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 ThalerPremium
join:2004-02-02
Los Angeles, CA
kudos:3
 ·DSL EXTREME
| reply to wedgedkitty
Re: Come clean,Comcast! said by wedgedkitty:Sure, I know those wacky Japanese "pie-in-the-crotch" tv shows I watch is copyrighted and technically illegal, but I have a strong suspicion that non-BT users aren't exactly following EVERY copyright laws to the T either (in regards to every book, cd, album, tape, newspaper article, etc. that we all come across in our lifetime). *shrugs* All my BT downloaded distros, patches, software, music, etc., are clean & legal.
said by wedgedkitty:I'm sure quite a few people also get their pirated content via direct download and all those file hosting services out there - does this mean it's ok for ISPs to "delay/throttle/[enter comcast euphemism] general downloads too? I couldn't see why not. Since the ISP's determined one form of internet traffic to be "problematic", it's their call as to how many other uses need to be throttled. | | |
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 jester121Premium
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
 ·voip.ms
| reply to xrobertcmx
said by xrobertcmx:I know they claim otherwise, however my experience has been that within 5 minutes of launching any client my access to the internet fails. The shiny lights on the modem stay on, customer support claims they can see my Modem, but without power cycling the device I am unable to access any websites. Sadly, the symptoms you describe aren't indicative of Sandvine filtering. Remember, we're talking about inspecting the contents of packets to determine what's inside -- HTTP GET requests to port 80 tcp aren't going to get flagged by Sandvine, and should proceed through normally. | |
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said by Thaler:*shrugs* All my BT downloaded distros, patches, software, music, etc., are clean & legal. Exactly. There is legal content on BT, so why ban all of BT when there is perfectly legal content out there that BT can help distribute?
said by wedgedkitty:I'm sure quite a few people also get their pirated content via direct download and all those file hosting services out there - does this mean it's ok for ISPs to "delay/throttle/[enter comcast euphemism] general downloads too? said by Thaler:I couldn't see why not. Since the ISP's determined one form of internet traffic to be "problematic", it's their call as to how many other uses need to be throttled. Oh, I'm sure they could. As many have argued, it's their equipment and network, but isn't being a service company supposed to mean providing service to customers? Comcast's tone is more of arrogance to customers whom they've given the privilege to use Comcast's network. Maybe their solution, and all other ISPs, is to revert back to dial-up speed only. That should solve the BT problem. I'll also wait for the day when all tape decks, vcrs, and photocopiers are dragged off to the garbage dumps for being evil tools for copyright violation. | |
ThalerPremium
join:2004-02-02
Los Angeles, CA
kudos:3 Reviews:
·DSL EXTREME
| said by wedgedkitty:As many have argued, it's their equipment and network, but isn't being a service company supposed to mean providing service to customers? In layman's terms, yes it is. Customers pay an ISP for internet access. In legal/marketing agreements, well, it's whatever they identify "access" to be. They could very well simply limit you to HTTP access and call that "access", and there's little recourse to take, other than switching ISPs.
Personally, I try to avoid the "what is the definition of 'is'?" kind of consumer interaction wherever possible. I desire both speed and legal use of my internet access (within reason - ie. no hundreds of GB a month...just everyday user amounts). If an ISP is going to deny me use (access) to the internet I wish to use, then speed doesn't mean crap. | |
skomp
join:2002-11-26
Evanston, IL | reply to Thaler
>> Unfortunately, due to monopoly pole positions, little of what anyone has to say here will change a damn thing. For most markets, Comcast is the only broadband option. There's just no comparison between dial-up and even gimped broadband access.
Of course, if Comcast actually had some viable competition, they'd have to address these issues, lest they be dropped like a hot rock.
This is what happens when we all switch to their service and stop supporting the little guys.
This country has turned into a Costco, Starbucks, Best Buy, Home Depot and Wal-Mart place because we didn't support the smaller competiton.
Now were stuck with those companies and their business practices.
i think this Comcast/Bit Torrent mess is goign to spell the end of torrent technology -
fortunately someone will come up with a new technology.
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| said by skomp:This is what happens when we all switch to their service and stop supporting the little guys. I tried supporting little guys. Some of them went out of business, others were bought by the big guys. | |
NormanSPremium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
kudos:4 Reviews:
·SONIC.NET
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| reply to skomp
said by skomp:For most markets, Comcast is the only broadband option. For some values of "most".
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Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
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