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inteller
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the fires are so bad, it is even altering the spelling.

CaliFIRnia......Freudian slip?

hopefully this will encourage them to seek out better methods of deploying fiber....like maybe burying it a few feet deep.

JSRoman
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Most likey future post in Charter forum. .

Fires have been out for 2 hours and I still can't believe I don't have service. Charter sucks!
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ptrowski
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We you have fires burning that hot, a few feet deep most likely would not be sufficient.


NOCMan
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A few feet is fine, dirt is a great insulator and it's not like chernobyl is burning above it.

Most likely it's a building the fiber came up in for termination or boosting that caught fire. In that case they're in for a prolonged outage.

Could also be a place where the fiber had to run down a pole.


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said by NOCMan See Profile :

A few feet is fine, dirt is a great insulator and it's not like chernobyl is burning above it.

Most likely it's a building the fiber came up in for termination or boosting that caught fire. In that case they're in for a prolonged outage.

Could also be a place where the fiber had to run down a pole.
True. After some fires I have been to there was quite a bit of damage a few feet down.


jinjimbob
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said by ptrowski See Profile :

We you have fires burning that hot, a few feet deep most likely would not be sufficient.
All utilities have to be atleast 3 feet down, I'm sure that the major ones are even deeper.


MacLeech
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said by inteller See Profile :

...better methods of deploying fiber....like maybe burying it a few feet deep.
That's a great idea for a mountainous area prone to rock and mud slides... like Malibu.

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said by inteller See Profile :

CaliFIRnia......Freudian slip?

hopefully this will encourage them to seek out better methods of deploying fiber....like maybe burying it a few feet deep.
That part of California is nowhere near as flat as Oklahoma. They can sell two sides of the same acre in some places, down there.

I have trained, for the California Army National Guard, in similar terrain around Los Padres National Forest (Camp Robers and Fort Hunter-Liggett). And I worked the Roggé, and Ackerson Complex fires, near Yosemite, in 1996 (National Guard, again; drove a 2 1/2 ton truck in support of the fire fighters). You are talking steep slopes and narrow canyons.

One of the more impressive drives, in California, is the Nacimiento-Ferguson Road. My first trip on that road was from Bradley, California, west through Lockwood, and over teh Santa Lucia mountains down to S.R. 1, near Limekiln State Park. The decent from the divide down the mountain to the highway is breathtaking; considering that the mountains aren't nearly as high as the Sierra Nevada, or Colorado Rockies.

»sjs.jsei.ucla.edu/~sjs/Nacimiento/index.html
»gocalifornia.about.com/cs/hearst···enda.htm

But a fire of this magnitude dwarfs those that I worked. And my first night on the line was one of anxiety.
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Fiber_MeltsTOO

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said by inteller See Profile :

CaliFIRnia......Freudian slip?

hopefully this will encourage them to seek out better methods of deploying fiber....like maybe burying it a few feet deep.
You don't know much about heat do you?


KrK
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Imagine relatives trying to call family members in the firezone and not being able to reach them, and getting no response on the Internet either. I'd bet they'd be worried, bad. Maybe this news will actually help calm some people...


StevieD 4U

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Fiber on the pole

All utilities have to be atleast 3 feet down, I'm sure that the major ones are even deeper.
Not true. Many major fiber lines are above ground on poles. For example, most of the major lines across the canyons of the Santa Monica Mountains and along Pacific Coast Highway can be seen strung on pole lines along the highways. Also fiber to nodes that serve hundreds of homes are located on poles.

I'm in Time Warner (former Adelphia) territory about 5 miles away from the fireline. We lost a couple of local channels the T-W carries via a fiber loop for a few hours before the rerouted it around the ring the other way during the height of the disaster Sunday night.
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