| Yawn The main effect of Comcast's doings is that you can't seed torrents. Read the terms of service. Running servers isn't allowed. The "innovators" that EFF is so concerned about should grow up and pay for hosting.
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 HangmnDon't Fight It...It's InevitablePremium
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Philadelphia, PA | said by massysett:The main effect of Comcast's doings is that you can't seed torrents. Read the terms of service. Running servers isn't allowed. The "innovators" that EFF is so concerned about should grow up and pay for hosting. This is all a bunch of hoopla over nothing. Its not the specifics here that are in question..its the precedent it is setting.
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said by massysett:The main effect of Comcast's doings is that you can't seed torrents. Read the terms of service. Running servers isn't allowed. The "innovators" that EFF is so concerned about should grow up and pay for hosting. This is all a bunch of hoopla over nothing. Why do so many people support the industry on these issues?
Just because they put a bunch of words in their TOS, doesn't make it fair.
If I pay for a service, and then I pay for another service to run over the other service, why should one be able to degrade the other? Just because this isn't VOIP we are talking about, it doesn't make it any less valid.
As for the people who say the ISP needs to protect their network, just remember, without the consumer, there is no money for said network, so think about it again, on whos network it really is.
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| said by gatorkram: Just because they put a bunch of words in their TOS, doesn't make it fair. Errr... yes, that's precisely what it means. Comcast offers a Service in the marketplace for a set price. The Terms of that Service are clearly spelled out so you know what you are getting for that set price.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't "fair". Grow up. |
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emptywigHuh? What?Premium
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Pasadena, TX | reply to massysett
That's not the main effect. Its only one effect.
I'm just trying to stream some legit, paid-for video over the connection I PAID FOR and Comcast's crap is screwing that up too. I can't watch for more than a few minutes at a time before my connection gets reset.
QUIT F*&KING WITH OUR TRAFFIC.
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Using Lotus Notes has NOTHING to do with Torrents. They are traffic shaping this also. Tele-commuters are affected by this. Was it not broadband that was supposed to help tele-commuters? |
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said by massysett:The main effect of Comcast's doings is that you can't seed torrents. Read the terms of service. Running servers isn't allowed. The "innovators" that EFF is so concerned about should grow up and pay for hosting. This is all a bunch of hoopla over nothing. Will you give them the money??
The guys who founded Hewlett Packard, Sun Microsystems, Apple Computer all did it from their home garage. |
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said by jester121:said by gatorkram: Just because they put a bunch of words in their TOS, doesn't make it fair. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't "fair". Grow up. This is not a matter of like or dislike. It's a matter of fair or unfair to the consumer. Unfair contracts or clauses within contracts are called unconscionable in the legal field and will not be enforced by the courts.
ATT Wireless had a clause in their contract which said people who signed for service were not allowed to sue ATT. Guess what? ATT was not able to enforce it. Why? Because you have the basic legal right to sue.
It's a matter of time before Comcast is sued and forced to shape up. |
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