting that information, do you know if state of caifornia medi-cal field office in San Diego been evacuated? it's on 9425 Chesapeake Dr, San Diego

I don't know. You may have to call around.

guess i will just have to call direct, didn't want to bug them but that is only way i guess.

Re: Southland evacuation areas and closures

Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:49:25 EDT

retropolitan : no that's in Kearny Mesa which is next to Clairmont Mesa North, East, and West and we have not had to evacuate yet.

Re: Southland evacuation areas and closures

Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:48:29 EDT

Maleficent :

said by 81399672 :

thanks for posting that information, do you know if state of caifornia medi-cal field office in San Diego been evacuated? it's on 9425 Chesapeake Dr, San Diego

I don't know. You may have to call around.
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Wonder where the fires are?

Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:11:18 EDT

CurtesyFlush : They're here dummy.
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Re: Southland evacuation areas and closures

Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:10:53 EDT

81399672 : thanks for posting that information, do you know if state of caifornia medi-cal field office in San Diego been evacuated? it's on 9425 Chesapeake Dr, San Diego
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Southland evacuation areas and closures

Thu, 25 Oct 2007 03:04:44 EDT

Maleficent : Southland evacuation areas and closures

October 25, 2007

The fires that have swept through Southern California have forced hundreds of thousands of residents to evacuate, triggered numerous road closures and prompted school officials to cancel classes throughout the region. Below is a partial list of closures in the region. For the latest updates, check www.latimes.com

Los Angeles County

Road closures:

* Schueren Road from Piuma Road to Stunt Road

* Glendora Mountain Road from Big Dalton Road to East Fork

* Bouquet Canyon Road from Shadow Valley Lane to Vasquez Canyon Road

* Bouquet Canyon Road from Vasquez Canyon Road to Spunky Canyon Road

* Vasquez Canyon Road from 1,000 feet east of Bouquet Canyon Road to Sierra Highway

* Las Flores Canyon Road from Pacific Coast Highway to Rambla Pacifico

* Vasquez Canyon Road from Bouquet Canyon Road to 1,000 feet east of Bouquet Canyon Road

* Malibu Canyon Road from Pepperdine University to Piuma Road

For more information, check »lacounty.info/

Evacuation centers:

* Golden Valley High School, 27051 Robert C. Lee Parkway, Santa Clarita

Ventura County

Road closures:

* C Street between Old Telegraph Road and Meadowlark Drive in Fillmore to accommodate firefighting equipment

For more information, check »fire.countyofventura.org

Orange County

Road closures:

* Santiago Canyon road south of the 241 toll road to Live Oak Canyon Road

* All of Live Oak Canyon Road

* All of Trabuco Canyon Road

* Northbound Plano Trabuco Road north of Robinson Ranch Road

For more information, check www.ocfa.org

Mandatory evacuations:

* Canyon areas off Santiago Canyon Road between Silverado Canyon Road and Live Oak Canyon Road, including the Santiago Estates area and Jackson Ranch Road. Areas along Live Oak Canyon Road through the Trabuco Canyon area, including O'Neill Regional Park to Trabuco Creek Road are also included.

Evacuation centers:

* El Toro High School, 25255 Toledo Way, Lake Forest

* El Modena High School, 3920 Spring St., Orange

School closures:

* Silverado Elementary, and all schools in the Saddleback Valley and Capistrano unified school districts will be closed today

San Diego County

Road closures:

* Throughout San Diego County. For more information, check www.sdcdpw.org

Mandatory evacuations:

* Rancho Bernardo, west of I-15, east of I-5, north of 56 to the city limits

* Scripps Ranch, south of Beeler Canyon, east of I-15, north of Marine Corps Air Station Miramar, and west of California 67

* Del Mar/Solana Beach, west of Black Mountain Road, south of Del Dios Highway, north of California 56

Evacuation centers:

* Thousands of evacuees are staying at Qualcomm Stadium, 9449 Friars Road, San Diego. Other shelters are open throughout the county. For a complete list, go to »www.sdcountyemergency.com

School closures:

* All San Diego County public schools, UC San Diego, San Diego State University (except the Imperial Valley campus), Cal State San Marcos and Southwestern College will be closed until Monday

San Bernardino

County

Road closures:

* All roadways into the San Bernardino Mountains remain closed to upbound, non-emergency traffic, including California 18 from 40th Street and Waterman to Big Bear Dam; California 330 from Highland to California 18; and California 138 at California 173. Evacuees are strongly urged not to use California 330 to leave the mountain. For more information, check www.sbcounty.gov

Slide fire

Mandatory evacuations:

* Green Valley Lake

* Running Springs

Grass Valley fire

Mandatory evacuations:

* Lake Arrowhead

* Cedar Glen

* All communities from Crestline east to Grass Valley Lake and the Snow Valley area

Evacuation centers:

* National Orange Show Fairgrounds, 689 South E St., San Bernardino

* Victorville Fairgrounds, 14800 7th St., Victorville

School closures:

* Rim of the World, San Bernardino City, Redlands, and Yucaipa-Calimesa Unified School Districts, Cal State San Bernardino, San Bernardino Valley College and Crafton Community College

National Forests

All four national forests in Southern California -- the Angeles, San Bernardino, Cleveland and Los Padres -- are closed to the public until the extreme fire conditions subside. The closures apply to all national forest recreational facilities, roads and hiking trails. Violators are subject to fines and/or arrest.

Some county roads and state highways, including Angeles Crest Highway, will remain open to traffic. But drivers are urged to use extreme caution and be aware of any fire activity in the area. Individuals or organizations with special-use permits for sanctioned activities are exempt from the order.

In the San Bernardino National Forest, access is still allowed to the Serrano Campground, the Alpine Pedal Path and the Juniper Point Parking Area. Visitors must remain vigilant and obey fire restrictions, including no smoking and no wood or charcoal fires anywhere on the forest. For more information about the forests, contact the Fire Information Centers:

* Angeles National Forest: (626) 821-6700

* San Bernardino National Forest: (909) 383-5688

* Cleveland National Forest: (619) 590-3160

* Los Padres National Forest: (805) 961-5770
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Thu, 25 Oct 2007 02:55:48 EDT

Dude111 : Here is a report saying the fires might be ARSON! (Which i thought may be possible -- WE ALL HAVE TO SUFFER FOR THIS IDIOTS GAMES!!)

»www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me···e-center

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Thu, 25 Oct 2007 02:52:15 EDT

americanada : Just found a video of today's landing:

»www.pe.com/video/index.html?nvid···45&shu=1

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Thu, 25 Oct 2007 02:33:04 EDT

Telly Boot :

said by americanada :

I just saw it on ABC7 a few minutes ago. It landed on the lake and will begin air operations tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing some footage of an old magnificent lady in action.

Ten years ago it was in the same area on a firefighting demonstration flight:
" ...Southern California area while scoops and drops were undertaken in conjunction with the Catalina near the Queen Mary. Also, the Mars ventured to Lake Elsinore for further scoops and drops. Since the area is not exactly blessed with lakes, the Mars demonstrated that it could also scoop out of the ocean, which it did near Malibu. County, city, and fire officials were greatly impressed with the massive cascade of water pouring from Hawaii Mars and as we go to press the decision is being made on whether the Mars will be placed under contract." [ Written up by Denis O'Leary in Air Classics, October 1998.]
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Thu, 25 Oct 2007 02:24:49 EDT

americanada : I just saw it on ABC7 a few minutes ago. It landed on the lake and will begin air operations tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing some footage of an old magnificent lady in action.

This is my own pic, circa 1993, last time I was on Vancouver Island.
Came across this one several years ago, location unknown.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Thu, 25 Oct 2007 01:35:48 EDT

americanada :

said by Bloominite :

The local news just had a live shot of it landing in Lake Elsinore.

I want one. That looked pretty cool.

Anyone have a clip of that?

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Thu, 25 Oct 2007 01:35:32 EDT

americanada : .

Cal Fire updates;

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:50:18 EDT

ghostpainter : That would be a classic Halloween moon but for the ash that is creating it.

CAL FIRE provided the following updates on fires.

Harris Fire
75,000 acres
10% contained
Full containment expected on the 28th and full control on Nov. 4th.
1,341 firefighters assigned and 7 injuries to firefighters.
Cost to date to fight the fires is $3,400,000.
155 homes destroyed
250 homes damaged
2 commercial properties and 17 outbuildings destroyed.
The returning onshore flow has moved the fire to the northeast
threatening structures along Highway 94 from Jamul to the east,
Lyons Valley to the north. The regional communications equipment on
Lyons Peak was damaged by fire, cutting off power and destroying the
back-up generator. Crews installed a portable repeater to support
fire communications. The fire progressed north in the Barrett Lake
area, consuming old, heavy fuels.

Witch Fire
196,240 acres
20% contained
No estimated containment or control, but little fire spread.
2,331 firefighters assigned to this fire
Cost to date to fight the fires is $5 million
Fire progression has slowed to the west, southwest, and northwest
due to improvement in weather and resources assigned to the fire.
Conditions in these areas have improved to the point of evaluating
the return of some residents. Winds in the fire area are still
variable with coastal influence returning to valleys. Warm, dry and
unstable conditions still exist at the higher elevations and the
eastern areas of the fire. The Poomacha Fire continues to burn close
to the north flank of the Witch Incident, they have NOT joined.

Rice Fire
9,000 acres
20% contained
Full containment expected on the 28th, with full control expected
November 5th
1,095 firefighters assigned
Cost to date to fight the fires is $1,283,133

Poomacha Fire
35,000 acres
10 percent contained
719 firefighters assigned.
12 injuries to firefighters.
Expansion of incident in a north easterly direction due to wind
shifts. Fire increased in size due to extreme fire behavior, lack of
resources and wind shifts. Perimeter control has been initiated and
structure protection is still in place. Evacuation centers continue
to be staffed and occupied.
Cost to date to fight the fires is $750,000.

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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:45:13 EDT

bskuared : It's awfully smokey here in San Clemente today...

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:32:02 EDT

Lovehound :

said by Bloominite :

said by No_Strings :

Two fires reported in Pendleton.

Las Pulgas 43 Area near Basilone Road and Camp Margarita 33 Area, behind the Marine Corps Air Station.

Isn't Las Pulgas Spanish for "the fleas"?

I've wondered that too Buggz. :) Actually, I think the Spanish for flea is pulgata but don't trust me on that. I'm too lazy to look it up online. Maybe we can get RFC Jack to do it. :)

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:27:34 EDT

No_Strings : Another blood-red moon earlier tonight.

Biblical prophecies, anyone?

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:12:38 EDT

CurtesyFlush : It is.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:10:10 EDT

No_Strings : You're asking the wrong gringo. I took two years of Latin.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:33:10 EDT

Bloominite :

said by No_Strings :

Two fires reported in Pendleton.

Las Pulgas 43 Area near Basilone Road and Camp Margarita 33 Area, behind the Marine Corps Air Station.

Isn't Las Pulgas Spanish for "the fleas"?

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:23:53 EDT

bjl : Santiago Fire 1.5 hours ago. Taken from Walnut offramp from Jamboree (Tustin/Irvine border), looking east.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:20:03 EDT

bjl :

said by Bloominite :

The local news just had a live shot of it landing in Lake Elsinore.

I was wondering about that... where they were going to "land" (water?) it.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:12:04 EDT

Bloominite :

said by Telly Boot :

One of the giant Martin Mars water bombers will be setting off for San Diego in a couple of hours:
B.C. water bomber leaves for California fires

The local news just had a live shot of it landing in Lake Elsinore.

I want one. That looked pretty cool.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:58:30 EDT

CurtesyFlush :

said by dogma :

Had this California disaster affected an L.A. "urban" area (vs. suburban), and those evacuees attempted to cross into the OC, I doubt their fortunes would have been much different than those "other" Americans at the Gretna border.

Utter, complete horseshit. Other than this, good points.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:52:19 EDT

Bloominite :

said by ghostpainter :

What it boils down too is that here in California we have a system in place that alerts all agencies and all agencies respond...And Dam the Politics.

Exactly!!

Our government works.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:52:03 EDT

dogma :

said by CurtesyFlush :

Is anyone else starting to make mental comparisons between the way Southern California handles mass evacuations of some 1 million people at short notice vs the way New Orleans and Louisiana handles it?

I am.

Apples and Oranges IMO, but here are the Differences in order:
1. Disaster here was sporadically dispersed over a geographic area the size of the entire State of Louisiana. The fires were not concentrated and localized in a extremely dense and older urban area.

2. Warning time. Katrina's time line was 48 hours elective evacuation and 12 hour mandatory evacuation. Despite what TeeeVee told us, the fact is 90% of NO residents were evacuated before Katrina hit. About 400,000 people, the largest evacuation in U.S. history to that point. Our fires, were easily escapable by simply driving a few miles to a Hotel or friends/family members home.

3. Evacuation routes. Immediately following the Levee breach, which was the real cause of the NO disaster, there were 20,000 - 30,000 residents who couldn't/didn't evacuate. Unlike our fires, where there are many routes out of an affected area, the geography of NO allows for only 2 or 3 routes out. 2 routes led East into an even more Hurricane devastated area, the other route headed West. An unfortunate fact is, in America in 2005:

said by CBS News--> »www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/12/···40.shtml :
{paraphrased by me}...displaced and dehydrated survivors who attempted to escape from New Orleans by walking over the Crescent City Connection bridge over the Mississippi River were turned back at gunpoint by City of Gretna Police, along with Crescent City Connection Police and Jefferson Parish Sheriff's deputies, who set up a roadblock on the bridge in the days following the hurricane. According to eyewitnesses, some of these officers shoot at New Orleans residents and tourists as they attempted to cross into Gretna on foot.

[edit: Inflammatory Horseshit removed]

4. Communications Disruptions. All local television stations were disrupted. No Cell phone service. No Internet. No power. No DSLR threads. This is a fact. It's almost impossible to coordinate emergency efforts with zero communication.

5. Hindsight. After Katrina, the fact is emergency response plans nationwide received $$$ Billions of Federal government (taxpayer) dollars so there wouldn't be another Katrina.

said by NewsVine--> »www.newsvine.com/_news/2007/10/1···er-plans :
FEMA has adopted a more aggressive stance toward disasters since Hurricane Katrina devastated parts of the Southeast in 2005. Paulison called it a "culture change" at FEMA.

No doubt those who were so upset that Federal taxpayer money was to be spent on NO post-Katrina (they didn't deserve the "welfare" it because it was their own fault for not leaving, or even living there in the first place), will be sending in their checks to reimburse the Fed for "welfare" $$$ spent here.

I can go on, with dozens more reasons supported by facts why there is a marked difference between the two events...but I have better things to do.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:51:16 EDT

seagreen : Let's keep this discussion more-or-less limited to California-fire-related stuff, please?

Plenty of time for analysis, blaming, finger-pointing, comparisons to New Orleans later (in another forum).

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:26:19 EDT

TCO1962 :

said by ghostpainter :

Im trying to stay away from the political junk but certain Dems are making that impossible....People buy into the Myth that Bush dropped the ball in New Orleans....Bush Declared a state of emergency two days before Katrina Hit and Called the Dem Governor to ask her what she needed.

She told him she did not need anything except money to buy what they needed.

There's a LOT more to that story than you'd care to discuss. Katrina was a colossal cluster fuck with plenty of blame to go around (including your boy George) As you say, lets not get political.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:17:47 EDT

ghostpainter : Im trying to stay away from the political junk but certain Dems are making that impossible....People buy into the Myth that Bush dropped the ball in New Orleans....Bush Declared a state of emergency two days before Katrina Hit and Called the Dem Governor to ask her what she needed.

She told him she did not need anything except money to buy what they needed.

And I dont buy into the hype that the only reason Bush is responding so fast now is because California is Lilly white and those are the only people being burned out...Last time i checked, California, especially San Diego, Escondido and Del Mar were populated by several different nationalities.

Malibu is Leftists and Rancho Bernardo is upscale true, but Running Springs and Grass Valley are Middle Class.

What it boils down too is that here in California we have a system in place that alerts all agencies and all agencies respond...And Dam the Politics.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:32:28 EDT

81399672 :

Yes, our governer earned his paycheck buy picking up phone and call hospitals himself to find open hospital beds, making sure that enough ambulance were available and etc. He basically slept 2-3 hours and got back to work and makde sure that everyone knew they will answer if they don't do what they supposed to.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:23:49 EDT

aztecnology : Now that the winds have shifted, the ash is building up and the smoke is settling in the valley...

ATTN: Newscasters

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:21:22 EDT

CurtesyFlush : It's Buckweed, not Buckwheat.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:08:16 EDT

CurtesyFlush :

said by TD Nickell :

You can always move back up hear,Jack!
We still have lots of room,even if some say different. :)

Nah, I'll stay put for now....
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:07:13 EDT

CurtesyFlush :

said by stormbow :

I think the main difference is we still have functioning infrastructure. When we load a stadium full of people, we can get food, medical supplies, sleeping bags, etc to them.

I'm referring more to the lack of action of getting people out of there before the water immobilized the area.

said by stormbow :

That doesn't mean the scumbag quotient didn't make it worse. :D

The scumbag quotient down in LA were state and local officials dropping the ball.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:58:09 EDT

TD Nickell : You can always move back up hear,Jack!
We still have lots of room,even if some say different. :)

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:57:29 EDT

stormbow : I think the main difference is we still have functioning infrastructure. When we load a stadium full of people, we can get food, medical supplies, sleeping bags, etc to them. They had a complete collapse in New Orleans. That doesn't mean the scumbag quotient didn't make it worse. :D

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:57:14 EDT

BUGZILLA 57 :

said by CurtesyFlush :

That's what I'm expecting to hear.....

I think it's your lack of "every man for himself" as noted above by americanada.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:54:21 EDT

CurtesyFlush : That's what I'm expecting to hear.....
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:49:21 EDT

No_Strings :

Yes. Qualcomm Stadium does not look like the New Orleans Convention Center or the Superdome.

We're richer & whiter, so we got more help.

That's the only reasonable explanation, right?

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:48:27 EDT

americanada : What I'm seeing is people helping people at all levels - personal, local, state, and federal - instead of every man for himself.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:41:23 EDT

CurtesyFlush : Is anyone else starting to make mental comparisons between the way Southern California handles mass evacuations of some 1 million people at short notice vs the way New Orleans and Louisiana handles it?

I am.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:11:16 EDT

TD Nickell : The Mars Water Bomber Site,with pictures! :)

»www.aviationtrivia.homestead.com/Mars.html
Hey thats a model airplane!LOL.The first pictures are real.
Ill look for the real thing.
»www.insidebayarea.com/oaklandtri···_7267914

»www.martinmars.com/

Fire Updates;

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:43:15 EDT

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:38:43 EDT

aztecnology : Dropping the red stuff...

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:33:33 EDT

aztecnology : Looks like there was just a drop by aircraft on the LE fire...

Re: New Start; Wesley Incident, Wildomar area

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:25:54 EDT

ghostpainter : The alerts are coming from several sources but mostly the EDIS California Alert page and three groups I belong too....CaliforniaDisasters, SolCalFire, and LAPD and LAFD alerts groups from Yahoo.

New Maps were just updated at the Governors emergency page

»www.edis.ca.gov/
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:23:39 EDT

aztecnology : I just saw a brand new fire in Lake Elsinore, just due west slightly south west of Lake Elsinore High School.

I15 Bundy Canyon Exit

Was just coming back from the Lake Elsinore Outlets, and saw it just before 1pm.

Didn't have my camera, but I'll try to get some pics from the house...
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:09:11 EDT

Tsume : »www.sdcountyemergency.com/

Just want to let everyone know they are hosting a map updated 10:30am of the SD county fires, progress, and evacuation zones.
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Re: New Start; Wesley Incident, Wildomar area

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:08:12 EDT

CurtesyFlush : Where are you getting that so I can monitor it ? That's where
our property is.
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Re: New Start; Wesley Incident, Wildomar area

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:04:57 EDT

ghostpainter : Wesley St. / Alameda Del Monte
Wildomar area Riverside County
4 acres with potential of 1000 acres
Heavy fuel
Medium ROS
Possible future structure threat.
Command
RRU-2
Tactical
RVC Tac-2

Air assets possibly 2-3 hours out.
Air attack is over incident.
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Re: New Start; Wesley Incident, Wildomar area

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:49:59 EDT

CurtesyFlush :

said by ghostpainter :

Wildomar area

That hits home. Gotta pay attention to this one.
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New Start; Wesley Incident, Wildomar area

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:45:19 EDT

ghostpainter : Wesley St / Alameda Del Monte
Wildomar area
Medium ROS
Heavy fuel
1/2 acre with potential for 100 acres.

RRU-2
RVC Tac 2

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:51:01 EDT

Ash3r : haha, they are pretty big. You can search up the mars water bombers and post some pictures, I'm at work so that wont work right now.. :hmm:

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:48:09 EDT

americanada : I grew up in Courtenay and as a kid went on many camping trips to Sproat Lake in the summers...I remember paddling a canoe up beside those behemoths parked on the lake and being awestruck.

Anyway, I was just saying to the guys here at work that they should send the world's largest water bombers down (what, there's something bigger than the Super Scoopers?) and sure enough here they (or one) comes...

CHP has arrested an adult male as he set fire in Rim Forest

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:06:04 EDT

ghostpainter : The California Highway Patrol has arrested an adult male who was caught Wednesday setting a brush fire in San Bernadino County, near Lake Arrowhead. San Bernadino County is another area hit hard by the fires, but it is not known if the suspect, John Hund,49, of Hesperia, was responsible for the earlier fires.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:59:50 EDT

corrosive23 : Reporting in from 40th/waterman in San Bernardino. Yesterday, chunks of ash the size of milkcartons were falling. 30th between "H" st. and Waterman looks like a night in Chicago. Ash falling like snow. As of this morning I can't see the house across the street. My wife who is a SBPD dispatcher has been put on Emergency 12 hour shifts and she took all out photos and external HDDs with her to work. I took copies of everything to my office in Chino Hills as a second precaution. I went outside to smoke and stopped after two drags because its just horrendous out there. Everything is covered in ash and the sky is a sickly orange. And the retard next door came out with his sunglasses on and went tearing down the street doing 70 like he always does. I hope he hits the guardrail where 30th turns into Lynwood. I will say I have been hearing choppers all night and have heard the trucks from the Hotshot station near by coming and going today.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:41:58 EDT

nightdesigns : Santiago Fire is 50% contained. OCFA was setting control fires last night and it seems to be steering the main fire to the east (takes me out of harms way too).
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Some Good News For a Change, Weather Wise that is.

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:39:59 EDT

ghostpainter : And some pictures during the sand storm we had here in Cucamonga and in Bloomington and the fire storm in Devore....Pictures are from the On line Daily Bulletin

...red flag warning cancelled for San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara counties... .Santa Ana winds will continue to diminish while high pressure over the great basin weakens and shifts east. Locally gusty northeast winds up to 40 mph are still possible through early afternoon...especially through and below passes and canyons. humidities will remain very low today with readings generally in the teens over Ventura and Los Angeles counties. over the next couple days winds will take on a more typical diurnal cycle with downslope/downvalley winds during the late night and early morning hours and upslope/up valley winds during the afternoon. Although there still could be some isolated gusts up to 25 mph Thursday morning...winds should generally remain below 20 mph. good humidity recoveries are expected near the coast tonight. However inland humidities will still remain quite low... generally only recovering to between 20 and 30 percent... then dropping back into the teens during the afternoon Thursday. over Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo counties...winds have weakened considerably and humidities recovered in many areas overnight. humidities today are expected to drop back down into the teens... however with much weaker winds and without widespread humidities at or below 10 percent red flag conditions are not expected and the warning has been cancelled. ...red flag warning is cancelled... the national weather service in Los Angeles Oxnard has cancelled the red flag warning. winds have weakened considerably and humidities recovered in many areas overnight. Although humidities are expected to drop back down into the teens again today...widespread red flag conditions are not expected.

area: San Luis Obispo county coast-Santa Barbara county north coast-Santa Ynez Valley-San Luis Obispo county interior valleys-Cuyama valley-San Luis Obispo county mountains / Los Padres National Forest-Santa Barbara county mountains / Los Padres National Forest-

Affected Counties or parts of: Santa Barbara, Ventura, San Luis Obispo, Los Angeles

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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:15:13 EDT

Ash3r :

said by HappyBunny :

That is awesome and thank you BC for sending it!

Your welcome! :D It should help you guys out a lot. It is the worlds largest water bomber. Hope it brings you guys some good luck!

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:56:37 EDT

aztecnology : Another great link with with live webcam images coming from the reserve on the plateau...

»wildfirealert.sdsu.edu/

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:51:41 EDT

aztecnology : Yeah, its really slow to load. I just hear Rick Roberts announce it on 760 kfmb...

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:49:57 EDT

ghostpainter : Thanks azt....Your first link is not working, the other two are fine.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:40:19 EDT

aztecnology : SDSU has a site up with links, fire maps, sat images, and more info...

»maps.sdsu.edu/

General info:
»advancement.sdsu.edu/fires/index.html

Sat images are coming from here:
»toae.org/

New Fire Start; in Jamul

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:33:49 EDT

ghostpainter : Good morning, or at least Morning....The winds have stopped here in Cucamonga, but it is very smoky and smoggy like I have not seen since the late 60's, excepting the 2003 fire event.

Much cooler here to day as well....We are watching a Cut Off low form off of the North West....This could be a blessing or a curse depending on how it drops down over the southland.

NEW: JAMUL FIRE UPDATE
8:23 a.m. - News 8 traffic reports indicate that there is a lot of
smoke coming from the southeastern part of Jamul and note that
firefighters are on scene. According to San Diego County Emergency
Services, there are no evacuation orders in place for Jamul at this
time.

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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:22:47 EDT

signmeuptoo : I just wanted to say Hi to everyone and let all of you there in SoCal know we are praying for you. I am so so sorry about what all of you are going through, Heaven Bless you all. I used to live in NorCal and almost moved to SoCal a few years back, I like it there and am very sad about all of this.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:57:24 EDT

HappyBunny : That is awesome and thank you BC for sending it!

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:25:19 EDT

Telly Boot : One of the giant Martin Mars water bombers will be setting off for San Diego in a couple of hours:
B.C. water bomber leaves for California fires
A Martin Mars water bomber was expected to leave B.C. at dawn Wednesday for San Diego, where weary U.S. crews are battling wildfires that so far have burned more than 750 homes and forced the evacuation of more than half a million residents.
The water bomber's owner, Wayne Coulson, flew with 10 employees to San Diego on Tuesday and will meet up with the aircraft as it arrives.

"We're really grateful to have it here," said Maurice Luque, spokesman for the San Diego fire department.
It would have been so wonderful to have had the Mars here a day or so ago when the fire first broke out," said Luque, adding that resources, personnel and equipment have been sent from Northern California to help out.

The fires could be larger than the ones that devastated the San Diego region in 2003, said Luque: "We thought we saw the last of fires of that magnitude but we definitely have that here."

Coulson Group had been anticipating a call for the water bomber and plans were in place to send it south.

"I've been down with San Diego fire department four times in the last five weeks working ... on placing the Mars down there for the Santa Anas," said Coulson on Tuesday. "We're ahead of the game, we've flown into a bunch of the water reservoirs down there so we have a sense of where we're going to go."

A tractor-trailer used for specialized maintenance and a fuel truck left for San Diego Monday.

This isn't the first time a Coulson-owned aircraft has fought wildfires in Southern California. A firefighting helicopter worked in the Los Angeles basin for five years.

"It's a natural fit for us," said Coulson. "We know everybody, we know what we're going into and everyone knows us. We're pretty pleased."

The water bomber will likely be put to work covering homes and structures with a protective covering called Thermo-Gel, which consists of 98 per cent water and a super-absorbent polymer.

Here's some video footage of it:

»youtube.com/watch?v=cN5PY91sO7A
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 02:21:46 EDT

81399672 :

said by americanada :

said by 81399672 :

when this site goes down, switch to back up server

Where might that be?

check pm

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 02:20:18 EDT

americanada :

said by 81399672 :

when this site goes down, switch to back up server

Where might that be?

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 02:19:15 EDT

81399672 : when this site goes down, switch to back up server

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 02:13:18 EDT

Tsume : Picture of the rice fire as we drove by on the I-15. Sorry for the bad quality, but it is a general idea of what it looks like. There were low flying helicopters picking up and dumping water on the fire. People were parked on the side of the freeway taking pictures and video.

Edit: Don't know if this has been posted but I believe this is the best map so far...

»maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&ms···z=8&om=1

Reminds me of the undead zones in WoW, on fire.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 02:09:46 EDT

Jtmo : Stay safe everyone, keep packed.
Send all my firefighters back home this time.
We just had the Steve Rucker golf tournament recently. No more please. When the firefighters say get out please go.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 01:56:56 EDT

No_Strings : Two fires reported in Pendleton.

Las Pulgas 43 Area near Basilone Road and Camp Margarita 33 Area, behind the Marine Corps Air Station.

»www.ocregister.com/news/camp-fir···rea-base

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 01:22:36 EDT

americanada : Now there's a fire threatening Camp Pendleton?

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:31:25 EDT

TwoFrogs :

said by heliox :

For me, this is 2003 all over again.

I was thinking the exact same thing. Viewed from Redlands, there appeared to be a swath of flareups perhaps two to three miles wide at the top of the ridgeline to the east and west of Running Springs. Hard to tell exactly where it was in the darkness, since there is none of the usual electrical illumination at all from the mountains. I couldn't believe it burned down into Fredalba. My wife said that it was reported that five homes one street over from our old home in Running Springs burned; we haven't heard any additional damage reports since then. It appeared that helicopters were making water pickups from the large pool at Camp Onacrest (or whatever it may be called these days) west of town.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:54:07 EDT

heliox : It just puts more distance between me and the flames...

thanks

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:53:05 EDT

Maleficent : These are from KNBC channel 4:

Important Phone Numbers: Fire Info

Animal Evacuations: 818-991-0071
Arrowhead Schools 909-499-9900
Buckweed, Canyon Fire: 323-881-2411
Coronado Hills Fire: 619-590-3160
Grass Valley Fire: 909-383-5688
Harris, Rice, McCoy Fire: 619-590-3160
Irvine: 714-628-7085
Lake Forest 714-628-7085
Malibu: 310-456-2489
Orange County 800-540-8282
Ranch Fire: 626-574-5208
Riverside: 909-955-4700
Roca Fire: 951-940-6985
Santa Clarita Evacuations: 661-295-6366
Santiago Fire: 714-573-6200
Sedgewick Fire: 805-681-5546
Witch Fire: 619-590-3160
US Forest Line: 626-574-5208
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:42:43 EDT

81399672 : if we are having problems now, what will happen in 5 years? double the fire? stay safe heliox
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:32:36 EDT

razorbackfan : I hated those winds and fires when I lived out there. Yall stay safe and we're praying for you.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:25:47 EDT

heliox : I just got my second "reverse 911" call of the evening.
The Voluntary Evacuation is for areas:
North of Highland Avenue and
East of the 330 (which is closed btw) and
West of Weaver.

For me, this is 2003 all over again.

The fire is north of the ridge, so things look fine so far.
Plus after 2003 they cleared a hundred or so acres...of course...to build more houses closer to the burn area. That area will be a great firebreak if it comes to that.

As of 830pm, no flames over the ridge.
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The Latest News; School closures Evacuations & returns

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:05:32 EDT

ghostpainter :

RESIDENTS ALLOWED HOME

If you live in the following areas, you can return home.

DEL MAR EVACUATIONS LIFTED All Del Mar evacuation notices lifted. The
City of Del Mar has lifted all evacuation notices within the city.
Residents who evacuated are allowed to return to their homes.

CHULA VISTA, SOLANA BEACH AND CARLSBAD SOUTH OF PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD:
The City of Chula Vista has lifted all evacuations for its residents.
Solana Beach residents are being told they can return to their homes.
Voluntary evacuations have been canceled for Carlsbad south of
Palomar Airport Road.

DEL MAR HEIGHTS: South of Via de la Valle, west of Interstate 5 and
north of Torrey Pines State Beach

NORTH COUNTY EVACUATIONS LIFTED: Mandatory Evacuations have been
LIFTED in San Marcos for San Elijo Hills and Coronado Hills.

SCRIPPS RANCH: South of Beeler Canyon Road, west of Sycamore Canyon
Road, east of Interstate 15 and north of Marine Corps Air Station
Miramar

POWAY residents, living in the following areas, are allowed to return
home:

South of Twin Peaks Road
East of Community Road to Tierra Bonita Road on the north
Donard Drive on the south
West of Ipava Drive
West and north of Poway Road

Before returning to these areas, call the following number first: .

This information is courtesy of the City of Poway Assessment teams.

HOMES COMPLETELY DESTROYED

Please note: The following homes have been confirmed destroyed by
News 8 reporters on the ground. This list is not official, or
complete.

Click here for list of detroyed homes >>

AREAS UNDER MANDATORY EVACUATION ORDERS

Evacuation Orders for Tuesday, October 23.

SAN PASQUAL VALLEY - South of the City of Escondido, West of Guejito
Truck Trail, East of Interstate 15 and North of Highland Valley Road.

NORTH RANCHO BERNARDO - South of Highland Valley Road, West of the
City of Poway, East of Interstate 15 and North of Rancho Bernardo Road

EASH RANCHO BERNARDO, RANCHO PENASQUITOS, 4S RANCH AND SANTA LUZ:
South of Lake Hodges, West of Interstate 15, East of Camino Del Sur
and North of Highway 56.

JULIAN EVACUATIONS - Mandatory evacuations have been ordered.

FAIRBANKS RANCH EVACUATIONS - Mandatory evacuations have been ordered
for about 1200 homes in Fairbanks Ranch.

ESCONDIDO - Evacuations are being ordered in Escondido from Via
Rancho PKY North to Hamilton and west to Valley PKY. Evacuations are
also issued for northeast Escondido in Mountain View north to Citrus,
then up to Bear Valley PKY to Lake Wohlford.

THE LA JOLLA INDIAN RESERVATION - A Mandatory Evacuation order has
been issued for the La Jolla Indian Reservation near Palomar
Mountain. A structure there is on fire and has started a brush fire,
burning approximately 150 acres so far. Several structures have
burned in that area near SR 76. Harrah's Casino is the evacuation
center for residents in that area.

WILDCAT CNYN & MUTH VALLEY SOUTH TO WILLOW RD - Reverse 911 calls
were sent out at the request of Lakeside Fire at 2:45 a.m. Tuesday
for all of Wildcat Canyon and Muth Valley south to Willow Road.
Evacuations are mandatory and 3,780 calls were sent out. Evacuees are
directed to Santana High School.

FALLBROOK - All of Fallbrook has been ordered to evacuate. At least
100 structures have burned in that area. The Sheriff's Department
reported at 3:04 a.m. Tuesday that the Fallbrook fire is moving east
toward De Luz Road.

THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS ARE EVACUATION SHELTERS:

Shelters that still have capacity:
Qualcomm Stadium
Del Mar Fairgrounds (families & small pets welcome)
Casa Familiar Civic & Recreational Center (South Bay)
Rock Church
Santana High School
Poway Community Park
Poway Girls & Boys Club
Campo Community Center
Mission Hills High School
Escondido High School - 1535 North Broadway
Santana High School - 9915 Magnolia Avenue (in Santee)
Ramona High School
Calvin Christian School
Carlsbad High School
Chula Vista Youth Center (on the campus of Chula Vista High School)
Casa Familiar Civic & Recreational Ctr in San Ysidro
El Camino High School
Encinitas Senior & Community Center
Escondido High School
Mira Mesa High School
Mission Hills Church
Mount Carmel High School
Naval Air Station North Island
Plaza Camino Real
Valley Center High School

SOUTH SHORES SHELTERS OPENED: South Shores and Ski Beach are open for
individuals with motorhomes. Park and recreation employees along with
lifeguards will be staffing these areas.

FIESTA ISLAND SHELTER OPENED: As of 4 p.m. on October 22, 2007,
Fiesta Island has been opened to accept up to 500 owners and animals
(livestock). This location will be staffed by Park and Recreation
employees and Park Rangers.

The following shelters have been reported as near or at capacity.
Please check shelter status before going:
Steele Canyon High School - 12440 Campo Road in Spring Valley
Escondido High School
Mira Mesa High School - 10510 Reagan Road (off Mira Mesa Boulevard)
San Marcos High School (temporary shelter).

- Residents forced to evacuate their families and belongings are
getting some help from U-Haul who announced that they will provide 30
days of free storage service. Click Here for more info >>

- There is additional room at Naval Base San Diego for active duty
military personnel, and their families. Sailors and their families
should report to the Admiral Prout field house at Naval Base San
Diego for evacuation housing. Click here for more information>>

FIRE ROAD CLOSURE INFORMATION

- 15 northbound/southbound off ramps to Mission Road
- 15 northbound/southbound off ramps to West Bernardo and Pomerado
Road
- 78 Bear Valley Parkway in Santa Ysabel
- Highway 76 at Mission Road, Pauma Reservation, Highway 67 at
- Poway Road and Highland Valley Road, Steel Canyon and Forest Gate
- Old Campo Road closed at Junction 54

South County:
SR-94 is closed between Otay Lakes Road and Forest Gate Road.

Campo:
All roads west of Forrest Gate Road and East of Otay Lakes Road.

Viejas:
Eastbound I-8 is closed at Willows Road, Westbound I-8 is closed at
SR 79.

Jamul:
Honey Springs road at Lyons Valley Road.

Alpine:
East Victoria between Otto & Overland Passage Road.

Buckman Springs:
Eastbound I-8 at Buckman Springs Rest Area.

Otay:
SR 94 at Melody

Chula Vista:
Paseo Veracruz and Mt. Miguel Road
Calle La Quinta and Mt. Miguel Road
Proctor Valley Road within the City of Chula Vista.

Ramona:
SR 78 at Magnolia Avenue.
Wildcat Canyon Rd, Willow Road to Ramona.

Julian:
Fire is burning on Eagle Peak at 7MM, west of Pine Hills Road.
Tree down at Detrich Way between Oak Grove Drive and Blue Jay.

Lakeside:
SR 67 is closed to Northbound traffic @ Mapleview.
Ashwood and Mapelview Closed

San Pasqual:
Eastbound SR 78 at Bear Valley Parkway.
San Pasqual Valley Road, Joe Bandy Canyon Road & 78/Weekend Villa.

Rancho San Diego:
Large Tree is down on Willow Glen at Hillsdale due to winds.

Elfin Forest:
A power pole with live wires is down at Country Club Lane.

Valley Center:
There is a tree in the roadway on SR-76 at Red Gate.

Rancho Santa Fe:
El Montevideo at Paseo Delicias.

Fallbrook:
Old 395 at Hwy 76 and East Mission - both ends.
Reche Road from Gird to Old 395.

SCHOOL CLOSURE INFORMATION FOR WEEK OF OCTOBER 22

All San Diego Public Schools are closed for the remainder of the week
All three MiraCosta College campus locations (two campuses in
Oceanside and one in Cardiff) are closed through the weekend. All
credit and noncredit classes held off-campus through the weekend are
cancelled. We expect to open for classes on Monday and will evaluate
the situation on Saturday. Please visit the MiraCosta College web
site at www.miracosta.edu for updates
National University has announced that all locations in San Diego
will remain closed and all on-campus classes in the County will be
cancelled through Wednesday, October 24. As always, updated
information can be found online at the University website, www.nu.edu
The University of Phoenix San Diego Learning Centers will remain
closed on Wednesday, Oct. 24.
ALL SAN DIEGO COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS WILL BE CLOSED TOMORROW (TUESDAY,
October 23).
Schools administered by the Archdiocese of San Diego will be closed
Tuesday, October 23.
Campuses in the San Diego Unified School District will be closed on
Tuesday, October 23.
The San Diego City College District, campuses and offices will be
closed as of 3 p.m. Monday. This closure affects 100,000 students and
6,000 employees.
Escondido Adventist Academy, a private K-12 school in Escondido will
be CLOSED Tuesday, October 23.
SDSU has announced all classes are cancelled for the remainder of the
day. Faculty has been asked to stay on campus until 2pm today.
Julian Elementary School, Julian Middle School, Julian High School
districts
Escondido Union Elementary School District
All schools within the Poway and Ramona Unified School Districts.
All schools in Jamul, Delzura Union School District
Steele Canyon High School
Dehesa Charter School in Escondido
Palomar Mountain Elementary School in Valley Center
Cornerstone Christian School in Poway
Arts & Letters in Rancho Bernardo
Newbridge School in Poway
Calvary Christian Academy in Chula Vista

NEW: GRANITE HILLS HIGH SCHOOL ADVISORY
Residents are advised that Granite Hills High School in El Cajon is
NOT a shelter location or donation drop-off site.
__________________________________________________________
_
NEW: MANDATORY EVACUATION FOR EAGLE PEAK AND CUYAMACA
A mandatory evacuation notice has been issued for Cuyamaca, just
north of State Route 79 and Eagle Peak in the Engineers Road area.
__________________________________________________________
Overnight parking allowed at NCTD
Residents are being advised that Granite Hills High School in El
Cajon is not a shelter location or a drop-off site.
__________________________________________________________
_
Overnight parking allowed at NCTD
North County Transit District will allow overnight parking of RVs,
trucks and cars in the Oceanside Transit Center parking lot.
Although no services are available at the transit center at night,
residents, visitors and those displaced by wildfires will have a
safe, secure location to park their vehicle.
The transit center is located at 195 S. Tremont Street in Oceanside.
The transit center has over 600 spaces on its surface lots
__________________________________________________________

NEW: HARRIS FIRE UPDATE
As of 8pm 72,000 acres burned. No homes lost in Eastlake, Spring
Valley, Bonita, Sunnyside and Jamul

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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:30:27 EDT

TD Nickell : Thanks for the update and reply Anon00 ! :)
Good to here!

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:21:49 EDT

Anon00 : Btw as far as I know
"Chula Vista
National City
Imperial Beach"
Haven't been damaged.

The only one that was even threatened is Chula Vista, but only the eastern parts.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:19:48 EDT

TD Nickell : Mount Palomar was my favorite place to go camping when i lived in San Diego. :(

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:15:07 EDT

aztecnology : Pics from practice. From Murrieta looking south to Palomar Mountain...

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:12:37 EDT

Anon00 : Cool. Too bad I don't have a non-blurry picture of the whole mountain. Wall of fire just creeping down. Got worse an hour after that, some real flare-ups but I don't know if it was the Fire crews that created some breaks before it hit the structures at the base, or the wind not blowing in our direction (or very hard, Santa Ana's seem to be hitting North County hard again today), or a combination of both, but as soon as it seemed to be threatening the base it seemed to die down enough until the sun came out and air support could go in.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:07:29 EDT

aztecnology : At my daughters soccer practice I could see the Pala fire cresting on Palomar Mountain...

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:03:01 EDT

TD Nickell :

said by CurtesyFlush :

Mandatory evacuations have been ordered for Trabuco Canyon and Trabuco Oaks. This from a resident friend of mine.

I was watching this on the news tonight,Jack it's damn sad I'll tell ya.
I was wondering how the cites where i lived faired?
Chula Vista
National City
Imperial Beach

I would hope the Navy and Marines are helping as much as they can.
I just heard on the news that we have Firefighters and Red cross folks on the way down to help.
All my thoughts,prayers and mojo going out to you guys.
I hope they can get a handle on these fires soon.
How are things in Fontana?

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:00:51 EDT

Just Rachel : Hi all. I've been saying many prayers for you all...and praying for rain. Stay safe everyone!!

My hubby called last night from San Pasqual High School in Escondido where he was sent with a dozer for the fires. This afternoon, looking at a fire map, it appeared that Escondido is a mess. I don't know if they're staging equipment somewhere else or not. Can anyone give me any info while I wait (and hope) for him to call tonight? Also...my step-daughter lives in Murrieta. How are things there?

Thanks much
Rachel

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:59:18 EDT

tmpchaos : Pulled a little more out of it...

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:48:37 EDT

Anon00 : Man I really wish I knew how to use this Camera (too new). This was the best shot I could get at ~1:50AM last night (or today actually...).

Picture is taken from my Patio and about an hour into the fire peaking over San Miguel Mountain and working its way down. Keeping original size, since this is BroadBand Reports... not Dial-Up Reports.

Chula Vista and Bonita seems no longer threatened but seems like its working its way back to Rancho San Diego and Jamul. Hopefully the winds cooperate since air drops are stopping. Hopefully those folks have some good fire breaks around their houses as its less Dense in most of those parts.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:36:05 EDT

nightdesigns : It looks like the Foothill ranch fire has been either knocked way down or put out. The Modjeska/Santiago is another story.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:08:46 EDT

willdoe : thanks Captain...

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:43:38 EDT

ghostpainter : Speaking of Evacuations....

NEW: EVACUATIONS LIFTED FOR CHULA VISTA, SOLANA BEACH AND CARLSBAD
SOUTH OF PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD
The City of Chula Vista has lifted all evacuations for its residents.
Solana Beach residents are being told they can return to their homes.
Voluntary evacuations have been canceled for Carlsbad south of Palomar
Airport Road.

CORRECTION- Evacuation of Some Areas of Rancho San Diego
In Rancho San Diego, the following areas are under mandatory evacuation:

From Del Rio Road EAST to Steele Canyon Road
From Fury Lane SOUTH to Millar Ranch Road and Millar Anita Road.

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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:58:32 EDT

CurtesyFlush : Mandatory evacuations have been ordered for Trabuco Canyon and Trabuco Oaks. This from a resident friend of mine.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:18:14 EDT

americanada : »www.fire.lacounty.gov/

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:18:00 EDT

Bloominite :

said by Gizy :

said by Vidya :

Hi,

Are there any fires in simi valley area..? there have been news reports for fire moving towards simil valley

I could use this info too. Last I heard the Magic Fire was coming over the backside of the hills and that Tapo Canyon at the very far end was precautionary evacuations. But getting news on it is hard, and that evac notice was earlier this morning.

»fire.countyofventura.org/

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:13:40 EDT

CurtesyFlush : Try the LA County Fire link that's buried somewhere in this topic.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:06:42 EDT

Gizy :

said by Vidya :

Hi,

Are there any fires in simi valley area..? there have been news reports for fire moving towards simil valley

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:05:07 EDT

Bloominite : it's reminding me of the Panorama Fire of 1980 combined with the Bear Fire OF 69. The city of Berdoo could be in deep doodoo by tomorrow morning if the shit hits the fan.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:57:38 EDT

bjl :

said by Bloominite :

from rimoftheworld.net:

All homes North of Highland Ave. in Highland have been given a voluntary evacuation. Information was from the San Bernardino sheriff's department.

and a bit before that:
"there is now a mandatory evacuation for all communities between Crestline and the Big Bear Dam."

They're expecting the "Slide" fire to come back around to Lake Arrowhead by nightfall. :(

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:52:22 EDT

aztecnology : Cal fire updates from CBS 8:
»www.cbs8.com/misc/fires_oct_07/s···nts.html

Google map of fires from KPBS - They lost their transmitter today :(
»maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&ms···e3357571

This map has the latest updates San Diego County Fires including the latest on Fallbrook, Palomar, Pala, Pauma, plus all the others...

Palomar mountain and Valley Center are now on evac...
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:51:20 EDT

Bloominite : from rimoftheworld.net:

All homes North of Highland Ave. in Highland have been given a voluntary evacuation. Information was from the San Bernardino sheriff's department.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:45:14 EDT

aztecnology : A couple more pics...

First is a pic looking south west towards the Santa Rosa Plateau.
»www.riversidecountyparks.org/par···plateau/

Second is looking south toward Palomar Mountain.
»www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=637
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Santa Rosa Plateau
Palomar

Santa Ana winds to continue tonight....

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:31:44 EDT

ghostpainter : The High is moving to the east so the wind will be shifting around, so expect more problems as the strong on shore breezes pick up...We are also watching a deep low appraoching the North west...It could produce a cut off low which could drop down over SolCal Friday with high NNW winds up to 50 and 60 mph into Saturday, which push the fires Back the other directions.

HOT...DRY SANTA ANA WINDS WILL CONTINUE TODAY ACROSS MUCH OF EXTREME SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA. WIND GUSTS UP TO 50 CAN BE EXPECTED BELOW AND THROUGH FAVORED PASSES AND CANYONS IN THE MOUNTAINS AND VALLEYS. THE OFFSHORE WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO DIMINISH GRADUALLY LATE THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH WEDNESDAY. THE SANTA ANA WINDS WILL CONTINUE TO BRING HOT AND DRY CONDITIONS TO THE REGION THROUGH WEDNESDAY...WITH A RED FLAG WARNING IN EFFECT FOR MUCH OF THE REGION. HAZARDOUS DRIVING CONDITIONS WILL PERSIST FOR HIGH PROFILE VEHICLES DUE TO THE STRONG WINDS. IN ADDITION... AREAS OF SMOKE... AND BLOWING DUST AND SAND WILL REDUCE VISIBILITIES BELOW ONE QUARTER MILE AT TIMES. ...WIND ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 PM PDT WEDNESDAY... ...HIGH WIND WARNING WILL EXPIRE AT 3 PM PDT THIS AFTERNOON... THE HIGH WIND WARNING WILL EXPIRE AT 3 PM PDT THIS AFTERNOON. A WIND ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 PM PDT WEDNESDAY. AREAS OF NORTHEAST TO EAST WINDS 20 TO 30 MPH WITH LOCAL GUSTS TO AROUND 50 MPH AT TIMES WILL PERSIST... ESPECIALLY THROUGH AND BELOW PASSES AND CANYONS. THE SANTA ANA WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO GRADUALLY WEAKEN THROUGH WEDNESDAY. AREAS OF SMOKE AND BLOWING DUST COULD ALSO LOCALLY RESTRICT VISIBILITIES TO LESS THAN A QUARTER MILE AT TIMES.

Instruction:
A WIND ADVISORY MEANS THAT WINDS OF 35 MPH ARE EXPECTED. WINDS THIS STRONG CAN MAKE DRIVING DIFFICULT...ESPECIALLY FOR HIGH PROFILE VEHICLES. USE EXTRA CAUTION.

Area: SAN BERNARDINO AND RIVERSIDE COUNTY VALLEYS-THE INLAND EMPIRE-SAN DIEGO COUNTY VALLEYS-RIVERSIDE COUNTY MOUNTAINS-SAN DIEGO COUNTY MOUNTAINS-

Affected Counties or parts of: San Diego, Riverside, San Bernardino, Orange

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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:13:23 EDT

aztecnology : According to Temecula News 27, the De Luz fires are contained. All visible smoke is coming from the Rice Canyon Fire in Fallbrook. I'm gonna snap some pics...

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:10:58 EDT

anon : Hi,

Are there any fires in simi valley area..? there have been news reports for fire moving towards simil valley

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:07:12 EDT

CurtesyFlush :

said by willdoe :

I have friends that live in the rancho penasquitos area. Does anyone know if that blaze has gotten that far?

thanks

Rancho Penasquitos is within the advisory evacuation area. Fairbanks Ranch which is approx 6 miles to the NE of RP was included in the mandatory evacuation orders as of 10:15am.

That's all I know.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:57:29 EDT

CurtesyFlush : Not as yet, it's still outside the boundary. But I expect it to enter the forest within the next 12 hours.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:53:32 EDT

aztecnology : Ghost and Cap, we've got about a little more than 3 or so hours until dusk, what's the wind situation looking like for tonight. Also, is the Santiago fire heading into the CNF...?

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:50:41 EDT

Bloominite : They're going to evacuate Mountains Community Hospital in Arrowhead. The fire is expected to hit arrowhead by dark and want to have the hospital evac'd ahead of the fire.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:38:45 EDT

willdoe : I have friends that live in the rancho penasquitos area. Does anyone know if that blaze has gotten that far?

thanks

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:29:20 EDT

CurtesyFlush : If this thing gets into the main part of Modjeska Canyon, it's all over for that little community. Narrow, twisting roads, old cabins, vegetation up the butt, and apparently the hydrants on Modjeska Grade road are dry.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:09:05 EDT

CurtesyFlush : Heavy concentrations of chaparral will burn black also.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:07:33 EDT

aztecnology : Looking out my window, those De Luz fires are getting bigger, and the smoke is turning black, which leads me to believe that houses and structures are being consumed. I'm gonna try and get some pics...

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:07:19 EDT

CurtesyFlush : Now it's starting to hit home. They're losing homes in Modjeska Canyon.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:05:32 EDT

ghostpainter : Very true....The Devore fires were all started by downed power lines and sparks, and a car fire near Sierra.

Only a few arson fires this time, but by my standards even a few is to many.

Here is an Update and the Newhall fire.

Both Super Scoopers are working the new Newhall fire. KCAL9 is showing one line of flames next to the Eternal Valley Mortuary and the 14 Freeway. This is near Pine St. and the Metrolink Station, according to the reporter. I know of Pine St and the railroad tunnel, but I didnt' know Metrolink had a stop there. Is that new? Anyway, it doesn't look too out of control at this time, but smoke is visible in the north SF Valley.

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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:00:14 EDT

americanada : This is not all arson...the one in Malibu was started by downed power lines...others get started by spreading embers...there aren't arsonists running rampant over California doing this, it is mostly the work of Mother Nature.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:55:15 EDT

Dude111 : Who started all these fires??????

This is pretty damn scary that someone could do this!

Re: New Start Orange County; Hwy 74

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:18:51 EDT

aztecnology : Temecula News Channel 27 is reporting that the De Luz fire has split into 3 different fires...

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:18:16 EDT

retropolitan :

sunset last night
today over Clairemont area San Diego

Re: New Start Orange County; Hwy 74

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:02:14 EDT

aztecnology : Larry Himmel, CBS 8 news anchor in San Diego reports from his own burned down house... :(

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKGF2bbxQ6E

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ4B8WzA9og

Re: New Start Orange County; Hwy 74

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:55:11 EDT

No_Strings : Fire burns through the canyon floor of Whiting Ranch near Serrano trail as locals gather to watch. Homes in Portola Hills can be seen along the ridge line. A scooper made a high-level pass above the area just after I took these shots.

Flare-up
Onlookers

New Scanner Feeds

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:41:22 EDT

ghostpainter : They may be busy so take your time.

From a post on Live_Scanner_Audio

»www.weatherserver.net/multifeed.htm - CNN Multicast 4 feeds
»www.nbcsandiego.com/videostream//detail.html
»www.10news.com/video//index.html
»www.knbc.com/videostream//detail.html
»abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?secti···rage&id=
»media.myfoxla.com/live/
»www.kusi.com/home/.html
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Re: New Start Orange County; Hwy 74

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:38:39 EDT

81399672 : Were is the help from nevada and arizona, they should have easily been able to get here in 1 day
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Re: New Start Orange County; Hwy 74

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:36:56 EDT

81399672 :

said by aztecnology :

Yes and no. I'm not against the plateau with all the brush, but I'm very close. I think we're relatively safe where we are...

The big worry is that up on the plateau is all national forest going back to the santiago fires...

Don't be a hero, if it's time go then it's time go. House can always be replaced.

New Start Newhall Area

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:36:21 EDT

ghostpainter : 4 air tankers and 4 strike teams of engines

14/San Fernando...

LAFD Engine 18 to sunshine helispot

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:36:11 EDT

81399672 :

said by ghostpainter :

The Devore Fire Came to within 2 feet of the back door of my Nieces Sister In law...she is here now sleeping...There is a fire up on the Old Hall Ranch now known as Little San Bernardino Mt. and she could not breath the smoke, although it is smokey here.

One of our residents just reported to me that his sister and family lost there home in Escondido, two weeks after her birthday.

Glad your nieces sister in law were lucky. Sad to hear about family losing homes

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:35:13 EDT

Ash3r : Seems to be smoke around you in all areas..is it getting hard to breath? Anyone herd anything about the wildlife around the fires?

Re: New Start Orange County; Hwy 74

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:34:03 EDT

ghostpainter : After getting a closer look, patrol reports the fire is on Camp
Pendelton Base. Orco assignment cancelled. Apparently 2 new starts on
the base within last hour (12:15pm).

Re: New Start Orange County; Hwy 74

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:31:43 EDT

aztecnology : Couple pics I took about an hour ago...

First pic is looking south to Temecula with Palomar mountain in the distance.

Second is looking north east over Murrieta with the smoke from Arrowhead in the background.

Temecula
Murrieta

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:31:08 EDT

ghostpainter : The Devore Fire Came to within 2 feet of the back door of my Nieces Sister In law...she is here now sleeping...There is a fire up on the Old Hall Ranch now known as Little San Bernardino Mt. and she could not breath the smoke, although it is smokey here.

One of our residents just reported to me that his sister and family lost there home in Escondido, two weeks after her birthday.

Re: New Start Orange County; Hwy 74

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:28:47 EDT

aztecnology :

said by 81399672 :

said by aztecnology :

said by ghostpainter :

O.C. patrol 7 reports new start on Hwy 74 Ortega Hwy approx. 8 miles
East of I-5.

TG (5F) 2992

That's way to close to me, especially with us due south and the wind blowing this way

you ready to evac?

Yes and no. I'm not against the plateau with all the brush, but I'm very close. I think we're relatively safe where we are...

The big worry is that up on the plateau is all national forest going back to the santiago fires...

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:24:49 EDT

Ash3r : wow 500,000. That is just insane. Any new pictures? Hope everyone gets out safe

Re: New Start Orange County; Hwy 74

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:24:34 EDT

81399672 :

said by aztecnology :

said by ghostpainter :

O.C. patrol 7 reports new start on Hwy 74 Ortega Hwy approx. 8 miles
East of I-5.

TG (5F) 2992

That's way to close to me, especially with us due south and the wind blowing this way

you ready to evac?

Re: New Start Orange County; Hwy 74

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:23:45 EDT

aztecnology :

said by ghostpainter :

O.C. patrol 7 reports new start on Hwy 74 Ortega Hwy approx. 8 miles
East of I-5.

TG (5F) 2992

That's way to close to me, especially with us due south and the wind blowing this way

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:23:44 EDT

81399672 : this is worse then major earthquake even 10.0

Any of out members lose houses here? I hope not
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New Start Orange County; Hwy 74

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:22:31 EDT

ghostpainter : O.C. patrol 7 reports new start on Hwy 74 Ortega Hwy approx. 8 miles
East of I-5.

TG (5F) 2992

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:22:19 EDT

nightdesigns : 500,000+ people evacuated in San Diego now
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:19:05 EDT

nightdesigns : How about that, this topic made the front page news (left side).

quote:
By late Monday, fires in Southern California had burned through 269,000 acres (roughly 420 square miles), and destroyed some 892 buildings. Our resident Southern California users are tracking events and evacuations in our regional user forums.

And it links to this topic.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:14:53 EDT

Tex Longhorn : San Diego Unified schools closed the rest of the week.

500,000 evacuated in SD county. That is 10 times the number evacuated during the cedar fire.

40 helicopters fighting the fire. I believe they said they hope to have 34 fixed wing by this evening.

Two new fires on Camp Pendleton.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:10:34 EDT

Bloominite : I was surprised to see anyone go public like that. In the past I've heard scanner traffic from various agencies bitching about SD's management but never anything public.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:06:33 EDT

nightdesigns :

said by Bloominite :

Is anyone else watching the press conference with OC Fire Authority? They're really bitching about the lack of available resources and laying a good bit of blame for today's lack of air support in OC on San Diego letting things get out of hand yesterday by not even knowing they (SD) were eligible for air support.

Todd Spitzer was really going off on that. Now that it has headed east, this will get really interesting.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:05:01 EDT

Bloominite : Is anyone else watching the press conference with OC Fire Authority? They're really bitching about the lack of available resources and laying a good bit of blame for today's lack of air support in OC on San Diego letting things get out of hand yesterday by not even knowing they (SD) were eligible for air support.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:59:56 EDT

aztecnology : Crews from Northern California are pouring into Fallbrook as state officials ramp up their response to a 5,000 acre fire threatening the town.

Fire officials say the so-called Rice Fire remains out of control. However, information is sketchy from the rugged hills and canyons where the fire is being fought.

»sosdfireblog.blogspot.com/2007/1···ire.html
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:50:57 EDT

Ash3r : Hello everyone, I've been reading all afternoon about all the fires. I hope everyone stays safe and good luck with everything that comes your way! My city of Kelowna,BC had a huge fire on our mountain a few years ago and I know how it feels :huh: good luck!

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:40:37 EDT

bskuared : here's a good map of the Santiago/Irvine Fire area

»maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&···383&z=12
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:52:13 EDT

onDvine :

said by CurtesyFlush :

... Now I'm in the city and don't have to put up with evacuating no mo.

My parents' house was in the middle of the Bel Air-Brentwood fire in Nov., 1961, and I was home from school that day to see it up close and personal. City cement and asphalt may not be as lovely as some hillsides are, but it sure does feel safer at times like this.

Hope all here are spared injury and property loss.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:37:09 EDT

aztecnology : Took the kids to school and ran a couple errands. Can really see the smoke west of Temecula going into De Luz, north side of Fallbrook, which is only about 2-3 miles away. I'm gonna try to take some pics in the next hour when I take my son to kindergarten...
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N Simi Valley Evacuation notice; Del Mar SD

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:08:20 EDT

ghostpainter : Per Ventura County SO, 9:25 am Tues

North unincorporated Simi Valley area: Recommended Evacuation notices made to
residents on Tapo Canyon Rd., Bennett Rd., and Ditch Rd. have now been changed
to Precautionary Evacuation notices.

Fillmore/Piru Area Fire: Recommended Evacuation notices have been made to
Fillmore area residents on Goodenough Rd. and Grand Ave.

mandatory evacuation order remains for all areas of Crest Road, and San
Dieguito Drive, Oribia Road, Avenida Primavera along Crest Road,
Serpentine Drive, Gatun Street, Balboa Avenue and Zapo Street.
City leaders strongly suggest residents in other areas of the city to be
packed and ready to evacuate, and to keep informed of the fire's
movement.
Resident unable to self-evacuate should call .

In Carlsbad, there was no immediate threat, but officials were
monitoring
the situation. The city was under voluntary evacuation. Residents were
told not to wait to leave if they saw smoke or fire.

City offices and libraries remained open. Information is being updated
on a recorded line at the city's emergency operations center: .
----------------------------------------------------------

Updates on Harris, Witch, Poomcha, Rice and McCoy fires
Posted @ 9:36 AM
The Harris Fire is 70, 000 acres and 5% contained. Firefighters are
looking for full control of this fire on November 4th.

250 residences have been damaged and 200 have been destroyed. 5
firefighters and 20 civilians have been burned and there was 1 civilian
fatality. Currently we have 65 Engines, 9 fire crews, 2 dozers, 5 water
tenders, 3 airtankers, 2 helicopters, 2 helitankers, (500
firefighters).

Areas threatened: regional communications site on San Miguel Mountain.
Power grid and sub station, Water treatment plant, Chula Vista, San
Diego, Potrero, Barrett Junction, Barrett Lake area, Engineer Springs,
Dulzura, Deerhorn Valley, Lawson Valley, Jamul, Lyons Valley area and
Otay Mountain.

The fire burned 50+ homes in Deerhorn Valley Fire and Honey Springs.
Fire moved rapidly to the west/southwest to Chula Vista and Otay Lake
and north to the south end of Barrett Lake. Firefighters are engaged in
protecting a critical Power Grid sub-station and a water treatment
plant.

The Witch Fire is 164,000 acres and 1 percent contained. There have
been 7 injuries to firefighters and to 2 civilians. Communities
Threatened: San Diego, Poway, Ramona, Escondido, Lakeside, Valley
Center, San Marcos, Rancho Santa Fe, Rincon, Wildcat Canyon.

Currently there are 218 engines, 17 dozers, 14 fire crews, 17 water
tenders (1492 firefighters). 500 residences destroyed - 250 damaged,
100 commercial properties destroyed – 75 damaged, 50 outbuildings
destroyed – 50 damaged.

The Rice Fire is 6,100 acres and 0% contained, firefighters are looking
for full containment on November 1st. 500 residences have been
destroyed and 30 have been damaged. 1 Firefighter has been injured.

Currently there are 55 engines, 6 fire crews, 1 dozer (170
firefighters). Fire is making major runs toward Fallbrook, and may burn
in to Santa Margarita and Sandia Creek drainages.

It is anticipated this fire will combine up with Rosa fire which
started in Riverside.

The Poomacha Fire is 1,000 acres and 0% contained. This fire is located
at Highway 76 and Pauma Valley (Thomas Brother Map Page 409 E7).

The fire originated in a structure and spread into the vegetation.
There has been 8 injuries to firefighters.

There are 15 engines, 2 water tenders (60 firefighters). The fire
started on the La Jolla Indian Reservation. The fire has spread into
Valley Center and Yellow Brick Road areas. Law Enforcement has started
the reverse 911 to initiate evacuations of entire Hwy 76 corridor.

The McCoy Fire is a U.S. Forest Service fire and is 300 acres and 50%
contained, full containment is expected on the 23rd. 1 structure has
been destroyed and there have been no reported injuries.
__________________________________________________________

Road closures due to fires
Caltrans reports these highway closures due to fires:

* State Route 67 between Scripps Poway Parkway and Highland Valley Road
* State Route 76, Valley Center to SR-79
* State Route 78, Haverford Road to Santa Ysabel and westbound at
Banner Grade
* State Route R-79, SR-78 to SR-76
* State Route 94, Steele Canyon Road to SR-188
* State Route 188 closed in both directions

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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:50:33 EDT

retropolitan : Latest map showing fires and evac areas from KPBS San Diego.

»maps.google.com/maps/ms?uid=1123···e3357571

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:43:14 EDT

Owlbet :

said by 81399672 :

time to change the tile of the thread to Southern California is on fire

No, the title should be something along the lines of:

Southern California: Hell on Earth :huh:

Stay safe everyone

High Wind Warnings;

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:30:58 EDT

ghostpainter : Good morning....Had evacuees from Devore here last night...Late night as you can imagine.

A HIGH WIND WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 3 PM PDT THIS AFTERNOON. AREAS OF STRONG NORTHEAST WINDS BETWEEN 30 TO 50 MPH WITH LOCALLY DAMAGING WIND GUSTS PEAKING TO 70 MPH WILL CONTINUE THROUGH PASSES AND CANYONS UNTIL MID AFTERNOON TODAY...THEN WEAKEN TO BELOW WARNING STRENGTH.

Area: SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS RECREATIONAL AREA-

Affected Counties or parts of: Santa Barbara, Ventura, San Luis Obispo, Los Angeles

A HIGH WIND WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 3 PM PDT THIS AFTERNOON. EAST TO NORTHEAST WINDS BETWEEN 25 AND 35 MPH WITH LOCALLY DANGEROUS GUSTS PEAKING TO 60 MPH WILL CONTINUE BELOW PASSES AND CANYONS THROUGH MID AFTERNOON TODAY... THEN WEAKEN TO BELOW WARNING STRENGTH.

Area: VENTURA COUNTY COAST-

Affected Counties or parts of: Santa Barbara, Ventura, San Luis Obispo, Los Angeles

A HIGH WIND WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 3 PM PDT THIS AFTERNOON. AREAS OF NORTHEAST WINDS BETWEEN 25 AND 35 MPH WITH LOCALLY DANGEROUS GUSTS PEAKING TO 65 MPH WILL CONTINUE BELOW PASSES AND CANYONS FROM MALIBU THROUGH THE HOLLYWOOD HILLS UNTIL MID AFTERNOON TODAY...THEN WEAKEN TO BELOW WARNING STRENGTH.

Area: LOS ANGELES COUNTY COAST INCLUDING DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES-

Affected Counties or parts of: Santa Barbara, Ventura, San Luis Obispo, Los Angeles.

A HIGH WIND WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 3 PM PDT THIS AFTERNOON. AREAS OF NORTH TO NORTHEAST WINDS BETWEEN 30 TO 45 MPH WITH LOCALLY DAMAGING WIND GUSTS PEAKING TO 65 MPH WILL CONTINUE THROUGH AND BELOW THE FAVORED PASSES AND CANYONS UNTIL MID AFTERNOON TODAY...THEN WEAKEN TO BELOW WARNING STRENGTH.

Area: VENTURA COUNTY INTERIOR VALLEYS-VENTURA COUNTY COASTAL VALLEYS-LOS ANGELES COUNTY VALLEYS-SANTA CLARITA VALLEY-

Affected Counties or parts of: Santa Barbara, Ventura, San Luis Obispo, Los Angeles
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:27:54 EDT

en102 : Just a little smoke here in Valencia today... Sunday was a lot of smoke (Agua Dule Fire) and yesterday had a lot of smoke (blowing west) from Stevenson's Ranch.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:22:25 EDT

Jeffrey : I hope you all get the help you need out there to put out the fires.

Stay safe, and we're all wishing you the best from this side.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:18:31 EDT

zskyline : Stay Safe everyone!! Wish you people all the best out there!!!

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:22:43 EDT

Anon00 : Well looks like the fire over here may not continue to move north so I probably won't end up evacuating. Good news for us, bad news for the people at the West of us.

Last night the movement seemed to significantly slow around 3:00AM and it seems that the winds aren't as strong as it was yesterday. Hopefully it will stay that way and the fire crews will have time to do some air drops and nip it in the bud.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:12:22 EDT

aztecnology : Seems someone picked up on the mic feed in the bacground, its gone spotty, and now there are commercials..

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:11:18 EDT

aztecnology : »www.nbcsandiego.com/index.html

Red banner news - Live Video SD Firestorms

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:05:28 EDT

CurtesyFlush : wHERE DO i GET THAT FEED?

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:59:13 EDT

aztecnology : Anybody watching nbcsandiego.com online feed - can hear all the discussions on mic when they are in the commercial breaks. All the today show people, lauer in sd and arnie...

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:51:02 EDT

nightdesigns : OC Fire has moved southwest towards Glenn Ranch Road and Saddleback Ranch Road.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:50:07 EDT

aztecnology : Seems to be a new fire in Temecula west of 15, 100 acres or so. About 5-6 miles from me. I can see the smoke from my window, hardly any updates though...

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:22:26 EDT

heliox : Not In-n-Out !!!!

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:11:04 EDT

Tex Longhorn : Two maps from the Union Tribune that show what has happened.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:46:58 EDT

Anon00 :

said by CurtesyFlush :

Well, good luck. Been there, done that times 2. Now I'm in the city and don't have to put up with evacuating no mo.

First time for myself, very new experience.

Fire looks to be getting worse not better. Hoping they're prepping to defend by the structures close to the base.

Power is also getting bad so last post for awhile, shutting down and going to finish up packing. Peace!
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:09:39 EDT

CurtesyFlush : Well, good luck. Been there, done that times 2. Now I'm in the city and don't have to put up with evacuating no mo.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:06:47 EDT

simplykristi : You better be keeping an eye on it. Be prepared to leave. If they issue mandatory evacuations for your area of SV, just go!

Stay safe!

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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:02:11 EDT

Anon00 : Less than 7 miles from El Cajon (lol can you believe I never heard that abbreviation and I was born and raised here) taking the freeway (winds around). I'm going to need to shutdown my desktop soon and pull my hard drives. I'll have my laptop with my cell if I ever need to get online if something happens to my house after this is all said and done.

I haven't heard evacuation for our parts, Spring Valley is rather large with the outskirts being threatened early by the fires. I'm in a more densely populated area, nestled in between El Cajon, La Mesa, Lemon Grove, Chula Vista/Bonita, and National City.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:54:58 EDT

simplykristi : Are you not in an evacuation zone? The Union Tribune sounded like Spring Valley was being evacuated.

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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:53:26 EDT

simplykristi : Here's the link: »sosdfireblog.blogspot.com/

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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:50:58 EDT

CurtesyFlush : El Cajon

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:48:36 EDT

Anon00 :

said by CurtesyFlush :

How far away is it from you now? Also, how far south of EC are you?

EC?

LoL I'm really bad at distance... but has to be less than 10 miles (as the crow flies)? Its coming down the mountain now. I have a view from my window, it looked like it was peaking an hour ago. Now there's a whole line coming down the mountain. Think I'll snap a few pics.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:46:34 EDT

CurtesyFlush : How far away is it from you now? Also, how far south of EC are you?
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:42:44 EDT

simplykristi : I will when I can get to another site besides DSLR. My DSL connection is acting up right now. :( I think it is telling me to go sleep. :)

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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:33:35 EDT

CurtesyFlush : Could you link to that Kristi?

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:31:56 EDT

simplykristi : Looks like you have to evacuate. I just read that on the SD Union Tribune's blog.

Stay safe!

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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:13:04 EDT

Anonymous_ :

said by Maleficent :

Wow! Just saw footage of that DC-10 dropping fire retardant on one of the fires. Impressive!

Yea i saw it Live! in HD
around 4 or 5 today

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:11:20 EDT

Maleficent : Wow! Just saw footage of that DC-10 dropping fire retardant on one of the fires. Impressive!
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:10:48 EDT

Anon00 : :( Looks like the Harris Fire (South East San Diego County) is coming over the mountain by where I live ("San Miguel" if anyone is curious).

If it hits the populated zone on the mountain I really have to wonder if they have a chance to contain it. Lots of shake shingles and crap here... our area hasn't been threatened by a wildfire in the 25 years I lived here.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 03:17:37 EDT

CurtesyFlush : The U.S. Forest Service does so on a regular basis, drawing manpower assets from the entire country. Local and State agencies do so in extreme situations like now. I know of some AZ and OR units that are in So Cal or on the way.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 03:13:35 EDT

Maleficent : Don't they call in firefighting crews from other states too? Seems I remember crew from Idaho coming down to fight some of our fires in the past.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 03:11:28 EDT

CurtesyFlush :

said by dogma :

Our La Dera County Fire Station is dark. Literally, the big garage doors are closed and the lights are off. All of the equipment (apparatus?) is gone, and has been all day. The only vehicle left is a Paramedic truck. Inglewood's two closest stations are skeletal as well.

That's a good indicator of just how stripped the manpower situation is. In normal times (i.e. times when 50 million brush fires weren't burning at once) those stations would be covered by move-up crews, even if those crews had to come from other parts of the state. I can recall moving up to cover King City headquarters fire station all the way up in Monterey County.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 03:05:33 EDT

americanada : I hear ya...when I was in the Fire Service we never trained on wildfires because they rarely if ever happened...we did a lot of structure fire training in concrete burn buildings and at abandoned-soon-to-be-demolished houses...

But these wildfires are a totally different animal and I can only imagine the logistics involved in fighting them.

Hats off to the firefighters on the lines but also to the guys in the background who manage and coordinate the efforts.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 03:01:28 EDT

CurtesyFlush : That's called Know Thy Enemy.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:59:23 EDT

americanada : My GOD, you are just a wealth of information! :)

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:57:08 EDT

CurtesyFlush : Certain plant members of the chaparral biome protect themselves from moisture loss due to heat and low humidity by exuding a paraffin like substance that coats their leaves. It's almost as bad as throwing gasoline on the brush. An excellent example of one of the biome's most volatile (and common) plants is Chamise (Adenostoma fasciculatum), aka Greasewood.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:42:48 EDT

dogma : Our La Dera County Fire Station is dark. Literally, the big garage doors are closed and the lights are off. All of the equipment (apparatus?) is gone, and has been all day. The only vehicle left is a Paramedic truck. Inglewood's two closest stations are skeletal as well.

I can now see the flames peaking above the Santa Monica Mountains (I think that's what they are) as they are reaching the ridge...and I am about 30 miles away.

When I moved to this house 15 years ago, I remember seeing the last big Malibu fire from here. Once it made the summit, it came running down the entire South face in a matter of a couple hours.

Is that scrub brush (if that's what it is) especially loaded with resin? Is that why these type of fires can burn so fast?

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:05:01 EDT

americanada : KCAL has gone back to normal programming...Southpark is now on...

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:55:46 EDT

captnhook : Seeing as how some have mentioned loss of TV I thought I'd post links to the couple of live TV news feeds I've been watching.
*note during commercials they broadcast nothing.

Fox LA

KGTV

KNBC

If anyone has the direct link to the KCAL feed or any others please post them. Thanks

Stay safe!

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:53:16 EDT

americanada : New fire now in Santa Clarita...

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:39:34 EDT

americanada : I don't know if this has been posted but some good info here:

»www.fire.lacounty.gov/

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:29:31 EDT

CurtesyFlush :

said by nightdesigns :

It was interesting to see how the OCFA works. Since the wind was blowing away from the houses, they were just letting it burn. They weren't concerned with the houses on that ridge going up.

That's standard wildland strategy. That fuel they let burn now won't be a problem if things start turning around on them later.
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Re: Quick Info

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:28:40 EDT

nightdesigns :

said by CurtesyFlush :

The canyon that bisects FR, is it burning?

Look here: »maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&g···ddr&om=1

It started in the upper left, worked it's way around down the middle and is now working it's way up and around, down to the right. I was taking the pictures on the right hand side.
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Re: Quick Info

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:25:35 EDT

CurtesyFlush : The canyon that bisects FR, is it burning?

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:17:52 EDT

nightdesigns : I drove over to foothill ranch and got these pictures. They were from the corner of Rosette and Touraine in the ravine behind the houses. It was interesting to see how the OCFA works. Since the wind was blowing away from the houses, they were just letting it burn. They weren't concerned with the houses on that ridge going up.

It's amazing how much just a little wind will make that flair up. A slight breeze and flames were shooting 50 feet into the air.

The fire is now slowly heading south towards Glenn Ranch Road and the Oakley Factory.
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Google map with clickable links for more info

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:15:28 EDT

amysheehan : Google Map of Wildfires
Created by ABC7 Eyewitness News on Oct 22 -

»maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&ie···ce=embed

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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 00:48:06 EDT

81399672 : wind is going crazy in the valley right now, hope everyone in malibu is okay
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 00:27:22 EDT

Tex Longhorn : Interesting article on all the athletes that are affected by the fire. Several big name players live in the area.

»sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/f···dex.html
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 00:15:43 EDT

bskuared : yup a crazy day in Orange County. Lots of smoke and fire up in Irvine/Lake Forest today.

I think the soot from all of OC ended up in San Clemente... lol... I made the mistake of leaving my bathroom window open last night. Was black with soot this morning.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:57:57 EDT

ghostpainter : Thank you for the correction...I should know better...I know the people who put the program together, got the funding from the state and federal government since they wanted to include CDF and the Feds.

The initial program cost $12 million to fund and they almost blew it because it originally was set up to work on 800 trunking only....Except that presented a problem....After the initial tones went out, the trunking system went on and various inspectors and some units had to call in for the rest of the information.

They correct the problem by adding in the old 150.000 Radio Frequencies.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:57:01 EDT

supertbone : I didn't know there was a fire in Agua Dulce / Santa Clarita area till I saw it on the news. When there is a fire in that area the Antelope Valley always fills with smoke. The Santa Ana's blew it the other way. I could see the smoke coming from the back side of Lake Arrowhead though.

The roads in San Francisquito, Bouquet, and Vazquez Canyons have been shut and a couple of bridges knocked out in the Bouquet Canyon area. Sierra Highway was shut for awhile but is now open. On a sad note I heard that Heads-Up Therapy on Horse Back ranch which provides therapeutic horse riding for disabled kids burnt down.

Schools were closed in Acton, Agua Dulce, Canyon Country, Santa Clarita, and Saugus. Saugus HS and Quartz Hill HS (in the Antelope Valley) are being used as shelters.

Today I was on the twelfth floor of a high rise in the Universal City area and I could see the smoke from Piru, Agua Dulce, and Chatsworth dumping into the San Fernando Valley. What a sight.

Re: Quick Info

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:23:07 EDT

No_Strings : We're in good shape, thanks. It's passed us (we hope).

The fire is burning through the canyon - the Whiting Ranch wilderness - and so people who are on the edge of the canyon, especially the eastern edge, are potentially in trouble.

It's very sad to be watching friends on TV wetting down their palms and to think about the beauty of that canyon being destroyed. I just rode my bike through there on Saturday.

Re: Quick Info

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:17:04 EDT

bjl :

said by No_Strings :

No. We're ready, but it's not likely. Some of our friends had to.

edit: Thanks for asking.

How are you doing? We're seeing on KCAL flames getting close to homes in Foothill Ranch.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:07:14 EDT

81399672 :

said by retropolitan :

Good luck man. I'll be thinking positive thoughts.

positive thoughts are no substitute for action.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:03:37 EDT

Jameson : Thank you all

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:58:54 EDT

retropolitan : Good luck man. I'll be thinking positive thoughts.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:43:10 EDT

w6bi : I think it's "CLEMARS"; California Law Enforcement Mutual Aid Radio System. There's some info here »www.freqofnature.com/index.php?m···al%20OES

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:34:13 EDT

simplykristi : Stay safe!

Kristi

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:33:14 EDT

Jameson : will do

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:32:25 EDT

CurtesyFlush :

said by Jameson :

said by CurtesyFlush :

Is the Fallbrook fire a new one?

Were having mandatory evacs, but we cant leave, we have to many animals :(

I wouldn't leave my animals either. Be safe.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:25:42 EDT

Front :

said by americanada :

said by markwp2001 :

Has anyone from New Orleans made any snarky comments about not building houses in dry deserts? Let me be the first ..... ;)

/Just kidding, y'all stay safe out there, we're praying for you.

No but I thought it was interesting that Shrub (Bush, Tree, whatever his name is) called Arnie within hours to offer any and all federal assistance, in stark contrast to Katrina when he was nowhere to be found for days.

Very well said. This is exactly what I was thinking.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:25:41 EDT

Jameson :

said by CurtesyFlush :

Is the Fallbrook fire a new one?

Were having mandatory evacs, but we cant leave, we have to many animals :(

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:09:57 EDT

aztecnology :

said by CurtesyFlush :

Is the Fallbrook fire a new one?

From earlier today, mid morning or so. Started on the Rainbow side of I15, jumped to the Fallbrook side...

Radar of current wind speeds

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:06:45 EDT

ghostpainter : [att=1,l]

Interesting...

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:04:13 EDT

CurtesyFlush : Is the Fallbrook fire a new one?

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:58:21 EDT

aztecnology : The Temecula news channel just reported that over 1000 structures have burned in San Diego.

CBS has confirmed home addresses that have completely burned as witnessed by reporters...

»www.cbs8.com/

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:49:15 EDT

ghostpainter : We have something else in place here that was also lacking in LA and Gov. Blanco could have used and that is Mutual Aid and Clamares that was set up years ago for situations just like this, although right now there are so many fires burning that even that situation is overwhelmed but it is working.

Every one talks to everyone else, and political lines don't mean a thing...something other states and agencies could learn if they wanted too.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:41:47 EDT

aztecnology : So I went through all the trouble of getting the antenna to the hdtv and got lucky. I picked up Temecula News channel 27 (on channel 78 no less).

Got me up to speed on the Aguanga and Fallbrook fires...

»www.youtube.com/kzswtv

»www.kzsw.tv/

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:02:45 EDT

aztecnology :

said by retropolitan :

Have you tried pulling them in on your HDTV using it's built in tuner? That's how I am viewing. My digital cable went out about an hour ago and Time Warner's tech support is closed.

My hdtv is 4 years old and does not have an built in tuner. But no, i tried it on the bedroom tv upstairs. Pulling the tv out of the entertainment center to hook up the rabbit ears is a little more than i'm willing to do at this point. The online feed is working well. Although it looks like nbc just went to the national nightly news...
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:52:29 EDT

Bloominite :

said by americanada :

No but I thought it was interesting that Shrub (Bush, Tree, whatever his name is) called Arnie within hours to offer any and all federal assistance, in stark contrast to Katrina when he was nowhere to be found for days.

Bush talked with governor Blanco before the hurricane hit and offered any help she needed in advance of the storm. She said all LA needed was cash and he delivered that immediately. The state of emergency was only declared by Gov Blanco after strong urging by Bush.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:46:42 EDT

CurtesyFlush : All normal on TW.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:45:42 EDT

americanada :

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:41:26 EDT

nightdesigns : This is totally bizarre, I don't know if it's my tivo or cox cable or more, but TV channels 2, 4, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13(all broadcast) have frozen. A tower get taken out?
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Re: Carlsbad

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:41:16 EDT

jhalleau :

said by sashwa :

I'm sorry but I don't know where in Carlsbad they are/were. Hope your dad is okay.

Just got off the phone with him. All is good, he said theres no wind, but they are starting to see some ash. He was not going to evac at this point, he didnt see a reason to, he was off to the store to get some wine! :D
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Re: Governor calls in the state National Guard

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:33:13 EDT

nirvansk815 :

said by ghostpainter :

"...I want to commend all of the
brave firefighters that have been battling the blazes around our state.
They have done an extraordinary job," said Governor Schwarzenegger.

I share these sentiments.
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Re: Quick Info

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:30:44 EDT

nirvansk815 : Hopefully the fire goes the other direction up there...My girlfriend's father had to evacuate up in Saugus this morning... It's amazing how many fires are burning in SoCal right now... I hope the arsonist is caught for this mess (in Santiago fire at least)
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Governor calls in the state National Guard

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:29:45 EDT

ghostpainter : Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger has directed the California National
Guard to assign 1,500 guardsmen to the firefighting efforts. The 1,500
guardsmen, including 200 troops currently patrolling the
California/Mexico border, will be deployed at the direction of the
Governor's Office of Emergency Services to areas where they can have
the greatest impact.

"It is a tragic time for California. I saw the tremendous devastation
caused by these fires first hand today and I want to commend all of the
brave firefighters that have been battling the blazes around our state.
They have done an extraordinary job," said Governor Schwarzenegger. "We
have the best-trained, the best-equipped and the most experienced
firefighters in the world and I am committed to making all of the
state's resources available to them to get these fires under control.
That is why I have declared a state of emergency and directed the
National Guard to support the firefighters in Southern California.

"I urge everyone to follow the directions and evacuation orders issued
by the emergency personnel."
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Re: Quick Info

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:24:19 EDT

No_Strings : No. We're ready, but it's not likely. Some of our friends had to.

edit: Thanks for asking.

Re: Quick Info

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:22:54 EDT

nirvansk815 :

said by nightdesigns :

# Firefighters have ordered mandatory evacuations in Foothill Ranch, on La Solita, La Perla, Pandale and Calle Cabrillo. - 2:56 p.m.

No_Strings have you had to evacuate? Is the fire close to your neighborhood?
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:19:43 EDT

CurtesyFlush : It's pretty in New Orleans too.

Pretty hot, humid, damp, sticky and buggy.

EDIT: And smelly.

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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:12:29 EDT

No_Strings :

said by markwp2001 :

said by No_Strings :

I'm sure it sounds crazy to you, but to us it makes way more sense than building a house below sea level in a river delta.

Actually I was kidding, though I'm not sure why it "makes way more sense".

I know you were kidding.

It makes way more sense because it's pretty here.

San Diego County Emergency webpage

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:06:18 EDT

ghostpainter : They have the latest updates for San Diego;

»www.sdcountyemergency.com/

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:58:18 EDT

retropolitan : Have you tried pulling them in on your HDTV using it's built in tuner? That's how I am viewing. My digital cable went out about an hour ago and Time Warner's tech support is closed.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:50:57 EDT

aztecnology :

said by bjl :

said by CurtesyFlush :

Are the L.A. news stations aware of the existence of San Diego County?

They're barely aware of Orange County, you expect them to know about SD? ;)

I've been watching/listening to KNSD online (nbcsandiego.com).

Same here. I even pulled out some amplified rabbit ears from the garage, and I still can't pick up any of the sd channels.

Online video coverage is good...

Re: Carlsbad

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:45:15 EDT

sashwa : I'm sorry but I don't know where in Carlsbad they are/were. Hope your dad is okay.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:38:35 EDT

retropolitan : Just got off the phone with a contact in Carlsbad and she said they have been receiving reverse 911 calls to prepare to evacuate since 6:30 am.Your dad probably scrambled than.

Re: Carlsbad

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:36:56 EDT

jhalleau : Any idea where in Carlsbad. My Dad is in Carlsbad, near Olivenhain and El Camino Real.

He's not answering either phone. He better be ok, or I am gonna kick his but!
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:33:51 EDT

markwp2001 :

said by No_Strings :

I'm sure it sounds crazy to you, but to us it makes way more sense than building a house below sea level in a river delta.

Actually I was kidding, though I'm not sure why it "makes way more sense".
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:31:00 EDT

No_Strings : I'm sure it sounds crazy to you, but to us it makes way more sense than building a house below sea level in a river delta.

Re: Carlsbad

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:30:44 EDT

CurtesyFlush : 250,000 people evacuated in San Diego County alone.

Re: Carlsbad

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:27:26 EDT

sashwa : My landlord has family in Carlsbad and they were evacuated today.

Re: Carlsbad

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:15:13 EDT

Tex Longhorn : Just found this. Looks like parts of Carlsbad (East of 5, South of 78) may be evacuated. Still haven't heard anything on the radio or tv regarding Carlsbad.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:14:41 EDT

bjl : Just heard from Ron Roberts that the TJ mayor has offered assistance.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:09:30 EDT

81399672 :

said by CurtesyFlush :

said by 81399672 :

said by CurtesyFlush :

Help from a government that lets wildland fires burn?

time to pay favor once in a while. We been more then helpful to them in the pass

ylen, they let wildland fires burn. Therefore, they don't have any usable assets to send to us to help fight our wildland fires. Get it?

Yes i get that but they still got fire department that has fire trucks, don't they or do they just let houses burn also? that just start accidentaly and are not part of wild fire

Re: Carlsbad

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:09:05 EDT

jhalleau : Thanks! My thoughts are with you folks, I am way up north in Washington, but wish all of you well. Stay safe!
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:07:30 EDT

markwp2001 :

said by CurtesyFlush :

I'm sure a guy from Mississippi gets your references to 2003 and Topanga Canyon. Might as well give him some Thomas coordinates to go along with it.

Hey, it was worldvision, I just assumed it was pointless :hmm:
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:06:21 EDT

CurtesyFlush :

said by 81399672 :

said by CurtesyFlush :

Help from a government that lets wildland fires burn?

time to pay favor once in a while. We been more then helpful to them in the pass

ylen, they let wildland fires burn. Therefore, they don't have any usable assets to send to us to help fight our wildland fires. Get it?
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:04:09 EDT

CurtesyFlush : I'm sure a guy from Mississippi gets your references to 2003 and Topanga Canyon. Might as well give him some Thomas coordinates to go along with it.
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Re: Carlsbad

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:03:56 EDT

Tex Longhorn : Haven't heard anything about Carlsbad. It is a little north and west of the fires.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:02:17 EDT

81399672 :

said by CurtesyFlush :

Help from a government that lets wildland fires burn?

time to pay favor once in a while. We been more then helpful to them in the pass

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:01:05 EDT

81399672 :

:D kinf of hard to stay home, with all this fires around us. This is repeat of 03, except topango is not on fire (it was one point but they were lucky to be able to put it out)

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:00:39 EDT

CurtesyFlush : Help from a government that lets wildland fires burn?

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:00:31 EDT

bjl :

said by 81399672 :

for san diego, can't they ask for mexican government to send some help. Yes i know it's different country but i am sure their are mutual international agreements

I think this has happened in the past for fires that are on or close to the border... but I think it was the other way around... us helping them.

Carlsbad

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:00:15 EDT

jhalleau : I'm not familiar with all the city and hwy names but have relatives in Carlsbad. Is Carlsbad under evac? I had heard that everything north of 56 is but am not sure...

TIA
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:59:35 EDT

coxta : OK here is a valid link:

»earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Natura···&src=map
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:59:07 EDT

markwp2001 : Has anyone from New Orleans made any snarky comments about not building houses in dry deserts? Let me be the first ..... ;)

/Just kidding, y'all stay safe out there, we're praying for you.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:48:55 EDT

81399672 : for san diego, can't they ask for mexican government to send some help. Yes i know it's different country but i am sure their are mutual international agreements
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Quick Info

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:38:09 EDT

nightdesigns : # Firefighters have ordered mandatory evacuations in Foothill Ranch, on La Solita, La Perla, Pandale and Calle Cabrillo. - 2:56 p.m.

# A dozen Orange County fire stations cannot respond to any calls right now because they have sent their equipment to the Santiago Fire lines. The Fire Authority is working with fire commanders in Malibu to get back three fire engines it had earlier sent to those fire lines. - 2:48 p.m.

# Firefighters say the Santiago Fire is threatening the Portola Hills and Foothills Ranch communities of Lake Forest after jumping fire lines this afternoon. The fire is blowing south-southeast. - 2:44 p.m.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:35:41 EDT

nightdesigns :

said by bjl :

said by CurtesyFlush :

Are the L.A. news stations aware of the existence of San Diego County?

They're barely aware of Orange County, you expect them to know about SD? ;)

I've been watching/listening to KNSD online (nbcsandiego.com).

CBS/KCAL had some OC coverage, but it seems to have dwindled.

Stephenson ranch seems to be the one everyone is covering right now.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:32:46 EDT

CurtesyFlush : I'll hang out there then.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:30:53 EDT

americanada : Fox 11 has been all over it several times this afternoon...

I got a kick out of Gigi or whatever her name is saying to a Battalion Chief "Captain can you tell us what's going on here..."

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:28:53 EDT

bjl :

said by CurtesyFlush :

Are the L.A. news stations aware of the existence of San Diego County?

They're barely aware of Orange County, you expect them to know about SD? ;)

I've been watching/listening to KNSD online (nbcsandiego.com).

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:25:43 EDT

CurtesyFlush : Are the L.A. news stations aware of the existence of San Diego County?
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Re: New Fire Start; Magic Mt. Fire

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:20:26 EDT

Tex Longhorn :

said by bjl :

I've been watching what's going on in San Diego... They're calling it the worst fire in California's history. More evacuations in Scripps Ranch. Pretty soon it will be the whole city.

That might be stretching it a bit. So far it is mostly north of the city. There is that fire in Chula Vista that could move toward the city.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:18:14 EDT

coxta : Amazing photos from NASA satellites.

»www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/ima···resm.jpg

»www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/new···l#images

Sorry, those are from the 2003 fires. I'll try and come up with something current.
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Re: New Fire Start; Magic Mt. Fire

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:10:08 EDT

bjl : We're getting close to dime sized ash at UC Irvine.

I've been watching what's going on in San Diego... They're calling it the worst fire in California's history. More evacuations in Scripps Ranch. Pretty soon it will be the whole city.

Also up on my screen is the Lake Arrowhead fire(s). The Grass Valley one is uncomfortably close to my in-laws cabin. They're (KTLA) is showing dozens of homes burning, and hundreds already burned. No firefighters or air drops in sight.

Military offers route through Camp Pendleton

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:09:05 EDT

ghostpainter : 2:53 p.m.
Military personnel will be providing escorts of small groups of
vehicles through Camp Pendleton from Ammunition Road in Fallbrook.

All traffic will be diverted to the front gate to access northbound I-5
at Harbor Drive.

No vehicles will be allowed to access southbound I-5 towards San Diego
County from the base. Citizens must access the base through the
Ammunition Road Gate which is accessible from Mission Road in Fallbrook.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:07:23 EDT

nightdesigns : Fire is moving south through Foothill Ranch. Along Viaggio Ln by were Bake and Lake Forest meet.
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New Fire Start; Fire reported near San Ysidro High School

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:06:13 EDT

ghostpainter : 2:50 p.m.
A San Diego fire dispatcher said there's a fire burning near San Ysidro
High School, near Airway Road and Otay Mesa Road. Crews are on scene.

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The Port of San Diego's police department have been sent to a staging
area at Grossmont College to assist in the wildfire effort. The
officers will help direct traffic and assist with closures and
evacuations.
The port's general services department has also offered its support in
the form of maintenance workers and equipment.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:04:36 EDT

Tex Longhorn : Voluntary evacuations for parts of Chula Vista.

All of Bellalago, all of the Woods at Eastlake, areas of San Miguel Ranch and areas of Rolling Hills Ranch.
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Re: New Fire Start; Magic Mt. Fire

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:56:04 EDT

HappyBunny : Ash is raining down in Long Beach. Cant even open the windows--I am not complaining, just noting that though the fires are not that close, the effects are being felt everywhere, which just shows how severe the conditions are. I worry for all those in harm's way--when do we run out of equipment to save homes and people?

Re: New Fire Start; Magic Mt. Fire

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:49:30 EDT

nightdesigns :

said by ghostpainter :

said by nightdesigns :

said by uid:// :

Calling it the Magic Incident:

Helco diverted from nearby brush advises 5-10 acres with quick rate of spread running with the wind. No helicopters available at this time.

Crap, that must be what I just saw from the top of my hill. I'm south east of that, not that far, maybe 5 miles.

Fire bumping houses on Pebble Ridge Road / old rock came south from
Magic Mtn

LACFD response on Blue 4 admin

Correction, confusion fires. I'm in OC, that's nowhere north of me (there's a ridgeline a by me as well)
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:48:52 EDT

CurtesyFlush : I've never been to the Foothill Ranch development, but if the fuel loading on that slope in the first pic is indicative of
the rest of the perimeter, no problema.
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Re: New Fire Start; Magic Mt. Fire

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:47:57 EDT

ghostpainter :

said by nightdesigns :

said by uid:// :

Calling it the Magic Incident:

Helco diverted from nearby brush advises 5-10 acres with quick rate of spread running with the wind. No helicopters available at this time.

Crap, that must be what I just saw from the top of my hill. I'm south east of that, not that far, maybe 5 miles.

Fire bumping houses on Pebble Ridge Road / old rock came south from
Magic Mtn

LACFD response on Blue 4 admin
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Re: New Fire Start; Magic Mt. Fire

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:45:25 EDT

nightdesigns :

said by ghostpainter :

Calling it the Magic Incident:

Helco diverted from nearby brush advises 5-10 acres with quick rate of spread running with the wind. No helicopters available at this time.

Crap, that must be what I just saw from the top of my hill. I'm south east of that, not that far, maybe 5 miles.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:42:37 EDT

No_Strings :

said by CurtesyFlush :

You're fine.

See, I keep telling people that, and they keep saying I should get help at Charter or somewhere.

Yeah, we're probably not at risk for anything worse than smelly clothes for a couple of days. I'm glad we're not up against that hill, though.

New Fire Start; Magic Mt. Fire

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:41:46 EDT

ghostpainter : Calling it the Magic Incident:

Helco diverted from nearby brush advises 5-10 acres with quick rate of spread running with the wind. No helicopters available at this time.

KLAS
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:39:31 EDT

No_Strings : Yes, that's the one. You're probably more concerned about the one near Ridgeline, though. This one would have to burn all the way through Whiting to bother you.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:35:36 EDT

nightdesigns : No_Strings, what corner were you on when you took those pictures? Portola and Paloma? I'm the next ridge over, so I'm watching intently.
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Scripps Ranch evacuations

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:35:25 EDT

ghostpainter : Monica Munoz of the San Diego Police Department has just announced more
evacuations for the area encompassing everything south of Scripps Poway
Parkway, north of MCAS Miramar, east of Interstate 15 and west of state
Route 67.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:16:32 EDT

CurtesyFlush : You're fine. You wouldn't be if this was the sixties or seventies, because all the homes would have cedar shake shingles, single pane glazing, open eaves, and untrimmed fan palms, aka gigantic tiki torches, in the yards.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:04:05 EDT

No_Strings : Both the wind and fire have shifted. Lots o' smoke now.


Wave to the pilot

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:00:37 EDT

retropolitan : More San Diego updates

1:28 p.m.
The San Diego Humane Society's Animal Rescue Reserve team is currently working with the San Diego County Department of Animal Services to evacuate domestic animals and livestock.

If possible, place your pet in a crate or carrier and bring any necessary supplies including leashes, food, water and medications as supplies at evacuation centers may be limited. More tips can be found online at www.sdhumane.org.

Most Red Cross evacuation centers are accepting pets in carriers.

If you do not have or were unable to pet your pet in a carrier or need pet supplies, bring your pet to one of the following Red Cross evacuation centers:

Qualcomm Stadium ... 9449 Friars Road in Mission Valley

Mira Mesa High School ... 10510 Reagan Road in Mira Mesa

The following sites are full and are no longer accepting animals:

Lakeside Rodeo Grounds ... (approaching capacity)

Del Mar Fairgrounds ... (full)

If you have animals or livestock that you cannot evacuate yourself or that need to be rescued, call (619) 236-4250 and press Š1‰ for emergency services.

If you have a stable or other areas that are safe and can house a number of large animals and livestock that need to be evacuated, please call the San Diego Humane Society at (619) 299-7012. SDHS is also in need of portable livestock panels for temporary corrals. If you have these available for use, please call (619) 299-7012.

Volunteers and supplies are not needed at this time, but the San Diego Humane Society is keeping a list of names for people interested in helping.

If you would like to help, you can donate online at www.sdhumane.org or call (619) 299-7012.

Fallbrook evacuations ordered

1:25 p.m.
Mandatory evacuations have been ordered for the eastern edge of Fallbrook as an uncontrolled fire rips through avocado groves and other farmland in this northern part of the county.
The so-called Rice Fire has burned 300 acres. One building has been destroyed and about 250 are threatened, Cal-Fire officials said.

No cause for the blaze has been determined.

The evacuation order extends from Gird and Live Oak Park roads east to Interstate 15. East Mission Road is the northern boundary of the evacuation area. The San Luis Rey River is the southern boundary.
By Mike Lee
The Witch fire is now aiming at Valley Center, northeast of Escondido, according to the San Diego County Sheriff's Office. An evacuation center has been established at Valley Center High School, 31322 Cole Grade Rd., and a command post for fire and police operations has been is set up at the fire station on Wohlford Road.
Lisa Petrillo

Mandatory Fallbrook evacuation

1:05 p.m.
Evacuations are beginning on the eastern half of Fallbrook; from Insterstate 15 east to Live Oak Park Road, to Gird Road, and East Mission Road to the north and San Luis Rey River to the south.

Mandatory Valley Center evacuation

1:05 p.m.
Evacuations are beginning in a large area of Valley Center, near the Bear Valley area. Valley Center High School is the evacuation center. Residents in Valley Center should play close attention to news reports because of the serious fire threats.

Escondido High shelters 100

1:05 p.m.
Escondido High School was home to more than 100 people early Monday morning, and by mid-morning about 1,000 people were bunked in the gym, camped out in the parking lot and gathering in the music room to get updates from a television.

The boy's locker room was converted to a makeshift shelter for small animals, but many evacuees chose to sit with their dogs, cats, turtles and other critters in the school parking lot.

Peyton Roberts, Red Cross spokeswoman, said so many people showed up at the high school during the early morning they ran out of cots.

For some, the evacuation was an inconvenience. For others, it was a reminder of past danger.

Sylvester Duarte, evacuated from the San pasqual indian resrvation with his mother, brothers, sister and other family members ... ten people in all ... at 7 a.m. They piled into a pickup truck.

"Me, my mom, my two brothers, all lost our house," in the Paradise fire four years ago. They rebuilt with the help of the San Pasqual reservation and the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

"I never thought it would happen again," said Duarte, who was worried about their homes and the dogs they had to leave behind.

"I'm glad my dad's not here to see it," Duarte said. "He passed away last year."

– Michael Burge

Mandatory evacuations in Poway announced

1:00 p.m.
Mandatory evacuations have been ordered in Poway from Rattlesnake Creek to the south, Midland Road to the west, the San Diego Aqueduct to the east, and Lake Poway Road to the north.

Evacuation points are being established at Mount Carmel High School at 9550 Carmel Mountain Road and Poway Community Park at 13094 Civic Center Drive.

All residents who wish to volunteer their time are advised to call Volunteer San Diego at (858) 636-4131 or sign up to volunteer online at www.VolunteerSanDiego.org.

All residents who wish to donate emergency supplies and personal necessities are advised to call Goodwill Industries at (888) 446-6394 to find their local Goodwill drop-off site.

Updates for harris, Witch and McCoy fires

12:58 p.m.
The Harris Fire is 20,000 acres and 5 percent contained. They are currently mapping the fire. Aircraft is periodically grounded due to high winds and visibility. The Southwest Powerline was shut off yesterday and to remain shut for unknown duration of time. San Diego County Sheriff and U. S. Border Patrol are handling immigrant issues including the rescuing, medical treatment, and identification of individuals. Otay Lakes Road is next fire decision making point for impact to San Diego City and Chula Vista. Multiple structures have been destroyed. There are 55 engines, 4 bulldozers, 9 fire crews, 6 helicopters, 5 airtankers (assigned), 6 water tenders (400 firefighters). The cause is still under investigation.

The Witch Fire is 10,000 acres, 0% contained. The fire is still spread westerly. Currently there is 28 engines, 1 dozer, 14 fire crews, 2 water tenders, 18 overhead (369 firefighters). Multiple structures have been destroyed. There have been no injuries to firefighters and one injury to a civilian. Communities threatened: Highland Valley, City of San Diego/Rancho Bernardo, City of Escondido, City of Lakeside, Barona Indian Reservation, City of Poway, Wild Animal Park, Mt. Woodson, Muth Valley. Wind driven fire with spotting up to 1/2 mile. Rapid fire spread burning down hill, down canyon. The fire is burning primarily in unburned fuel between the 2003 Paradise and Cedar Fires.

The McCoy Fire is a U.S. Forest Service fire it is at Boulder Creek and Eagle Peak. It is 400 acres and 5% contain. They are looking at full containment on October 23rd. One structure has been destroyed. Currently they have 5 engines, and 3 overhead which is about 30 firefighters. The cause is under investigation. The Rice Fire is 300 acres 0 percent contained. The location is in Rice Canyon in the northern part of San Diego County. The fire started on October 22 at 4:16 am. 250 structures are threatened and 1 has been destroyed. No mandatory evacuations at this time. The cause is under investigation. Firefighters are attempting to keep the fire in the area of Rice Canyon to east, I-15 to the west, Rainbow Heights to north and Hwy 76 to South. The fire is currently burning into agricultural areas.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:58:48 EDT

retropolitan : I am not worried due to my location but if I were you I would pack up and be prepared to scoot.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:51:10 EDT

Tsume : Okay, 10news.com is showing the san diego evacuation range to be between the 5, 15, 56... and 78. That is almost 2x the area everyone else is reporting due to the fact that it stretches all the way north from Del Dios HWY to the 78.

So what is the true northern border of the evacuation region? Del Dios or the 78? 2-1-1 didn't have a big range to give me, only specific areas. All of my friends near Elfin Forest / Olivenhein Dam have been evacuated, due to the fires near San Elijo Hills. This is under 6 miles from me, I live literally on the border of Vista and San Marcos just north of the 78.

Should I evacuate to my parent's house in Oceanside? I don't smell any smoke here... you can see it in the very near distance though.

I just want to add that I don't know if I can trust my ViaTalk line to give me a reverse 911, so that's why I'm concerned. Who knows, maybe my VT line will surprise me :) We've had numerous electricity voltage dips today, causing our tv to cut out and computer to reboot.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:45:39 EDT

No_Strings : Some more pix from this morning.

We're packed & ready to go, but I don't think it will get this far. A lot of bad things would have to happen.


A nice shot of my mountain bike and new tripod ... oh, and some people looking at a fire.
From my roof

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:56:37 EDT

81399672 : Can i get an update on malibu fire, TIA

CHP Traffic for Devore Fire. 15-215 closed

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:48:41 EDT

ghostpainter : 12:38PM
CT, PLZ CONFIRM YOU RE ENRT FOR A HARD CLOSURE NB 15 AT SIERRA??

12:36PM
FONTANA PD HAS GLEN HELEN ONR TO NB 15 SHUT DOWN PER 153

12:35PM
1039 RC UNITS REF LN 60 AND WILL BE SWITCHING TO BLUE 1// -S8

12:34PM
1039 FONT PD HAVE INFO

12:34PM
HARD CLOSERE IS SB 15 138 FOR NOW

12:33PM
601 BRING IN BREAK TO STOP THE NB AT SIERRA

12:31PM
1115 DEVORE RD - REF POSS EVACS - S3 ENRT

12:31PM
FORESTRY IS REQ G A REP RESP TO DEVORE FIRE STN 2 - 1039 S3

12:29PM
PLS ADVSE FON PD THAT DUE TO THE FIRE CLOSURE// THERE WILL BE ETREMELY HEAVY TRFFC ON SIERRA// EB// WILL POSS NEED TO RESP FOR 1184

12:27PM
PER S3, SPOKE TO FIRE BATTALION CHIEF, THERE IS NO THREAT FOR THAT SCHOOL IN DEVORE

12:16PM
ALL FWY SHUT DOWN - FIRE CAN ACCESS FWY TO GET TO FIRE - PER S3

12:16PM
CT PLS RSP FOR CLOSURE AT SIERRA PER 123-S8

12:10PM
BREAK STARTED SB 15 AT OAK HILL

12:05PM
AMR ON LL REQS TO KNOW IF EMERGENCY VEHS CAN STILL GET THRU

12:05PM
COMM CTR ADVD CLOSURE BOTH DIR 15 AT GLEN HELEN

12:05PM
*** PER S8 - NB 15 IS CLOSED AT GLEN HELEN ***^

12:04PM
CT ASSISTING 152 WITH CLOSURE AT 138 - CARS RUNNING THRU CONE PATTERS - P1 ENRT

11:58AM
216 RUNNING BREAK TO SHUT IT DOWN

11:57AM
DEVORE ONR AT NB 215, GLEN HELEN ONR TO NB 15 - PLZ ADVS SBSO WE NEED THEM THERE

11:55AM
PER S3, AFFIRM ON MOVING CLOSURE TO GLEN HELEN

11:54AM
SBSO HAS 3 UNITS ENRT TO ASST FOR CLOSURE

11:51AM
NEED TO 98 W/ CT AT THE YARD ON 138 FOR CONES

11:51AM
PER COMM CTR - ALL LANES NEED TO BE SHUT DOWN SB AT KENWOOD

11:48AM
NEED CT FOR HARD CLOSURE NB 15 AT SIERRA

11:46AM
FIRE IS NOW UP TO THE FRY, RESP SB JNO KENWOOD , FIRE HAS JUMPED TO THE CD

11:36AM
PER COMM CTR #4LN WILL NEED TO BE SHUT DOWN

11:35AM
MAY NEED TO SHUT DOWN #4 LN - BURNING OVER THE HILL TOWARDS FWY

11:33AM
PER 5-IS5 FIRE IS ABOUT 30 AWAY F/FRWY

11:29AM
1039 S1, ROUTED TO CT

11:28AM
POWER LINE SPARKED AND STARTED FIRE

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:47:25 EDT

retropolitan : recent updates for San Diego county:
All Solana Beach residents told be ready to evacuate

12:19 p.m.
All Solana Beach residents are advised to plan, pack and be prepared to evacuate because current wild fires may spread.

A city emergency operations director, John Traylor, said residents on 12 streets close to Holmwood Canyon , which extends from San Elijo Lagoon south into a neighborhood west of Interstate 5, are advised to voluntarily evacuate. The rest of the city may be asked to do so if the fire danger spreads.The lagoon extends east into Rancho Santa Fe, where a mandatory evacuation has been instituted.

Right now, Solana Beach fire officials are going door to door on those 12 streets to advice residents to leave. Those streets are: 700 Seabright Lane; 200 Patty Hill Drive; 600 Barbara Ave.; 700 Rios Ave.; 700 Granados Ave.; 600 Holmwood Lane; 700 Rawl Place; 600 Canyon Place; 400-600 Canyon Drive; 600 Ridgeline Place; 600 Glencrest Place; and 400-500 Glencrest Drive.

Traylor said the canyon rim is the city's highest fire danger zone because of an abundance of vegetation. "We are trying to be ahead of the curve," he said.

Navy wants only "essential personnel" to report to work

12:17 p.m.
The Navy is asking only essential personnel to report to duty Monday, while personnel at Camp Pendleton are serving a normal duty day, military spokesmen said.

The Navy has advised military families who must evacuate their homes to contact one of the following military housing facilities:

‚Navy Lodge, North Island Naval Air Station or El Centro Naval Air Station: (760) 339-2342

Navy Lodge, San Diego Naval Base at 32nd Street: (619) 234-6142

Navy Lodge, Miramar Marine Corps Air Station: (858) 271-7111

Point Loma Naval Base, Antisubmarine Warfare, bachelors' quarters: (619) 524-0557

Point Loma Naval Base, Submarine Base, bachelors' quarters: (619) 524-5382

Coronado Naval Base, Amphibious Base: (619) 437-3860

Coronado Naval Base, North Island: (619) 545-9551

San Diego Naval Base, bachelor's quarters: (619) 556-8674

By Steve Liewer

Qualcomm refugees swell to 10,000

12:08 p.m.
Fire evacuees continue to take refuge at Qualcomm Stadium and by 12 noon, the number of people taking at the Mission Valley site had swelled to an estimated 10,000.

Just an hour earlier there the number had been in the hundreds. Some people were double evacuees; having fled Ramona last night for Rancho Bernardo, they then found themselves having to flee again. More than 300 volunteers were assisting people and there was a call for cots, blankets, and food to be dropped off at the stadium.

– John Wilkins
Mission Hills High to open evacuation center

12:05 p.m.
Mission Hills High School opened an evacuation center at 4:30 a.m. and had registered about 300 evacuees this morning. Food was provided by the San Marcos Unified School District and some local restaurants. Student volunteers helped serve and care for evacuees.

After news that the Discovery Hills area of San Marcos was no longer in danger, some people left to go home.

– Logan Jenkins
The San Diego County Apartment Association is asking landlords to provide rental housing to families displaced by the wildfires. The association is assembling a list of available units throughout the county, which will be posted on its website at sdcaa.com. The association is asking that landlords abide by the following guidelines: -All units offered should be at a price no greater than that which was offered or advertised to the public during the 30 days immediately prior to the fires. -All security deposits will be no greater than that offered or advertised to the public during the 30 days immediately prior to the fires. -All rental agreements will contain a clause that the rent will not be raised for at least six months.
Clear Channel back up and broadcasting

11:59 a.m.
After a power outage knocked Clear Channel Communications' nine radio stations off the air earlier today, KOGO AM 600 and its sister stations are back and broadcasting.

That means news/talk station KOGO AM 600 will continue with its ongoing fire coverage, providing listeners with news updates and information about road closures, school closures, shelters and other fire-related subjects.

The news outlet will also be feeding reports to all of Clear Channel's local stations, including Star 94.1, KGB 101.5 FM, KLSD AM 1360 and US 95.7.

– Karla Peterson
Race track's 1,800 horse stalls are full

11:57 a.m.
The Del Mar Racetrack's 1,800 horse stalls are full and it's unclear where any more horses will be held.

Del Mar started taking horses in last night, but there had already been animals there due to a jumping competition that had run from Wednesday to Sunday.

As of 9:45 this morning, there were only 100 stalls left and by 11 a.m., people were told they were full.

Officials were bringing horses to the Scream Zone area temporarily and were also considering double-stalling the horses, housing two horses per stall.

Earlier today, horse owners were told they could bring their horses to The Oaks horse facility in Orange County, but that option was called off, reportedly due to winds and possible fire threat in that area.

In additions to horses at Del Mar, the track facility is also housing dogs, litters of puppies and goats.

Feed, hay and water was being provided.

People were being housed separately, being sent over to the fair facilities.

– Peter Rowe
Wild Animal Park evacuated

11:56 a.m.
The San Diego Wild Animal Park was evacuated at 5 a.m Monday, with a selected group of smaller and endangered animals taken to a veterinary hospital on site. By late morning, the park was enveloped in a blanket of ash and smoke, charred pieces of Lord-knows-what falling on the nearly deserted tourist attraction like snowflakes.

Crews were dousing small spot fires and removing trees downed by ferocious wind gusts.

Just 30 employees deemed essential were left behind, including keepers, veterinarians and operations staff, a spokeswoman said. On a typical day this time of year, up to 500 people are at work at the site, the spokeswoman said.

Officials did not venture a guess as to when the park might reopen.

– David Ogul
Leucadia not among evacuation sites

11:52 a.m. The city of Encintas says that contrary to some reports portions of Leucadia are not being evacauted. Reverse 911 calls have gone out to some residents in the Olivenhain area on the east side of Rancho Santa Fe Drive.
Silver Strand open for evacuees with motor homes

11:51 a.m. Fire evacuees with motor homes or other large vehicles can go to the Silver Strand State Beach in Coronado or the Torrey Pines or San Elijo state beaches in the North County, officials said.
Sanders asks residents to donate items to fight

11:50 a.m. San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders is encouraging residents and business owners to donate the following items in support of fire evacuation relief efforts at Qualcomm Stadium: prepared foods, water, tents, cots and blankets.
All donations should be delivered to Gate P at the Qualcomm Stadium.

Rancho Bernardo Baptist Church partially burns

11:48 a.m.
Part of Rancho Bernardo Baptist Church, located at West Bernardo Drive and Duenda Road, has burned, according to lead Pastor Dan Maxton. The sanctuary on the upper campus appears to be hardest hit, while the buildings on the lower campus, including the preschool and youth center, are OK.

Cars pouring into Qualcomm

11:47 a.m.
Cars have been streaming into the Qualcomm parking lot at a steady clip all morning. By 11:00 a.m., several hundred evacuees had registered at sign-up tables.

A concession window was opened, and free slices of pizza and hot dogs were being given out. At a nearby table, volunteers handed out loaves of bread, waters and Starbucks coffee. Across the concourse, a Farmers Insurance table was set up.

Police and fire officials were on hand, as were representatives from the San Diego Blood Bank, which was accepting donations.

Lynn Stead, of the San Diego Blood Bank, said they only had a two-day supply of blood.

A Vons truck pulled into the parking lot and was dropping off food.

Inside the stadium, upstairs on the club level, dozens of people evacuated from the Remington Club, a senior community in Rancho Bernardo, sat in the air-conditioned end-zone room. Many arrived in wheelchairs or using walkers, after they were taken on school buses from the club around 7 a.m.

"I was determined not to leave that place but the general manager was quite persuasive," said Bill Scatchard. He was there with his small dog Bogie, known as "the house dog."

Most people sat in or near their cars in the parking lot, listening to the radio, walking their dogs, wondering what to do next and when they might be able to go home ... if they had a home.

"It doesn't look good," said Sherry Stockton, whose family fled their Matinal Circle house, at the north end of Rancho Bernardo, at about 5 a.m.

Her husband Alan heard a radio report that flames had jumped I-15 and walked outside to check, when the heat and the glow from the fire convinced him it was time to leave. They grabbed their dog, cat, 2 lizards, and a guinea pig and left.

Sitting on the back of their truck at Qualcomm, Sherry Stockton lamented what she hadn't had time to pack. ŠI wished I had grabbed more pictures," she said. ŠWe just didn't have more time."

Their daughter Julie remembered to take her high school and college diplomas. "No matter what happens, I'm not going to back to school."

– John Wilkins
MiraCosta College closes all three campuses

11:43 a.m.
MiraCosta College has shut down all three of its campuses in Oceanside and Encinitas. "It's not an air-quality issue in Oceanside," college spokeswoman Bonnie Hall said, but many staff and faculty are either evacuated from their homes or poised to do so. Also, closed are all off-site classes in community facilities. "We're responding to the plea to keep as much traffic off the roads as possible," Hall said.

A decision will be made at 2 p.m. today whether to resume classes tomorrow.

Parts of Solana Beach, west of I-5, ordered voluntarily evacuated

11:40 a.m.
Solana Beach's Fire Department officials are going door to door on 12 streets to ask residents to voluntarily evacuate. The streets are all west of Interstate 5. Fire officials said they are concerned that fire could move through the San Elijo Lagoon area into coastal neighborhoods.

The streets are: 700 Seabright Lane; 200 Patty Hill Drive; 600 Barbara Ave.; 700 Rios Ave.; 700 Granados Ave.; 600 Holmwood Lane; 700 Rawl Place; 600 Canyon Place; 400-600 Canyon Drive; 600 Ridgeline Place; 600 Glencrest Place; and 400-500 Glencrest Drive.

High school games, practices canceled

11:35 a.m.
High school games and practices in the region have been canceled for Monday and Tuesday.

The athletic events were called off by San Diego Section administrators because of the fire conditions and unhealthy air.

Each school will be adjusting its schedule to accommodate possible makeup dates.

Fire in sight of Pomerado Hospital

11:26 a.m. POWAY –Fire and smoke crested the hills immediately east of Villa Pomerado here at 11 a.m. today, and mechanic and service workers for the hospital complex were manning hoses the defend the facility.
All workers were being told at 11:15 to evacuate Pomerado Hospital and Villa Pomerado at 15600 block of Pomerado Road. Fire appeared to be coming over the hills from the east. Mechanics had gone to fire extinguisher boxes on the roof of the parking structure to pull hoses and fighting equipment. Smoke was thick.

No fire trucks could be seen in the area of the hospital complex.

Meanwhile, a long line of Villa Pomerado patients in wheelchairs were quickly being moved onto school buses lined up to evacuate patients from the nursing facility. More than 120 patients from Pomerado Hospital were evacuated earlier this morning and 75 patients from the adjoining Villa Pomerado were now being taken to other sites.

Each Villa Pomerado patient was holding a large ziplock bag carrying confidential patient information and transfer documents as they were being loaded onto the buses.

By Arthur Salm
Union-Tribune Kids' Newsday postponed

11:16 a.m.
Due to the fires in San Diego County, the 18th annual Union-Tribune Kids' NewsDay has been postponed. The event was scheduled to take place tomorrow, Oct. 23.

The San Diego Union-Tribune, Rady Children's Hospital-San Diego, NBC 7/39, and other event partners thank all volunteers and businesses for their understanding and support. Organizers will contact all involved parties when the event has been rescheduled.

All of Rady Children's non-emergency services and elective appointments are cancelled today.

For more information, please check the Kids' NewsDay Hotline 858-966-4965 and www.knd2007.kintera.org.

Mandatory evacuations have been ordered for Rancho Santa Fe and portions of Lakeside

11:00 a.m.
Mandatory evacuations have been ordered for Rancho Santa Fe, as well as the Olivenhain Dam area. Mandatory evacuations have also been ordered for Lakeside at 13100 Willow Rd.

A report that portions of Leucadia are being evacuated has not been confirmed at this time.

The Del Mar Fairgrounds are open and ready to receive evacuees. Evacuation points have been established at San Marcos High School at 1615 W. San Marcos Blvd. and Poway Civic Center at 13325 Civic Center Drive. Mira Mesa High School is now closed as it has reached capacity.

Emergency officials are reminding residents to limit cell phone calls and use major highways for emergencies only.

Residents should call 2-1-1 for all non-emergency calls related to this fire. Due to large call volume, residents are also urged to find fire information online at www.211SanDiego.org Callers may experience a wait time up to five minutes. Please be patient as 2-1-1 is receiving heavy call volume. Residents may also call the City of San Diego Community Access Phone at 619-570-1070 for additional fire information.

I-15 still closed contrary to earlier reports

10:50 a.m.
The CHP advises that Interstate 15 is still closed in both directions between state Route 78 and state Route 56. CHP Commander Patrick Symonds says there was some earlier confusion as to the status of the freeway because it had been closed as far north as state Route 76. That segment of the highway is now open but southbound drivers are being diverted onto SR-78.

Chargers call it a day after meeting with coach

10:36 a.m.
The Chargers returned to work this morning following a long weekend off, but only for a brief time. After a meeting with coach Norv Turner, practice was canceled and the players were sent home.

The fires burning around the county are nowhere near the team's Murphy Canyon complex, but many players and coaches live in areas that have been evacuated.

"There's nothing we could do today," head coach Norv Turner said. "We have a dozen guys who have evacuated their houses and have stuff they've got to deal with."

Among those who live in the Poway and Rancho Bernardo area are LaDainian Tomlinson, Shawne Merriman, Shaun Phillips and Luis Castillo.

Luis Castillo, who lives in Poway, returned to his home shortly before 10 and resumed packing in the event he had to leave.

"Most of the guys who live around here have been evacuated," Castillo said as he watched and felt the air get smokier seemingly by the minute. "It's not looking good."

The players, who have not practiced since Thursday, are expected to resume meeting and practicing Wednesday. The team already was scheduled to be off tomorrow.

"We'll just see what happens," Turner said. "The air quality is only getting worse."

The Chargers are scheduled to play Houston on Sunday at Qualcomm Stadium -- four years and one day after another game at Qualcomm was moved to Arizona because of devastating fires around San Diego County.

– Jay Posner and Kevin Acee
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Rancho Santa Fe ordered emptied

10:26 a.m.
County spokesman Mike Workman says that all of Rancho Santa Fe in now under mandatory evacaution orders.
Some in Escondido get incorrect notice to evacuate

10:20 a.m.
Erroneous evacuation notices were sent out to some residents in Escondido, according to a fire department official.
Residents around the heart of Escondido may have been contacted in error by a reverse 911 system and told to evacuate to the Del Mar Fairgrounds, said Carol Rea of the Escondid Fire Department.

As of 9 a.m., the latest area added to the evacuation orders is a triangle of land bordered by Bear Valley Parkway, San Pasqual Valley Road, and San Pasqual Road.

Areas that were previously evacuated and which should remain evacuated: Sonata, Sierra Linda, Rancho San Pasqual, Rancho Vista Monte, Lomas Serenas, and Via Loma Vista.

Calvin Christian High School at 2000 North Broadway has been opened as a shelter for those who had to leave their homes. Escondido High School at 1535 North Broadway continues to serve as a primary shelter for evacuees.

Dozens of Rancho Bernardo homes on fire; 250,000 people evacuated

10:16 a.m.
Dozens of home in Rancho Bernardo are burning and there are now reports that some homes in 4S Ranch are also on fire.
San Diego City Fire spokesman says that fire is burning both north and south of Lake Hodges. He also said there is beginning to be some fire activity in Rancho Santa Fe.

County Supervisor Ron Roberts says that 250,000 people have been evacuated from their homes.

City of Chula Vista opens EOC; officials monitoring fire situation

9:30 a.m.
Thick smoke and ash can be seen within the city of Chula Vista, however, no homes or businesses are threatened by the fires to the east. At this time no evacuations are anticipated, but we advise all residents to pay close attention to television, radio and Internet news reports for the latest fire information.

ALL CHULA VISTA PUBLIC SCHOOLS and businesses in the eastern part of the city remain open. No roads have been closed except eastbound lanes along Otay Lakes Road at Wueste Road. Fire and Police personnel are on standby to respond to any emergencies that may occur.

Residents are encouraged to go about their daily lives. If they have health concerns or are in need of social services, call 211. Also, Chula Vista residents who want updates on the current fire situation can call (619) 397-6399 to hear recorded messages.

Scripps Health announces closures during wildfires

10:12 a.m.
Scripps Health is working with the county disaster response system and has implemented disaster incident command centers at its corporate office and all five hospital campuses.
Scripps strongly encourages all patients and staff living in affected areas to follow instructions of the public safety authorities and if asked to evacuate, please do so immediately.

As of 9:30 a.m., Monday, Scripps has closed the following facilities:

* Scripps Clinic Rancho Bernardo
* Scripps Clinic Carmel Valley (it remains open for emergency care only)
* All elective surgeries at all sites have been canceled today except Scripps Mercy Hospital Chula Vista. Elective surgeries are canceled tomorrow at Scripps Encinitas.
* Ambulatory Surgery Centers at Scripps Encinitas and La Jolla are closed today.
* 1-800-SCRIPPS is in disaster mode. There will no class registrations or physician referrals today.
* Scripps Memorial Hospital Encinitas emergency department is on diversion at this time and patients seeking non-urgent care are asked to please seek care at other facilities.
* Scripps has installed additional air scrubbers throughout our system to address the air quality issues caused by the wildfires. At this time, air quality in our hospitals is within safe levels. We are taking every precaution we can, including limiting outdoor access, to protect air quality in our hospitals
* Scripps employees should check with their managers or the labor pool at their facility. Scripps Health corporate staff should check with their managers and may be asked to assist at other locations today. Scripps employees may cross road closures with a valid Scripps badge in order to get to work.

Southeast Carlsbad residents get advisory warning

10:10 a.m.
About 12,500 homes in the southeast quadrant of Carlsbad received advisory reverse 911 calls this morning, said Carlsbad Fire Marshal Jim Weigand.

The calls started at about 3a.m. and were done to give residents - mostly in the La Costa area - an alert nregarding the fire burning in San Marcos. That fire was burning south/southwest but the winds are changing and it now appears to be burning to the west, Weigand said.

"No matter where you live, pay attention, look to the media for updates and be prepared to evacuate," Weigand said.

Chargers cancel practice

9:46 a.m.
The Chargers returned to work this morning following a long weekend off, but only for a brief time. After a meeting with coach Norv Turner, practice was canceled and the players were sent home. The team already was scheduled to be off tomorrow.

The fires burning around the county are nowhere near the team's Murphy Canyon complex, but many players and coaches live in areas that have been evacuated.

The players, who have not practiced since Thursday, are expected to resume meeting and practicing Wednesday. The Chargers are scheduled to play Houston on Sunday at Qualcomm Stadium _ four years and one day after another game at Qualcomm was moved to Arizona because of devastating fires around San Diego County.

San Diego County courts closed

9:26 a.m.
All San Diego County courts will be closed today, contrary to earlier reports. Employees, jurors and those called to jury services should not report to courthouses.

University of Phoenix campuses closed

9:24 a.m.
University of Phoenix campuses in Kearny Mesa and San Marcos are closed today. University of Phoenix centers in downtown San Diego, Chula Vista, El Centro and Palm Desert will remain open until further notice. Students with questions can call (800) 473-4346.

San Diego City Council cancels meeting

9:21 a.m.
The San Diego City Council will not meet today because of the wildfires. Items on today's agenda will be tentatively rescheduled for tomorrow. City staff and interested parties are encouraged to check with the council president's office, (619) 236-6611.

This from the San Diego Animal Support Foundation

9:18 a.m.
The number operated by the county and being reported by most television stations ( 760-735-0448) is not working. The 211 number is also busy.

The Animal Rescue Hotline IS BEING ANSWERED and people with livestock emergencies should call (619) 299-0871

Houses burning in Rancho Bernardo

9:16 a.m.
Houses are burning in Rancho Bernardo just off Pomerado Road.

Three houses were ablaze near the corner of Locksley Street and Fieldstone Drive at 9 a.m. today. Fire crews were battling the flames, but officials sounded anything but optimistic about controlling the fire there.

"We have more houses burning than we have people and engine companies to fight them," said San Diego Fire Captain Lisa Blake. "A lot of people are going to lose their homes today," she said.

Preparing to evacuate animals

9:16 a.m.
Helen Woodward Animal Center was notified by the Rancho Santa Fe Fire Department to be prepared to evacuate the staff and animals within minutes if the need arises. In the meantime the Center remains open although they do not advise anyone to come to the center at this time.

They offer the following evacuation information for people with pets:

Bring:

Medications that your pets need

Vaccination and license information

Pet Beds / Blankets

Pet Toys

Crates / Carriers

Leashes / Collars

Water Bowls

Food dishes and Food

Other "creature comforts" to give your pet some feeling of normalcy

Try to stay calm for yourself and your pets

Remember that the smoke and the smells are already frightening to your pets. Don't add to this by acting irrationally

Do not leave your pets in your cars. The heat can kill them

Microchips can help you find pets that may stray during the emergency

Pomerado Hospital being evacuated; I-15 open in both directions

9:16 a.m.
Interstate 15:
Interstate 15 has been reopened by the California Highway Patrol in both directions. The exception is to the offramps between Lake Hodges and Mercy Road. The offramps only will remain closed.

Pomerado Hospital
Pomerado Hospital is being evacuated, along with nursing homes on Monte Vista Road. Ambulances and school buses are being used for the evacuations.

Call to all SDPD officers to return to duty

9:10 a.m.
All SDPD on and off duty detectives (investigators) will be working in uniform today until further notice. They are to report to the headquarters building.

All SDPD scheduled graveyard shift officers need to report to their commands at 6 p.m. tonight.

Three firefighters in critical condition at UCSD

8:54 a.m.
The UC San Diego Medical Center Regional Burn Center began receiving burn patients from the Harris Fire at approximately 1:30 p.m. on Sunday, October 21.

At this time, UCSD has 13 patients hospitalized at UCSD Medical Center-Hillcrest with burns and inhalation damage, including four firefighters injured in the Portrero fire.

UCSD Thornton Hospital is canceling elective admissions in order to maintain bed capacity in anticipation of community needs. Other services are being evaluated as the situation continues to develop.

Conditions of the patients currently hospitalized at UCSD Medical Center-Hillcrest are:

3 Firefighters are in Critical Condition
1 Firefighter is in Fair Condition
4 Civilians in Critical Condition
4 Civilians in Fair Condition
1 Civilian in Good Condition

Injuries are:Critical:
60% burn injuries
29% burn injuries
28% burn injuries
12% burn injuries
8% burn injuries w/inhalation damage
5% burn injuries w/inhalation damage
5% burn injuries w/inhalation damage

Fair: 17% burn injuries
9% burn injuries
10% burn injuries
6% burn injuries
5% burn w/inhalation damage
Good: 4% burn injuries

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:36:03 EDT

retropolitan : No fire in Chula Vista,yet. They can just see lots and lots of smoke.
They just called for more evacuations however. Rancho Santa Fe and Solana Beach.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:33:59 EDT

TwoFrogs :

said by 81399672 :

said by simplykristi :

Is there a fire near Chula Vista, CA? I know that there is not a fire threatening San Diego proper, correct? It looks like this is a firestorm.

Kristi

If their is not one, i am sure it will be on fire soon. The state is on fire, so basically anyplace in california that can be burning, seem to be :(

That is about as irresponsible a statement as can be made, even considering the source. Certainly the situation is bad, but this State has seen much worse. Even in 2003, "anyplace that could burn" did not, in fact, burn. Especially considering that simplykristi and others reading this thread are out-of-state, avoid hyperbole please.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:27:51 EDT

NESTRAPEZ : build more homes on hills plz lol

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:22:52 EDT

81399672 :

said by simplykristi :

Is there a fire near Chula Vista, CA? I know that there is not a fire threatening San Diego proper, correct? It looks like this is a firestorm.

Kristi

If their is not one, i am sure it will be on fire soon. The state is on fire, so basically anyplace in california that can be burning, seem to be :(

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:19:48 EDT

simplykristi : Looks like a lot of fuel for the fires. :(

Kristi

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:19:06 EDT

simplykristi : Is there a fire near Chula Vista, CA? I know that there is not a fire threatening San Diego proper, correct? It looks like this is a firestorm.

Kristi
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:07:03 EDT

ghostpainter :

said by uid:// :

Is that in Rancho Cucamonga?

Kristi

That is in the Etiwanda area of Cucamonga....Mostly homes and what I am hearing it was a car fire.

Currently winds are NNE at 35 kts with gusts to 45 kts....Humidity level is 2% and Dew Point is -25%....We have 15 major fires, and 8 or 9 smaller fires burning from Santa Barbara to the Mexican Border.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:02:27 EDT

81399672 : any risk of fire near porter ranch? That seems only area currently not burning
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:57:58 EDT

simplykristi : Is that in Rancho Cucamonga?

Kristi

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:09:32 EDT

81399672 :

said by corrosive23 :

6355 RIVERSIDE AV

Another one.

I'm sorry to say this, but random brushfires off the freeways reminds me of 2003 and that asshole arsonist.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:57:50 EDT

nightdesigns :

said by corrosive23 :

I'm sorry to say this, but random brushfires off the freeways reminds me of 2003 and that asshole arsonist.

I'll second that. I know with wind comes fires, but this seems excessive.

I live next to O'Neil park and there's a trail head across my street. I've been double checking out everyone who is hiking today for anyone suspicious.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:45:20 EDT

corrosive23 : 6355 RIVERSIDE AV

Another one.

I'm sorry to say this, but random brushfires off the freeways reminds me of 2003 and that asshole arsonist.

Re: Big Bear Fire Scanner Channel for your Desktop

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:43:45 EDT

corrosive23 : Thats depressing to listen to...

"Yeah, we are loosing structures as we speak...."

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:42:40 EDT

corrosive23 : New one just cropped up...

WB SR210 AT DAY CREEK BLVD in rancho....

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:19:30 EDT

nightdesigns :

said by aztecnology :

said by Maleficent :

There seems to be a whole buttload of fires. I thought there was only 6.

Can you give us the link to this google map that shows the fires please...

»maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&···6953&z=7
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Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:18:43 EDT

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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:16:05 EDT

aztecnology :

said by Maleficent :

There seems to be a whole buttload of fires. I thought there was only 6.

Can you give us the link to this google map that shows the fires please...

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:14:11 EDT

aztecnology : Map of San Diego fires

»www.cbs8.com/misc/fires_oct_07/maps.html

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:13:58 EDT

bjl : Here's a recent visible satellite image from NOAA.
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Latest Updates;

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:50:46 EDT

ghostpainter : This is a pretty sketchy update as more fires break out...According to CDF the fires in Devore are out....The Fires in Ontario are still burning along Etiwanda south into the Chino Dairy Preserve.

Los Angeles County

Ranch Incident: 6 miles N. or Castaic. 30,000 acres; 10% cont., 650 FF assigned.
Buckweed Incident: No update since last night, but fire is active and intense.
Canyon Fire: Malibu. 1200+ acres, 0% cont. Multiple structures lost.

Orange County

Santiago Incident: near Irvine. Arson. 9,000+ acres, 500+ FF assigned. Structures threatened in Irvine.

Riverside County

Roca Incident: Hwy 371 and Roca Vista Rd, near Anza. ~300 FF assigned as of last night. No update yet today.

San Bernardino County

Several new starts in the Devore area. No details.
Kellog Incident: Ontario. No details.
Walker Incidents Ontario. No details.
Grass Valley Fire: Arrowhead area. 75 acres with evacuations.

San Diego County

Witch Incident: 8000+ acres; structures burned; thousand evac'd. Evacs in Rancho Bernardo and Poway. Fire moving west. Huge potential for damage.
Harris Incident: 20,000+ acres and moving west.
Coronado Hills: near CSUSM. 200+ acres.
New starts overnight near: Fallbrook, Descanso Valley, CNF near Eagle Peak.

Santa Barbara County

Sedwick Incident: 710 acres, 75% containment.

Additional information on Lake Arrowhead Fire;

Here's info I have as of 0730hrs this morning.

North Grass Valley Road at Edge Cliff Drive, San Bernardino County.
The fire is approx 75-90 acres & evacuations are taking place at Deer Lodge
& Brentwood area which is the north side of Lake Arrowhead. There is a
shelter set up in Running Springs at Charles Hoffman Elementary School.
Per San Bernardino Sheriff’s Office, Hwy 189 is being closed to residents
only.

Ben J Green
Assistant Chief, Telecommunications
ACS Program
California Governor's Office of Emergency Services

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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:42:10 EDT

Tsume : Here's a pic I took from Vista right off of N Santa Fe.

(my power flickered out twice while trying to post this, some f**ked up s**t is happening, so this message has taken me 10 minutes to type -_-)
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:02:46 EDT

nightdesigns : These are taken from the same location as these: »Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

This is looking north west towards Irvine
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:54:48 EDT

retropolitan : signonsandeigo keeps getting hammered here's the latest update:

Latest evacuation notices
8:32 a.m.
Here are the latest evacuation notices. Over 30,000 Reverse 911 calls have gone out.
Coronado Hills Fire (in San Marcos): Notifications made to 1,000 residents in the communities of Coronado Hills and Discovery Hills in San Marcos and to Attebury Rd. and Deadwood Rd. They were evacuated to Escondido High School.
Mission (Fallbrook) Fire: Notifications made to Rainbow Area residents (I-15 on west, Rainbow Valley on the north, Pala Temecula on the East and Pala Rd. on the south) instructing residents to evacuate to the west.
Witch Fire: Evactuation notices have gone out to Elfin Forest Recreational Reserve; Del Dios; Lake Hodges; in Poway at Espola Rd., Old Coach Rd., Heritage Rd. and Stage Coach Rd. Reverse 911 notification has been made for Poway in the area bordered by Pomerado on the west, Twin Peaks on the south and Espola on the north and east. Poway has established an evacuation center at Poway Civic Center.
Harris Fire: Notifications have been made to residents of Mother Grundy Truck Trail and Deer Horn Valley. They were evacuated to Steele Canyon High School. Future evacuatees will be directed to Santana High School in Santee. Mandatory evacuation in progress for Coyote Holler. They were evacuated East to Campo. Mandatory evactuation notices sent for areas north of Lake Wohlford.
Residents should call 2-1-1 for all non-emergency calls related to this fire. Due to large call volume, residents are also urged to find fire information online at www.211SanDiego.org Residents may also call the City of San Diego Community Access Phone at 619-570-1070 for additional fire information.

New advisory evacuations in Poway area
8:19 a.m.
Advisory evacuations have been ordered for Poway in the area bordered by Pomerado Rd. on the west, Espola Rd., on the north and east, and Twin Peaks on the south.
Evacuation points have been established at San Marcos High School at 1615 W. San Marcos Blvd. and Poway Civic Center at 13325 Civic Center Drive. San Marcos Mission Hills High School is full. Poway High School is closed to evacuees.
The San Marcos Office of the Treasurer Tax Collector and Assessor Recorder is closed today.
Additional School Closures: California College is closed for today.
Residents should call 2-1-1 for all non-emergency calls related to this fire. Due to large call volume, residents are also urged to find fire information online at www.211SanDiego.org Residents may also call the City of San Diego Community Access Phone at 619-570-1070 for additional fire information.

Six Escondido houses burn
7:35 a.m.
Six houses in southern Escondido have been lost to the Witch Creek Fire and two others have been damaged. Homes continue to be at risk in that area, Escondido fire officials say.

Avoid non-essential travel, officials urge
7:31 a.m.
Emergency officials are urging people to avoid using major highways within the county today. The roadways need to remain clear for evacuations.
Officials also ask that people keep their cell phone use to a minimum to keep lines open for emergency officials to communicate.
County spokeswoman Lesley Kirk says if you do not need to be on the road then please do not drive. She also advises people to check with their employers before they go to work today to make sure they still need to come in.

Fire total: 18,000 acres burning
7:25 a.m.
The San Diego County Office of Emergency Services reports there are some 18,000 acres of San Diego County burning right now. That includes the areas burning in the city of San Diego, officials said.
The fires are zero percent contained.

San Diego Superior Court closed
7:20 a.m.
Superior Court is closed. All court employees are advised not to report to work today.

Boundaries on western mandatory evacuation area
7:09 a.m.
According to San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders: Everyone north of state Route 56, south of Del Dios Highway, west of Interstate 15 and east of Interstate 5 should evacuate. Qualcomm Stadium in Mission Valley is opening as an evacuation center.

American Red Cross shelter locations
7:02 a.m.
Escondido High School, 1535 North Broadway
Santana High School, 9915 Magnolia Avenue, Santee
Mira Mesa High School, 10510 Reagan Road (off Mira Mesa Boulevard).
Steele Canyon High School, 12440 Campo Road, Spring Valley
Campo Community Center, 976 Sheridan Road, Campo
Poway High School shelter is CLOSED.

23,000 without power
6:55 a.m.
Power outages totaling more than 23,000 customers have occurred throughout communities in North and East County.
Affected areas include Fallbrook, Escondido, San Marcos, Rancho Bernardo, Rancho Penasquitos, Julian, Ramona, Santa Ysabel, Rainbow, Poway, Encinitas, Cardiff By the Sea, Olivenhain, Del Mar, Valley Center, Jamul, Dulzera, Potrero and Alpine, according to SDG&E.
For a map of outages and expected restoration times on the SDG&E Web site, go to »outages.sdge.com/ publicOu···utageMap.

San Diego police officers ordered on duty
6:50 a.m.
All scheduled graveyard San Diego police officers have been ordered to report to their commands at 6 p.m. Monday. All on-duty and off-duty investigators are ordered to report to Room 213 at headquarters – in uniform, with vests.

Limited court services available Monday
6:47 a.m.
The courts will be open for a limited time Monday morning for those who have business at the court such as filing paperwork. There will be no cases heard, officials said. All court employees are expected to report to work.

Huge swath of evacuations west to I-5
6:24 a.m.
Mandatory evacuations have been ordered for a huge swath totaling 100 square miles and ranging from Interstate 5 on the west across Interstate 15 to the east, and north from state Route 56 to Lake Hodges, said San Diego fire department spokesman Maurice Luque.
Flames penetrated Rancho Bernardo from the northeast beginning around 3:30 a.m., and have jumped Interstate 15 at Carmel Valley Road, Luque said.
An undetermined number of homes are burning and there are reports of people trapped in their homes and cars, Luque said.
The flames are threatening to burn into Rancho Santa Fe, Luque said.
Residents can seek shelter at any of the designated high schools or Qualcomm Stadium, Luque said.
A force of 240 firefighters with 60 engines are trying to stop the blaze from advancing farther through the area. Ambulances are in the area to help the elderly and ill who cannot evacuate themselves, he said.

Two firefighters hurt; homes lost; Witch Fire now 10,000 acres
6:13 a.m.
One volunteer firefighter from the Inter Mountain Fire District and a firefighter with the Julian Fire Department were hurt and taken to hospitals.
Both are considered to be in good condition. Fire officials are trying to determine how they got hurt.
Homes have been lost in Escondido in the Sierra Linda and Sonata areas. The number of structures lost is not known at this time.
Firefighters estimate the Witch Fire has spread to 10,000 acres.

Fire burning in Rainbow
6:02 a.m.
A fire is burning in Rainbow, Sheriff's Department officials say.
Residents in the 1500 block of Rainbow Heights Drive and and Rainbow Crest Road are being asked to evacuate, said Sheriff's Lt. Mike McClain. Reverse 911 calls are being made to the area.
The fire was first reported at 4:15 a.m. and started out small but spread rapidly, McClain said.

Interstate 15 closed
5:59 a.m.
Interstate 15 is closed in both directions from state Route 78 to Ted Williams Parkway/state Route 56, the California Highway Patrol says.

Del Dios evacuation
5:45 a.m.
Mandatory evacuations have been called for in the Del Dios area, the San Diego Sheriff's Department reports.

Rancho Santa Fe, 4S Ranch evacuations
5:41 a.m.
Rancho Santa Fe and northern 4S Ranch areas have been issued mandatory evacuations.
There are reports of injuries related to the Witch Fire but information on those hurt was not immediately available.
Fire officials are urging residents to evacuate immediately if authorities say it's time to leave.

Guejito Fire, Witch Creek Fire merge
5:25 a.m.
The previous Guejito Fire, near the Wild Animal Park, is now considered part of the Witch Creek Fire, and multiple emergency agencies have created a unified command.
Escondido Fire Chief Vic Reed says it is critical that everyone in the Via Loma Vista area evacuate.
"Absolutely, positively, pay attention to the evacuation orders," Reed said.

Coronado Hills (San Marcos) fire update
5:21 a.m. A brush fire in the community of Coronado Hills in the southwest part of the city started around 1:50 a.m. and is burning south toward San Elijo Hills, a master-planned community, said Jenny Peterson, the city's spokeswoman. The cause is unknown.
At around 3:30 a.m. a mandatory evacuation was issued in Coronado Hills, San Elijo Hills and Discovery Hills. Residents have been evacuated to Mission Hills High School in San Marcos, she said.
Peterson said the fire is now about 250 acres and is 5 percent contained. She said there were 80 fire personnel from local fire departments and 25 engines are on scene.
No structures have been lost and no injuries have been reported, Peterson said.
San Marcos Unified School District and California State University San Marcos have canceled classes for Monday, Peterson said.

Poway declares local emergency
5:10 a.m.
The city of Poway has declared a local emergency and activated the local Emergency Operations Center. The Witch Fire has expanded to the northeast section of the city.
All residents east of Espola Road From Lake Poway Road through Valle Verde Road have been asked to evacuate immediately. This includes the High Valley, Bridlewood Country Estates, Stoneridge, Heritage, Old Coach and Old Winery neighborhoods. Residents are being notified by telephone through the reverse 911 system.
The city has posted emergency information online at »poway.org. An emergency shelter has been established at the Poway Community Center, at 13094 Civic Center Drive.
Large animals can be taken to the Poway Valley Riders Association Arena, also known as the Poway Rodeo Grounds, at the corner of Tierra Bonita Road and Poway Valley Road.
All schools in the Poway Unified School District will be closed Monday. We are encouraging all residents not being asked to evacuate to stay inside with their air conditioner running. All Disaster Service workers are asked to report as directed.

Guejito Fire jumps Santa Ysabel Creek
4:39 a.m. The fire that started near the Wild Animal Park, now known as the Guejito Fire, has jumped Santa Ysabel Creek and is approaching the Sierra Linda neighborhood. It also jumped state Route 78 and is approaching Rancho San Pasqual.
Residents in those area should evacuate immediately.
It is expected the fire will jump Interstate 15, so evacuation also has begun for the Lomas Serenas and Via Loma Vista neighborhoods west of I-15 and Del Dios in unincorporated Escondido.
Residents are advised to go to the evacuation center at Escondido High School at 1535 N. Broadway.
Officials said high schools in Escondido will be closed Monday, including Escondido High School, Orange Glen High School, San Pasqual High School, and Valley High School.

Interstate 15 closed
4:24 a.m.
Authorities are closing Interstate 15 from Rancho Bernardo Road to Via Rancho Parkway.
Firefighters plan to try to stop the fire from crossing the interstate. The freeway will remain closed until further notice.

Fire update from county emergency office
4:21 a.m.
The following information has just been sent out by the San Diego County Office of Emergency Service.
San Pasqual Valley Fire: The fire in the San Pasqual Valley area is coming close to the Wild Animal Park. According to the Sheriff's Department, a transformer exploded near the area of Hwy 78 and Bandy Canyon Road, 4 miles east of Wild Animal Park. At this time, the acreage has not been confirmed and there is no word on animals being evacuated at this time.
Coronado Hills/San Marcos: The San Marcos Fire Department says reverse 911 calls were sent out to 4,062 residents in the community of Discovery Hills and the Red Cross has set up an evacuation center at Escondido High School. There are reports of structures burning and more than 200 acres have burned, threatening structures in the Coronado Hills area near California State University at San Marcos.
Mission Fire/Fallbrook: A new fire is being reported at East Mission Rd. and Davis Dr. No further details are available at this time.
Descanso Fire: According to Cal Fire a fire has broken out in the Descanso Valley area near Interstate 8. It has burned 200 acres. No further details are available at this time.
Witch Fire: The Witch Fire continues to burn significantly toward the west in the direction of the San Pasqual Valley Fire and officials are concerned that the fires will merge.
Harris Fire: The Harris Fire also continues to burn to the west.
McCoy Fire: There are 60 acres burning in a remote area in the Cleveland National Forest near Eagle Peak.

Winds in 60 mph range, to continue
4:10 a.m.
Greg Martin, a forecaster with the National Weather Service, says Potrero has had the strongest wind gusts, reaching up to 69 mph. Over the last four hours, the gusts moved up into the 60 mph range. The prediction is that the strong winds will continue through the morning, peaking at 70 to 75 mph in the mountain areas. The winds are expected to decrease in the afternoon.

New evacuations ordered
4:06 a.m.
Fire officials say the north head of the Witch Fire is moving near Grangeland and the other head of the fire is moving south toward Eagle Peak. Firefighters are predicting this could follow the same route of the Cedar Fire which was in the San Diego River watershed area and could end up spreading near Miramar.
San Diego officials have ordered the evacuation of northeast Rancho Bernardo. The north end of Poway that overlooks Lake Hodges is also under mandatory evacuation. The Southerstone area near Barona, El Monte Valley to Wildcat Canyon Road in the lakeside area are all being evacuated as well as the area near the El Capitan Reservoir.
Mount Woodson and Archie Moore areas are also under evacuation orders, as is the Highland Valley area near Ramona.
Additional firefighters are beginning to arrive.

20,000 customers without power
4:04 a.m.
SDG&E reports dozens of power outages throughout the county, affecting some 20,000 customers.
In Fallbrook and northeast Fallbrook, 1,724 customers were without power, In Ramona 1,160. In Del Mar, Torrey Pines and at Fairbanks Ranch Country Club there were 1,790 without power.
There were also several smaller outages all over the county, in Poway, Green Valley, East Ramona, La Jolla Indian Reservation, Mesa Grande, Santa Ysabel, Viejas, East Descanso, Boulder Creek, Dulzura, Campo, Potrero, Guatay, Pine Valley, Mount Laguna, Live Oak Springs, Jacumba and Boulevard. Numbers ranged from a few dozen to 1,000 customers without power.
Wind and wildfires were blamed for the outages.

Fire in Fallbrook; Witch Fire reaches S.D. city limits
3:03 a.m.
A new fire is being reported at East Mission Road and Davis Drive in Fallbrook, fire officials said. The blaze was just reported and there is no information on the fire at this time, fire officials said.
Meanwhile, authorities said the Witch Fire has reached the San Diego city limits.

Southeast Escondido residents told to evacuate
2:55 a.m.
An estimated 2,000 residents of Southeast Escondido have been told evacuate.
The following communities were notified by the reverse 911 system: Rancho Vista Monte, Rancho San Pasqual, Sierra Linda and Sonata.
Evacuees can go to Escondido High School at 1531 N. Broadway.

San Marcos fire
2:54 a.m. The San Marcos fire was first reported at 1:58 a.m. at 100 Washingtonian Drive.
The Sheriff's Department will being doing reverse 911 calls for the area, said Sheriff's Lt. Hope Andrews. An evacuation center is set up at Escondido High School at 1531 N. Broadway in Escondido.
The fire has burned some 100 acres. Andrews said that a sheriff's deputy reported the hillside at Washingtonia to be fully engulfed.

Fifth fire burning, threatens homes near San Marcos
2:34 a.m.
A fifth fire has started and is burning near Cal State San Marcos. Firefighters are just getting to the fire, which was reported by several people just before 1:50 a.m. The size of the fire is not known, a fire dispatcher said. There are no orders of evacuations at this time, but residents in the area are leaving and dispatchers are getting mutliple calls from people reporting the fire.
Authorities have also issued mandatory evacuations for the San Pasqual Valley area, Guejito, Wild Animal Park area and Bandy Canyon areas.
Fire officials said a transformer exploded near state Route 78 and Bandy Canyon Road, four miles east of the Wild Animal Park. The acreage of this fire is not yet confirmed. A spokeswoman with the Wild Animal Park said animals that have been trained to enter and exit crates that were in the perimeter of the park have been moved to the park's hospital for their protection.
Firefighters said the winds have picked up and were expected to stay strong and gusting at 65 mph until the morning.

Firefighters battling new fires
2:03 a.m.
A third fire that broke out in Descanso Valley is threatening the Viejas Reservation and could be there by daybreak, officials said. Other areas potentially affected were Eagle and Boulder Creek. The fire has burned about 200 acres.
Meanwhile, firefighters were battling a fourth fire that started in Guajito, about 1½ miles east of the Wild Animal Park in the San Pasqual Valley. A firefighter spotted that blaze. There was no acreage information on that fire.

Fire erupts in Descanso Valley
1:40 a.m.
A fire broke out in the Descanso Valley area near Interstate 8 and is burning 200 acres. Firefighters are just starting to get to that blaze, said Michael Workman, a spokesman for the San Diego County Office of Emergency Services.
The exact time the fire broke out is not known. Firefighters don't know which direction the fire is burning because they are just getting there, Workman said.
There are no evacuation orders in place. The area is not densely populated, he said.

Animals rescued from Witch Fire
12:56 a.m.
Emergency Animal Rescue set up an evacuation area at a ranch near Highland Valley Road and state Route 67 in Ramona.
They have more than 100 horses there plus cats, dogs, cows and other livestock.
They've been responding to ranches and calls for evacuations from owners. As late as 8 p.m. Volunteers rescued a horse from a ranch where the house across the street was already in flames on Ramona Trails Road.
The horse, named Big Mike, was loose in the corral. He was panicked, running in circles.
Doug Lake, the executive director of the rescue organization, calmed Big Mike down and got him into the horse trailer as flames surrounded the land near the corral.
Rescue volunteers plan to keep the animals at the ranch until their owners can claim them.

No classes held in some Escondido schools
12:42 a.m.
Bear Valley Middle School and L.R. Green Elementary School in Escondido are closed Monday.

Barona Casino defies evacuation order
12:41 a.m.
Sheriff's Lt. Phil Brust said Barona Casino was told to evacuate as part of a mandatory evacuation order given earlier Sunday night for Wildcat Canyon Road.
"They said they would 'shelter in place' and did not evacuate," Brust said.
The casino was not under lockdown and patrons could leave if they chose, he said.

Road closure, restrictions update
12:40 a.m.
The California Highway Patrol reports that state Route 94 is closed between Otay Lakes Road and Forest Gate Road until further notice.
San Diego police are escorting traffic westbound on state Route 78 out of Ramona. The CHP is escorting all four lanes of state Route 67 southbound from Ramona to Poway Road.

Witch Fire No. 1 priority for state
12:17 a.m.
The Witch Fire has been designated the No. 1 priority in the state because the quick-moving blaze has split into two heads, San Diego Fire Chief Tracy Jarman told TV reporters. Wind gusts up to 70 mph are carrying the blaze toward the San Pasqual Valley and down state Route 52 south of Poway.

Sanders, Jarman describe San Pasqual Valley threat
12:12 a.m.
As many as 250 homes in the San Diego region of the San Pasqual Valley were under mandatory evacuation.
Fire officials said in an 11 p.m. news conference that they fear the fire will spread into the region by 2 a.m.
"This is a very quickly evolving situation," said Mayor Jerry Sanders.
Fire Chief Tracy Jarman said the Witch fire has two heads. One head is moving south toward Poway. It is moving slower than the northern head which is spreading toward San Pasqual Valley outside Escondido.
Brian Maienschein said the valley has green brush and officials are hoping that it will help slow the progression of the fire.
Jarman said winds are very strong. And "it's causing the fire to move quicker than we anticipated."
Officials have requested 100 strike teams from outside the area to help battle the flames.
Residents were urged to use caution, listen to police officers, obey their orders and not panic.
At least 350 evacuees were registered at Steele Canyon High School in Jamul. Evacuees were being calmed by volunteers who gave them chocolate cakes, water and Tylenol.
In one corner, several evacuees gathered around a television to get information on the fire and their homes. Dozens others slept on cots in the school's gymnasium.
San Diego residents who want information on evacuation centers can call (619) 570-1070.

Oct. 21, 2007
County releases perimeter map for Potrero fire
11:41 p.m.
The county has released a PDF perimeter map of the Harris Fire, which includes Potrero. The map can be accessed here.

County releases perimeter map for Ramona fire
11:41 p.m.
The county has released a PDF perimeter map of the Witch fire, which includes Ramona. The map can be accessed here.

County Ramona fire update
11:37 p.m.
Four North County Transit buses are en route to Ramona to assist evacuees in need of transportation assistance. The Sheriff's Department is coordinating the effort.
Five county probation vehicles have been dispatched to assist clients at the Poway High School shelter as they are moved to Mira Mesa High School at 10510 Reagan Road in San Diego.

Governor declares state of emergency
11:25 p.m.
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger declared a state of emergency in the counties of San Diego, Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside, San Bernardino, Santa Barbara and Ventura due to the 11 major wildfires burning throughout Southern California.
More than 30,000 acres have burned and more areas are threatened, officials in the governor's office said.
The governor's proclamation allows the state Office of Emergency Services to send personnel, equipment and facilities to provide local government help under the California Disaster Assistance Act.

American Red Cross shelter locations
11:07 p.m.
The American Red Cross has changed the location of its shelter for residents evacuated from the Witch Creek/Highway 78 wildfire now affecting Ramona and Poway.
THE NEW LOCATION IS Mira Mesa High School, 10510 Reagan Road (off Mira Mesa Boulevard). The Poway High School shelter is CLOSED. An additional shelter has also been opened at Escondido High School, 1535 North Broadway (Thomas Brothers Map Page 1109, H-6)
For residents in East County affected by the Harris Fire, shelters remain at Steele Canyon High School, 12440 Campo Road, Spring Valley (Thomas Brothers Map Page 1272, B-7); and the Campo Community Center, 976 Sheridan Road, Campo.
Approximately 200 shelter residents were served dinner at Steele Canyon, and people continue to arrive. The Campo Center reports "a handful" of residents at this time.
These facilities will remain open as long as there is a need. Residents will be provided a safe place to stay, drinks and meals, and basic health services. The Red Cross will remain on site and provide lodging there tonight. If additional shelters are requested by emergency responders, the Red Cross is prepared to open them in safe locations as necessary.
Residents with large animals are instructed to take them to the Lakeside Rodeo Grounds, located at Highway 67 and Mapleview Street, OR the San Diego County Fairgrounds in Del Mar.
Residents are urged to place their household pets in carriers or crates plus supplies such as food and leashes if they are brought to Red Cross shelters. Bring all necessary daily medications, supplies for your children, and any other critically needed items for the next 24 to 72 hours with you to the shelter.
The Red Cross advises all residents to heed any evacuation orders immediately.
For additional information about resources, please call 211 San Diego. Dial 211, or 1-858-300-1211.

Harris fire update
11:01 p.m.
A mandatory evacuation was issued along state Route 94 for residents of the following communities: Barrett Junction, Engineer Springs, Dulzura and all areas in between.
The evacuation center is Steele Canyon High School 12440 Campo Road in Jamul.
All San Diego County courts will be closed Monday.
Sheriff's deputies normally assigned to the courts are assigned to the fire.
The following schools are closed Monday:
Jamul-Dulzura Union, Ramona and Poway Unified School Districts.
Dehesa Charter School in Escondido.
Palomar Mountain Elementary School in Valley Center-Pauma Unified School District.

Witch fire evacuation center moved
11:00 p.m.
More than 100 people and three dozen small animals were told to leave Poway High School, which served as an evacuation center all day, at about 10:40 p.m. The new evacuation center is Mira Mesa High School.

San Diego schools open Monday
10:58 p.m.
All San Diego Unified School District schools will be open except for Camp Palomar on Palomar Mountain on Monday.
School principals throughout the district are being asked to limit the amount of student's physical activity because of smoke from the fires, officials said.
Camp Palomar, the outdoor school visited by sixth graders in the district, won't be open because roads leading to the camp are closed because of the fire, said Jack Brandais, a district spokesman.
Classes will be held during the normal school hours.
Parents are also being urged to make sure the school has current contact information.

Steele Canyon High School classes canceled
10:58 p.m.
Steele Canyon High School classes are cancelled on Monday. The staff at the school has been asked to assist with evacuees if they have not been personally affected by the Harris fire, officials said.

Fire possibly headed toward San Pasqual Valley
10:58 p.m.
Mayor Jerry Sanders will be holding a news conference at 11 p.m. at Steele Canyon High School to discuss the possibility of the fire entering San Pasqual Valley during the early morning hours.
Fire Chief Tracy Jarman and Assistant Police Chief Bill Maheu will also be there.

Wildcat Canyon Road under mandatory evacuation
10:38 p.m.
SAN DIEGO – Wildcat Canyon Road from San Vicente Road to Willow Road is under mandatory evacuation. Evacuees are being sent to Poway High School at 15500 Espola Road or Escondido High School at 1535 North Broadway or a temporary shelter at Santana High School, 9915 North Magnolia.
All schools in the Ramona and Poway Unified School Districts will be closed Monday.
Residents should call 211 for all non-emergency calls related to the Witch fire.

Mandatory evacuation for Barrett Junction
10:36 p.m.
The Sheriff's Department has issued mandatory evacuations along Highway 94 for residents in Barrett Junction, Engineer Springs, Dulzura and all areas in between due to the Harris Fire, according to the San Diego County Office of Emergency Services.

The evacuation center is Steele Canyon High School, 12440 Campo Road in Spring Valley.

Advisory evacuation north of Route 78
10:37 p.m.
SAN DIEGO – An advisory evacuation was issued for residents north of state Route 78 south of the Cleveland National Forest, just east of Black Canyon Road and Magnolia just west of Pine. Evacuees can go to Poway High School.

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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:28:37 EDT

sashwa : Sounds like it's gotten worse down there over night. :(

I just heard Oakland is sending some of their men down there to help.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:22:15 EDT

bjl : Fire near Lake Arrowhead:

»www.inciweb.org/incident/1003/
Date of Origin 10/22/2007 at 0508 hrs.
Location Deer Lodge Park
Size 100 acres

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:07:26 EDT

aztecnology : Any updates on the fallbrook/rainbow fire, which is closest to me. The SD news websites are slow to load, and I don't get any of the teevee stations...

San Diego fires

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:06:29 EDT

bjl : Anyone keeping track of what's going on down in San Diego? Huge evacuation of the area west of I-15 and north of highway 56. Houses in Rancho Bernardo burning. All of Ramona evacuated. They're saying it could be worse than the 2003 Cedar fire. :(

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:49:21 EDT

nightdesigns : NBC Just reported that the Santiago/Irvine Fire was possibly started by arson.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:08:31 EDT

nightdesigns :

said by CurtesyFlush :

Then I'll bet you remember them. Where'd they go?

They essentially ran out of money. Their advertising department was useless.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 09:35:05 EDT

aztecnology : Just talked to my dad, he's LAFD 85's, he was staging in the hollywood hills all night, just got relieved this morning. He'll be heading back out tomorrow...

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 05:24:59 EDT

corrosive23 : Oh holy hell.....

2:22AM MOBIL GAS STATION NOW ON FIRE AND FIRE IS NEXT TO IN N OUT
2:21AM GOT VEHS OO WAY
2:20AM 1039 T/ONT PRE COMM
2:19AM MOBIL GAS STATION MIGHT CATCH ON FIRE
2:19AM UNITS CANT GET BACK TO VEHS
2:19AM ROLL FIRE TO MOBIL STATION

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 05:22:44 EDT

corrosive23 : yeah, 40th and waterman, along del rosa, people are still rebuilding.

And to expand, CHP thinks the Mobil @ G St. and Vineyard might go up! HOLY CRAP!

Edited it to the correct cross street.

And adding google maps link to those who are unfamiliar with area....

lots of houses near this...

»maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&g···c=A&om=1

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 04:42:30 EDT

The Folsom :

said by HappyBunny :

said by The Folsom :

said by HappyBunny :

The smell is terrible here in Long Beach. I dont know if I am smelling the Irvine fire or he Malibu one--maybe both. Be careful everyone!

I've been to Long Beach many times... It smelled terrible... There was no fire during those times.

It smelled like bilge...

Are you always this rude? Please dont darken our city with your unwanted presence again.

I promise... I'll never darken your ~~city~~ forum with my unwanted ~~rudeness~~ honesty ever again...

Be original... Ignore me...
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 04:12:29 EDT

HappyBunny :

said by The Folsom :

said by HappyBunny :

The smell is terrible here in Long Beach. I dont know if I am smelling the Irvine fire or he Malibu one--maybe both. Be careful everyone!

I've been to Long Beach many times... It smelled terrible... There was no fire during those times.

It smelled like bilge...

Are you always this rude? Please dont darken our city with your unwanted presence again.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 02:47:35 EDT

simplykristi : I know but still it saddens me to see those wildfires out there every year,. :(

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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 02:31:35 EDT

The Folsom :

said by HappyBunny :

The smell is terrible here in Long Beach. I dont know if I am smelling the Irvine fire or he Malibu one--maybe both. Be careful everyone!

I've been to Long Beach many times... It smelled terrible... There was no fire during those times.

It smelled like bilge...
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 02:05:23 EDT

81399672 :

said by HappyBunny :

The smell is terrible here in Long Beach. I dont know if I am smelling the Irvine fire or he Malibu one--maybe both. Be careful everyone!

can't be malibu. I am much closer to malibu then you're and air is fine here

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 02:01:43 EDT

HappyBunny : The smell is terrible here in Long Beach. I dont know if I am smelling the Irvine fire or he Malibu one--maybe both. Be careful everyone!

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:55:03 EDT

Maleficent :

said by CurtesyFlush :

Anyone here remember OCN? (The Orange County News Channel)

No. But I remember Wally George on KDOC 56.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:48:21 EDT

CurtesyFlush : Then I'll bet you remember them. Where'd they go?

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:45:55 EDT

nightdesigns :

said by CurtesyFlush :

Anyone here remember OCN? (The Orange County News Channel)

I worked for 'em.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:41:31 EDT

CurtesyFlush : Anyone here remember OCN? (The Orange County News Channel)

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:36:32 EDT

nightdesigns :

said by No_Strings :

said by nightdesigns :

Watching kcal?

Yes, and I hate it.

Same gal reported evacuations in Portola Hills. Wrong. Portola Springs. Very different and at least 10 miles off.

She is yet to get the City of Irvine Emergency Information channel right, it's 1640AM for anyone who cares. I've heard her say 3 different things, all wrong.

IDIOTS.

This yet again shows why OC needs their own news channel. The KDOC attempt has been a joke at best.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:31:01 EDT

Bloominite :

said by CurtesyFlush :

I liked their news back when Gene Autry owned the station and
Stan Chambers was reporting from the field.

Some of the best disaster reporting I can remember was Jennifer York covering the Northridge quake from CH 5's helicopter.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:29:57 EDT

cvrefugee :

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=43rgB93AvSM

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:26:38 EDT

Bloominite :

said by simplykristi :

Southern California is burning. :(

It happens every year with more burning some years and less in other years. While there are a lot of fires burning right now, the total acreage and number of homes lost as I write this is much less than we've seen in autumns past.

Of course that could turn around and really blow up at the drop of a hat.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:23:20 EDT

No_Strings :

said by CurtesyFlush :

I liked their news back when Gene Autry owned the station and
Stan Chambers was reporting from the field.

Yeah, I'm just being grumpy & unreasonable. (surprised?)

In my mind, if someone's getting paid (handsomely) to communicate, they'd damned well better do it properly. I expect correct grammar, diction and factual accuracy. Unfortunately, raw footage of flames and junior reporters ad-libbing hyperbole seems to be more in demand.

Give them pre-chewed news copy and they can read it just fine. Take away the script and the studio and the façade falls away in a New York minute.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:09:57 EDT

simplykristi : Southern California is burning. :(

Kristi

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:08:01 EDT

CurtesyFlush : I liked their news back when Gene Autry owned the station and
Stan Chambers was reporting from the field.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:05:50 EDT

CurtesyFlush :

said by corrosive23 :

I hope not, most (75%) of my neighborhood burned to the ground.

Del Rosa?
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:01:00 EDT

corrosive23 : meh, she's going to work in a few hours anyways. She works midnight to 10 am.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:00:28 EDT

No_Strings :

said by nightdesigns :

Watching kcal?

Yes, and I hate it.

They keep repeating the mantra of "creating its own weather" regardless if it even remotely applies.

The Irvine reporter interviewed a firefighter who mentioned the cities situated to the south of Irvine - did not imply any danger or anything of the like. The reporter immediately started talking about the endangered communities of Turtle Rock and Newport Beach.

Same gal reported evacuations in Portola Hills. Wrong. Portola Springs. Very different and at least 10 miles off.

The helicopter reporter in "Canyon Country" coined a new word when referring to the plural of vortex ... "vorticities."

The FCC should pull their license. Idiots.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:59:35 EDT

81399672 :

said by corrosive23 :

yeah. everyone else is showing sitcoms. Fuck that, I want to know whats going on. CDF's page is timeing out and the chp cad is slow as hell. I need to send my wife to work to get real updates. (shes a 911 dispatcher)

can't she just call the center and get update from her coworker?

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:57:15 EDT

corrosive23 : I hope not, most (75%) of my neighborhood burned to the ground.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:56:41 EDT

corrosive23 : yeah. everyone else is showing sitcoms. Fuck that, I want to know whats going on. CDF's page is timeing out and the chp cad is slow as hell. I need to send my wife to work to get real updates. (shes a 911 dispatcher)

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:53:51 EDT

nightdesigns :

said by corrosive23 :

The Ontario fire is really north Chino, they say the fires are jumping from hay stacks to hay stacks and its around schaffer off vineyard, which is chino if im not mistaken.

Watching kcal?
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:53:37 EDT

bjl :

said by 81399672 :

time to change the tile of the thread to Southern California is on fire

It's like Oct 2003 all over again.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:53:03 EDT

corrosive23 : The Ontario fire is really north Chino, they say the fires are jumping from hay stacks to hay stacks and its around schaffer off vineyard, which is chino if im not mistaken.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:41:41 EDT

corrosive23 : ontario fd is 1039 so the removed it from the cad list.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:40:34 EDT

ghostpainter : Thanks....

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:40:15 EDT

nightdesigns : Santiago Incident

Report Updated:
9:15 PM 10/21/07

TIME OF ALARM: 5:55 PM 10/21/07

INCIDENT#: ORC 07068555

INCIDENT NAME: Santiago Incident

LOCATION: Originated at Santiago Canyon and Silverado Canyon (Thomas Brothers page 832 A2). Burned through Hicks Canyon toward Jeffery and Portola, now wind-driven in a south-westerly direction.

CONDITIONS ON ARRIVAL: Unknown

CONTAINMENT: Not at this time

CONTROL: Not at this time

PRELIMINARY CAUSE: Unknown

WEATHER CONDITIONS: For information check with National Weather Service - Southern California or California Weather

COMMAND: Orange County Fire Authority

INCIDENT COMMANDER: Chief Rich Witesman

FIREFIGHTING ASSETS: Info coming

* 400+ Firefighters

ACRES BURNED: Approximately 3,800

STRUCTURES BURNED: None at this time

REPORTED INJURIES: None at this time

EVACUATIONS: No mandatory evacuations at this time. Residents of Orchard Hills and Portola Springs areas of Irvine may voluntarily exacuate to the Lakeview Senior Center at Lake and Barranca. Other residents are asked to stay at home with windows and doors closed.

ROAD CLOSURES: Portola is closed between Sand Canyon and the 241 and Jamboree is closed between Chapman and Portola. Check with Cal Trans for freeway and toll road closures. Check with the local police department for city street closures.

FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:

* Orange County Operational Area Public Information Hotline - (714) 628-7085
* News Radio for current and future incidents:
o AM 980 - KFWB
o AM 1070 - KNX
o AM 640 - KFI
o AM 1640 for Irvine residents
o Please save these stations on your battery-powered and car radios.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:39:16 EDT

corrosive23 : its on the chp cad and on the news.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:38:20 EDT

ghostpainter :

said by corrosive23 :

New fire now in Ontario off the 10 at Vineyard. Lemme tell you, I almost crapped my pants today when I saw a big rig tip over on the EB60 to NB15 Trans Road around 5 today. Scared the shit out of me. Tomorrow I'm not driving my Yukon to work. Fuck that. It was worse than driving on ice today.

:ninja edit of "off" to "over"

10 and Vineyard? That is industry, hotels on the south side and 5,000 apts on the north with one large 500 acre empty plot of land up to 4th....I have no reports or alerts.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:37:28 EDT

81399672 : time to change the tile of the thread to Southern California is on fire
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:36:25 EDT

corrosive23 : 2296 9:34PM Report of Fire SB I215 AT I15 San Bernardino - trees between the freeways
2295 9:33PM Report of Fire YUCAIPA BLVD AT OAK GLEN RD Inland Communications Center :edit: some guy put it out with his garden hose :uhh:

great...... that 215@15 fire is a new one.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:32:15 EDT

ghostpainter :

said by simplykristi :

Stay safe! How far are you from the Fontana fire?

Kristi

We are about 12 miles as the crow flies, but Lisa's sister in law lives up in Devore where the other fire started at almost the same time as the fire on the other side of the hill and yet that fire was a car fire according to CHP.

They were just now allowed to go back in after being out for over 9 hours...But winds in that area are up to 70 mph, so they have no lights, nor hot water.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:29:12 EDT

corrosive23 : New fire now in Ontario off the 10 at Vineyard. Lemme tell you, I almost crapped my pants today when I saw a big rig tip over on the EB60 to NB15 Trans Road around 5 today. Scared the shit out of me. Tomorrow I'm not driving my Yukon to work. Fuck that. It was worse than driving on ice today.

:ninja edit of "off" to "over"

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:26:08 EDT

No_Strings : An acquaintance is evacuating her place Portola Springs and coming to stay with neighbors here.

Burn area map from the Register site.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:21:13 EDT

nightdesigns : View from the end of my block on the RSM/Mission Viejo Border

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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:21:01 EDT

81399672 : Speaking of power, what is up with that. Did some power line get knocked out as result of the fire?
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:19:11 EDT

Stiofan : I've been through so many of these friggin things.... now I'm about 4 miles from the Camarillo/Moorpark fire on Santa Rosa Rd and maybe 12 miles north of Malibu, and i heard think there was one near Figuroa Mtn in Ojai earlier too, the sky is red all over. At about 3:00pm everybody on the roads had their lights on it was so dark. Worse for me was my power was out for 5 hours this morning, was about to run to the store for ice. Very inconvenient while houses burn. :o

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:18:23 EDT

bjl :

said by nightdesigns :

ocfa.org for up to date info on the OC fire.

Thanks for the link...

wow... approx 3800 acres burned already!

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:16:45 EDT

bjl : Here's some of the photos I got:

From my front porch looking mostly east.
[att=1]

Tustin Ranch Rd @ I-5.
[att=2]

Jamboree @ Irvine
[att=3]

Irvine Overpass of 261 toll road:
[att=4]

That's where we turned around as fire trucks started to pass us.

Now, three an a half hours later, it's really smoky outside. and I can smell it in here. :(

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:16:21 EDT

nightdesigns : ocfa.org for up to date info on the OC fire.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:15:36 EDT

simplykristi : Stay safe! How far are you from the Fontana fire?

Kristi
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:06:42 EDT

drjim : My ex's brother lives in Santa Clarita, and they were told to evacuate several hours ago.
Hope everybody gets through this OK....
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:02:07 EDT

CurtesyFlush : That's just me digesting in your general direction.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:00:55 EDT

ghostpainter : Thanks Kristi....Laguna Peak in Santa Barbara County recorded winds at 108 mph at 6:30....We have winds of 35 to 40 with gusts to 60....Our mobile home tends to move a little when it does that and I am sitting in the Northeast corner of our double wide....Feels like little earthquakes. ;)

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 23:51:18 EDT

simplykristi : It sounds really bad out there. :( I saw live shots of the fire in Malibu. That looks really scary with all the fire.

Stay safe, everyone!

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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 22:53:20 EDT

No_Strings : Has to be the Irvine one. Nothing more than a faint, orange glow along the hill line from here (so far).

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 22:34:35 EDT

goddfather40 : OC Register reporting mandatory evacuation in the area of the 241 and Portola, but I don't know which Portola exit. I am assuming the west exit near the Portola Springs development in Irvine.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 22:32:22 EDT

ghostpainter :

said by Maleficent :

»maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&···ce=embed

There seems to be a whole buttload of fires. I thought there was only 6.

I think it is 12 major fires....The winds are now gusting here to 45 kts....
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 22:29:13 EDT

bjl : Thanks. We went out and I got a few (dozen) photos too. Haven't had a chance to get them off the camera yet.

I can see red/orange glowing smoke from my front porch, but it's a few miles away.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 22:27:51 EDT

goddfather40 : Just went out to get a bite to eat in Aliso Viejo and the Santiago Canyon fire is absolutely exploding off to the north. Can see flames here and we are 10 miles due south or so. People are stopping in their cars on some of the roads with good views to check it out.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 21:59:58 EDT

No_Strings :

said by bjl :

NEW FIRE IN OC near Tustin/Irvine hills... not sure where... going to see if we can find out.

According to my source, it's burning over the hill in Santiago Canyon. Shot these 30 minutes or so ago. One looking up toward the canyon and Orange, two toward the West and the old El Toro base.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 21:55:29 EDT

Maleficent : There seems to be a whole buttload of fires. I thought there was only 6.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 21:41:01 EDT

81399672 : i lost count,how many major fires do we have?

New Fire Irvine

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 21:39:27 EDT

ghostpainter :

said by bjl :

NEW FIRE IN OC near Tustin/Irvine hills... not sure where... going to see if we can find out.

Per the hotlist, rapid ROS, wind driven upslope, immediate structure threat.
Major potential, headed toward the city of Irvine.
Has jumped highway 241.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 21:15:04 EDT

bjl : NEW FIRE IN OC near Tustin/Irvine hills... not sure where... going to see if we can find out.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 21:14:22 EDT

Sunsetstrip : Check out the NWS 1km visable sattlitte image,you can see smoke from multiple fires in LA and san Diego county blowing out to sea

»sat.wrh.noaa.gov/satellite/loops···s&size=1

New Fire, Big Bear FireCire command, Lake Arrowhead

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:46:10 EDT

ghostpainter : New start in the San Bernardino National Forest near Lake Arrowhead: »rimoftheworld.net/columns/news/rimforest

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:34:47 EDT

CurtesyFlush : Is there something going on in the Witch Creek area?

EDIT: n/m, I read the article.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:29:08 EDT

Bolt Backer :

said by CurtesyFlush :

9 major wildland fires working in So Cal atm. 1 fatality, 4 firefighter injuries, both down in the Witch Creek area of San
Diego County.

I believe the death and the injuries happened at the Harris fire near Potrero.

quote:
Five firefighters were injured when their fire engine was overtaken by the Harris Fire, Sunday afternoon. That fire had blackened about 2,500 acres by 2:45 p.m., according to Roxanne Provaznik of CalFire. The injured firefighters were taken by air ambulance to a burn center for treatment. The body of a civilian was also found in that burn area, but officials had no details on the person's identity. Four other civilians have been injured

Source
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:22:54 EDT

CurtesyFlush :

said by sashwa :

You guys stay as safe as you all can!

Question for you all - Do you all go thru this every year or is it especially bad this time?

Every year, especially in the Fall. Some years are worse than others, it all depends on the Santa Ana Winds.
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Re: New Fire Riverside County

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:21:31 EDT

CurtesyFlush :

said by ghostpainter :

New Fire in Riverside County

Hwy 371 x Roca Vista (just north of Hwy 79 South)

Command on RRU-2 (151.175)

Report On Conditions:
5 acres
rapid rate of spread
heavy fuels
40mph winds
immediate structure threat

That's on Cahuilla Rd north of Aguanga.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:18:19 EDT

81399672 :

said by sashwa :

You guys stay as safe as you all can!

Question for you all - Do you all go thru this every year or is it especially bad this time?

ye yearly, last one here was about 2 years ago. I mean were i am right now

New Fire Riverside County

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:13:39 EDT

ghostpainter : New Fire in Riverside County

Hwy 371 x Roca Vista (just north of Hwy 79 South)

Command on RRU-2 (151.175)

Report On Conditions:
5 acres
rapid rate of spread
heavy fuels
40mph winds
immediate structure threat
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:09:49 EDT

No_Strings :

said by sashwa :

Do you all go thru this every year or is it especially bad this time?

We act this way all the time.

Oh, you meant ...

We get strong Santa Ana winds here several times a year. One good blow in October seems like a given. The severity varies greatly over the area. A few miles away can mean getting nothing.

The drought is especially bad right now, so hot dry winds almost ensure fires. Some are deliberate, some set through carelessness and some are accidental (a malfunctioning catalytic converter or down power line).

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:06:02 EDT

ghostpainter :

said by sashwa :

You guys stay as safe as you all can!

Question for you all - Do you all go thru this every year or is it especially bad this time?

Every year and worse this year because of the drought...I think this is the third major fire in Malibu in my lifetime, about one major blaze every 15-20 years, with all kinds of small fires.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:05:02 EDT

Gizy : What sash said....be safe down there!

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:03:05 EDT

ghostpainter : This has the latest updates as well for Malibu.

Canyon incident webcams:
»www.watchthewater.org/beach.cfm?bid=45
»www.watchthewater.org/beach.cfm?bid=49
»www.watchthewater.org/beach.cfm?bid=50
»www.watchthewater.org/beach.cfm?bid=15
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:01:43 EDT

sashwa : You guys stay as safe as you all can!

Question for you all - Do you all go thru this every year or is it especially bad this time?

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 18:55:35 EDT

CurtesyFlush : 9 major wildland fires working in So Cal atm. 1 fatality, 4 firefighter injuries, both down in the Witch Creek area of San
Diego County.
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Re: New Fire Devore

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 18:51:59 EDT

Bloominite : Yeah, we're getting smoke from the Devore fire at our house in Bloomington. The wind's blowing pretty good. I was in my 88 1 ton dually and it was getting knocked around pretty good.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 18:45:45 EDT

bjl :

said by No_Strings :

said by bjl :

It's been getting progressively smokier here in Tustin for the past couple of hours...

Same here. Smelled smoke a couple of hours ago, and it's bad now.

Well, since I posted, its gotten a little better here.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 18:45:32 EDT

CurtesyFlush : CH 13 has someone at the Fontana fire and is actually broadcasting standups from it. Imagine that, an L.A. channel.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 18:42:13 EDT

81399672 : the clouds here are dark , seems from malibu fire

Re: New Fire Devore

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 18:41:10 EDT

CurtesyFlush : 1 building, a vacant house, has burned in the Fontana fire.

There are 2 fires, one in Fontana, one in Devore.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 18:39:48 EDT

No_Strings :

said by bjl :

It's been getting progressively smokier here in Tustin for the past couple of hours...

Same here. Smelled smoke a couple of hours ago, and it's bad now.

Re: New Fire Devore

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 18:37:20 EDT

Bloominite : I was just in north Rialto and Fontana and snapped a couple pics.

Smoke can be seen over the dump (looking NW from Alder Ave and the 210)
Fire trucks staging at the Sierra Lakes development, Sierra Ave just north of the 210

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 18:18:47 EDT

bjl : Anyone know if there's a fire in the Santa Ana mountains between OC and Riverside counties? It's been getting progressively smokier here in Tustin for the past couple of hours... I guess this could also be from the fire up off the 15?

Re: New Fire Devore

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 18:08:42 EDT

ghostpainter : They have diverted the Super Scooper's to the Aqua Duice fire and have called in units from other agencies.

Sierra/Fontana fire has called for 3 rd alarm and OES Tankers.

Re: New Fire Devore

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 16:45:10 EDT

CurtesyFlush : And another new one in Aqua Dulce, 1 home already burned. L.A. County's out of engines and had requested L.A. City out there.
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New Fire Devore

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 16:42:16 EDT

ghostpainter : A new fire has started at the 15 and Glen Helen...Confirmed by Lisa's Sister in Law, who had to turn around...Fire burning to the SSW from the NNE towards North Fontana and Rialto. only one unit on scene calling for mutual aid and tankers.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:00:31 EDT

CurtesyFlush : These Ch 7 talking heads need to take a class in Wildland Fire Behavior 101.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 14:49:56 EDT

onDvine :

said by Bill :

...the comment from the anchor about "you'd think he'd have something better to do" shows that.

I don't recall the exact words, but it seemed to me the gist of it was more like, "[He has better (or more important?) things to do than deal with us]," as if acknowledging being in the way. The crew was on the campus' private property. Anyhow that was my take on it.

And yeah, the young campus cop was funny: stuck between not being authorized to speak on camera and being obliged to tell them to leave while it was running.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 14:25:01 EDT

CurtesyFlush : CH 7's coverage has become the Lily Falah Lawrence show.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 14:06:41 EDT

simplykristi : I am watching live coverage on CNN.

Kristi

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 14:01:53 EDT

CurtesyFlush : Raise em up, send them to university, and they still don't have enough sense to not wear flip flops when they're walking outside with a brush fire surrounding them.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:49:49 EDT

CurtesyFlush : Captain Obvious strikes again.....

New Starts in San Diego

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:36:54 EDT

ghostpainter : What a Smart Ass....

2nd fire Deerhorn Valley/Mopther Grundy Truck Trail in Honey Springs.
Heartland sending Type 3 strike team 6441c to this response.

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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:36:25 EDT

81399672 :

said by Bill :

Anyone just see the ABC7 reported get told to stop taping, on live TV? :D Had to be embarrassing for her.

only becuse she was on private property, once she was on public property he couldn't do a dam thing about it.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:31:03 EDT

CurtesyFlush : I missed that part.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:29:54 EDT

Bill : News reporters think they are above everyone else and rules do not apply to them...the comment from the anchor about "you'd think he'd have something better to do" shows that.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:29:01 EDT

CurtesyFlush :

said by corrosive23 :

the monkeys who cant figure anything out.

The suits?
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:27:24 EDT

CurtesyFlush : I saw that. The campus cop was acting like the frikkin Secret Service.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:25:04 EDT

corrosive23 : Id love to, but I have to go into work today. Im the on call guy for the monkeys who cant figure anything out.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:24:19 EDT

Bill : Anyone just see the ABC7 reported get told to stop taping, on live TV? :D Had to be embarrassing for her.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:22:08 EDT

CurtesyFlush : Stay away from the 210/15.

»www.sigalert.com/map.asp?Region=···e+County
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:17:07 EDT

ghostpainter : Its getting worse;

New start MVU Near Potrero. Harris Ranch Road and HWY 94. AA reports 40 to 60 acres,
rapid rate of spread, area ignition and long range spotting occurring. Immediate structure
threat, preparing to place a large aircraft order

Fire in Potrero Area San Diego County. Heartland just dispatched an
Immediate need strike team 6440A Heartland CMD 5 Tac 9 when onscene
switching to CDF CMD 2 Tone 4.

Streaming news coverage is available at:

»myfoxla.com

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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:13:37 EDT

corrosive23 : Great, multiple sections of both the 210, 15, and 60 have sig alerts and I have to go to Chino Hills today.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:09:54 EDT

CurtesyFlush :

said by 81399672 :

do you mean topanga closed at mulholand?

PCH between Kanan Dune and Topanga.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:07:03 EDT

CurtesyFlush : Either roof spotting or wires arcing.

There's now a home on the beach fully involved.

Make that multiple homes in Malibu Colony.,

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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:06:28 EDT

Bloominite :

said by CurtesyFlush :

Holy crap, I hope they got the animals out of that animal hospital that's now nothing but a red glow.

We had to board our 2 dogs and 1 cat during our last trip tp Oregon and fire was our big worry.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:01:19 EDT

ghostpainter : thats the way fire storms with 50 kt Santa Ana's pushing act...One block is sparred while the other is decimated....And indeed the famous Castle is gone.

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 12:52:52 EDT

81399672 : do you mean topanga closed at mulholand?

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 12:42:51 EDT

dogma : I can now see the smoke from my 20 looking North up the coast. I understand there are about 16 homes engulfed including the famous Kashan Castle .

How is it that certain homes are burning, yet the brush next to them don't seem to be?

Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 12:11:20 EDT

CurtesyFlush : Holy crap, I hope they got the animals out of that animal hospital that's now nothing but a red glow.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 11:49:13 EDT

CurtesyFlush : Malibu, Castaic, Porter Ranch.
PCH closed. Pepperdine University evacuated.
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Re: Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 11:46:19 EDT

ghostpainter : *MAJOR EMERGENCY BRUSH FIRE* Tampa Ave and Sesnon Bl.; TG 480-G6; FS 8, UPDATE: Fire is in LA County, moving toward City. More than 100 LAFD personnel at scene

Major Fire Alerts, Malibu, Chatsworth

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 11:35:24 EDT

ghostpainter : Malibu Again....101 closed, as is Topanga Canyon...Several homes and buildings burning.

Update: Channel 11, 13, 7, Fox News, CNN all covering.

Brush Fire I-5 and Templen Highway
LACoFD working brush now reported 50 acres, started as a structure.
Wind gusts up to 50 mph. LACoFD Blue 11