djweis
join:2006-04-02
West Des Moines, IA
| reply to azzonie
Re: Qwest laying fiber?
Something is definitely going on in West Des Moines, IA. I was driving north on 50th Street and the contractors that Qwest uses in this area were putting in a conduit from the power transformer 1/2 block away over to a SAC cabinet that is a short enough distance from the CO to provide 1.5 meg to the customers now. My area just got a new remote DSLAM across the street from the previous remote DSLAM I am currently fed from. Very strange. |
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Mark_in_CO
@Level3.com
| reply to BillRadio
Bill,
I haven't had a Qwest line for 3 years, I only use my mobile for dial tone, so I don't really care if they take the copper.
Turbocpe,
FTTN (Fiber to the node) is faster because it runs fiber to the local wiring access node then on your regular copper to your house. I believe a DSLAM is installed at the wiring node and back ends ATM over fiber - I am sure there is someone here that can provide all the details. The wiring node is usually 100-3000 ft away rather than 15,000 ft to my central office. Hence 7M is easy and 20M is possible but not currently being offered by Qwest in my area. I am sure they will change their mind as Comcast step up their speed.
Meanwhile ...
Qwest install went well, but not the sales pitch speed 7M/2M, instead I got 7M/896k. Still pretty good, and it runs A LOT faster than 8M/384k Comcast cable, plus less CPU overhead (kinda weird that one - I can only guess I was being port scanned on Comcast). Bit Torrent runs 2-5x faster than on Comcast, and my remote desktop over Citrix telecommute doesn't get bogged down if I BT in the background. It is naked (no dial tone) DSL for $46 minus $5 since I have bundled it with DirectTV.
I am on Month-to-month which is no contract and price is fixed for 12 months, then increases by $10. I am hoping that in a year there will be other options to upgrade to, i.e. WiMax, or another DSL FTTN ISP, worst case is I would switch back to Comcast for their $19.99/month intro offer.
Odd thing is that Qwest.Net does not offer any e-mail or NNTP, so bear that in mind. You can also choose Microsoft as the ISP over your Qwest fiber - the price is the same.
Still no news on Qwest Choice TV, I am now hearing it could be 2 to 12 months away, so I went with DirectTV. DirectTV is $60/month for 1 PVR + 2 regular receivers and 200 or so channels, with movie channels free for 3 months. |
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BillRadio
join:2007-01-08
Aurora, CO
| reply to Mark_in_CO
Mark,
Heads Up! If indeed Qwest is laying fiber to your house, make sure they don't touch the copper! Verizon fiber installers are instructed to remove as much copper as possible. This eliminates the possibility of ever returning to your old service, even if they "guarantee" it.
Even though I'm happy with satellite, I would welcome the chance to consider Qwest TV. (I'm not in Aurora but south of it) |
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Tolemac
@qwest.net | reply to azzonie
Does anyone know if Qwest is also laying fiber in Santa Fe, New Mexico?? Would love it if they were. |
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evilpeppard
Always Fight For Freedom
Premium
join:2003-08-20
Aurora, CO
clubs: 
| reply to Mark_in_CO
said by Mark_in_CO :
They are laying fiber in northwest Denver (Arvada). I am ~15000 ft from the CO and best speed was 1.5M. I am having DSL over fiber installed tomorrow @ 7M/2M for $46/month. I will let you know how it goes. They say they will also be offering Qwest choice TV in about 2 months time. Bye bye Comcast.
I noticed Qwest down the block from us this last summer. I stopped and asked what they were doing and they stated "laying fiber". I am in Centennial, CO (SE of Denver by about 15 miles).
We just got a flyer on our door last week. 7MB is now available with "price for life" @ $36.99 (if we get a deluxe or higher phone package).
We have been with Comcast for about a year now on the "triple play" deal. We are already paying close to $200 with 3 receivers, Internet and the phone. I am seriously thinking of checking into the phone and Internet with Qwest again (I am a huge online gamer and MUST have my high speed Internet) now that they've dropped off this flyer. I don't care a ton about what I'm paying with Comcast, but if I can get sweet Internet for about $20 less per month, I might be interested. 
How is the 7mb? Do you have much overhead? Are you happy with it so far?
We actually have DirectTV still until our contract runs out in December, but I really don't want to flip the bill for a bunch of new HD receivers and a contract with DTV when Comcast doesn't require a contract and supplies HDTV compatible equipment.
Decisions, decisions.
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Turbocpe
Premium
join:2001-12-22
IA
| reply to js2318
said by js2318  :if they starting running fiber to these nodes and do offer up to 20m, thats great. But what about CO based service? The majority of customers are still going to be fed via CO based DSLAMs. Are they going to be upgrade so they to can offer 20m service? Logic would say yes, but no mention of it. I have this very same question myself, for those fed by a central office based DSLAM. However, a point was raised about old and aging wiring from the central office to the neighborhoods. Since most people don't qualify for 7mbps, even though their feed from the central office, due to line distance, I wonder how that wiring is going to allow anything faster?? |
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no_one
@QWEST.NET | reply to azzonie
I do not see VDSL getting this as the bandwidth is used up by the TV. ADSL2 from remote fiber fed terminals or CO based (larger than an outhouse) yes. Qwest does have some very small remote COs. |
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js2318
join:2005-08-02
North Platte, NE
| reply to azzonie
if they starting running fiber to these nodes and do offer up to 20m, thats great. But what about CO based service? The majority of customers are still going to be fed via CO based DSLAMs. Are they going to be upgrade so they to can offer 20m service? Logic would say yes, but no mention of it. |
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just_me
@qwest.net |  reply to azzonie
Q is spending about 300M over the next 2 years tying all of the nodes together with fiber. Will be able to give 20Mbps service to the home. |
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NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA | reply to mdrift
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDSL |
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mdrift
join:2003-08-15
Spokane, WA | reply to NormanS
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADSL |
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NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
 ·Pacific Bell - SBC
| reply to dsl_
said by dsl_ :
can you clarify, you talking fiber to the node correct? Did you mean 7/1m for speed. Isn't the top end for DSL 1m for upload. Or is this ADLS2+?
I can't address how Qwest is doing it; but AT&T is deploying FTTN with VDSL. While AT&T U-Verse is limiting the Internet plan to 6M/1M, that is not a technical limit imposed by VDSL.
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Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
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dsl_
@iauq.com | reply to Mark_in_CO
to Mark_in_ CO
"DSL over fiber installed tomorrow @ 7M/2M for $46/month"
can you clarify, you talking fiber to the node correct? Did you mean 7/1m for speed. Isn't the top end for DSL 1m for upload. Or is this ADLS2+? |
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elister
join:2006-07-17
Seattle, WA
1 edit | reply to azzonie
I sure wish Qwest would upgrade to faster internet speeds.
In Seattle, WA I currently get 7M Down / 934KB UP, I rarely get speeds above 7M and I've got 5 PCs on the network. I need faster upload speeds period!
I like Qwest, like that they didn't cave into the Bush Administration with all these wiretaps. But I don't like their long term plans when it comes to faster internet speeds and possibly HD via IPTV. |
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Mark_in_CO
@Level3.com
| reply to azzonie
I used to live in south Aurora, that area seem to be pretty well fed for DSL, but I am sure there are gray areas too. The impression I got from the sales rep was that they are targeting these gray areas first. i.e. if you can only get 1.5M or no service at all in Denver metro then you will likely get this upgrade over the next 6-12 months. Try calling Qwest to see what their plans are. |
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no_one
@QWEST.NET | reply to azzonie
USAMs are already fiber fed. If upgrades just do the equipment not the fiber. |
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azzonie
join:2004-04-13
Phoenix, AZ
| reply to no_one
said by no_one :Not to the door.  Probably ADSL2 down the street. If you have VDSL probably will stay that way no upgrade. ADSL@ will be for new areas most likely. Plus since copper last mile no 20/20 like ATT. You have that backwards. We have ADSL here now. They have "upgraded" this area to VDSL. ADSL is no longer for sale in this area and will be replaced with VDSL if you make any changes. |
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AthlGrond
Premium,MVM
join:2002-04-25
Aurora, CO
 ·Comcast
| reply to Mark_in_CO
said by Mark_in_CO :
7M/2M for $46/month That's a sweet deal!
(I wonder how widespread that will be. For those who don't know, Arvada isn't anywhere near Aurora.  )
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Mark_in_CO
@Level3.com
| reply to azzonie
They are laying fiber in northwest Denver (Arvada). I am ~15000 ft from the CO and best speed was 1.5M. I am having DSL over fiber installed tomorrow @ 7M/2M for $46/month. I will let you know how it goes. They say they will also be offering Qwest choice TV in about 2 months time. Bye bye Comcast. |
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NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA | reply to no_one
said by no_one :
Plus since copper last mile no 20/20 like ATT.
AT&T has 20/20? What is that?
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Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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