Comcast 'Delaying' Not 'Blocking' Traffic > Devils Advocate

Devils Advocate

Here's where you are somewhat wrong. If they upgrade the network, that 10% are still stuck using the same speeds they are already maxing out. There's nothing more for them to suck up yet there is now additional bandwidth for the other 90% to take advantage of.

And who's really to blame here? They keep jacking the speeds. People will use those speeds. Where's the bandwidth to compensate? They keep adding customers. Where's the bandwidth to compensate? Don't blame the users for their own short-sightedness.

reply to NOCMan
Here's how I see it.
Comcast..is a chinese buffet.
All you can eat for 7.99.

There's a line of 50 of us at lunch.

4 or them weigh 800 lbs and will consume 40% of the whole table leaving a whole lot less for the other 46 of us.

You say that Comcast should feed them what they want.

I say they should eat less or divide up their meals with some other establishment.

Comcast does not owe them that much food for 7.99 and is not here to accomodate them.

Their use is impacting all the rest of us.

They are the ones who need to make other arrangments...
Comcast needs to keep doing what they're doing.
Stopping them from taking all the food because it hurts the rest of us.

Comcast should not have to put more food out on the table to feed those 4..for that same price.

Damn..now I'm hungry.
Time for an early lunch.
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The Coyote captured the RR! Roadrunner Rick is now Comcastic!

Then implement a cap, and ensure customers know what the cap is. I would rather be capped than slowed.

reply to Rick

reply to Rick
What a stupid analogy on your part.

Buffet works on a single principle that some people will eat exactly their $7.99 worth, some will eat less than $7.99 worth, and a few will eat more than $7.99 worth, however on average, even with some people who eat more than $7.99 buffet will still be profitable. It's all about projecting average food demand and adjusting food supplies and prices accordingly.

If comcast can't project average demand and adjust speeds and bandwidth accordingly, whose fault is that?

A buffet which sets the prices too low will go out of business due to revenue loss, a buffet which starts imposing limits on what kind of food and how much a customer may get will lose customers and will also go out of business, only the buffet which correctly projects average demand and stacks enough food (or bandwidth in comcast case) and sets appropriate price that will average out the cost of the food and labor will survive.

Unfortunately due to monopolistic nature of comcast and ISPs in USA in general it's not going to happen. Many customers do not have a choice, so comcast and others, bells including are free to do whatever they want and customer can't do anything because ther is no competitor they could switch to.

Everyone has all these analogys that dont take into account that comcast is apparently overselling thier nodes in dense areas, and instead of upgrading or expanding, they are traffic shaping.

Here's one; an airline sells 1200 seats on a 400 person plane. After it fills, theres still 200 people waiting to board the plane(600 didnt show up). After a few hours, the people in line wonder why the line isnt moving.

Meanwhile, the pilot notices there are 47 people who weigh 300 pounds, so he tells them to get off the plane. Another 63 people are wearing eyepatches, so they have to go too ...
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‘Do ye, quieting in your bosoms your strong hearts,
Who of many good things have had your fill even to surfeit,
With what is moderate nourish your mighty desire; for neither will
We yield, nor shall you have all else as you wish.’
Solon

reply to Rick
And Comcast is 'ready now' for the demands of streaming tv/video and yet they're doing crap like this now. Yawn ... yeah.

reply to gaforces
Don't be silly, everyone knows fat people can't go in normal planes! they forklift them into the cargo hold.

reply to NOCMan

reply to james
Comcast may not be perfect but when you attack fat people you attack the USA!

reply to Rick
Rick You are right.
Comcast should be a Chinese buffet.
Bruce

reply to james
Why take slow boat, much faster to take jet plane.

reply to Shill Patrol
I heard they got some genius engineers, they hooked up some quad-shield coax to a glider pulling 300 more people behind that 777!
OH, nevermind that was another story ...