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| Re: If running a business, then email should be own domain ... said by TKJunkMail  :... and when switching ISPs, then there is no issue about forwarding at all. What we don't need is government getting in to the business of deciding how an ISP runs their business on a day to day basis and how they manage email access. Is that an official or unofficial statement of comcast and other affiliated isp
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| Re: If running a business, then email should be own domain ... said by 81399672 :said by TKJunkMail :... and when switching ISPs, then there is no issue about forwarding at all. What we don't need is government getting in to the business of deciding how an ISP runs their business on a day to day basis and how they manage email access. Is that an official or unofficial statement of comcast and other affiliated isp Why not give up on the constant replies to my posts that suggest I work for Comcast or some other provider. As I've said here many times, I NEVER worked for a telecom or cable company and I am now retired. So my opinions are my own and not purchased as you continually imply. But I guess when you have nothing to say that is the best you can do as a form of discourse.
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| Re: If running a business, then email should be own domain ... said by 81399672 :If you do not work for any of them, why are you always defending any and all of them. Be it RIAA, comcast or any other company period. I haven't seen you post against them, it's always to defend them. As result it's clearly demonstrates that you get some type of benefit by posting such comments He has a right to an opinion, same as you do. Just because you don't agree with him doesn't mean he's working for somebody. For what its worth, I usually agree with him in part or in whole as well, and I'm not "working" for anybody. For my part, I simply don't like the idea of running to Washington to solve problems that don't exist. If this lady was so reliant on her AOL e-mail for business, then that's her own fault.
Besides, anybody remember the last time the US Postal Service won any awards for outstanding delivery?
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1 edit | Re: If running a business, then email should be own domain ... said by 81399672 :If you do not work for any of them, why are you always defending any and all of them. Be it RIAA, comcast or any other company period. I haven't seen you post against them, it's always to defend them. As result it's clearly demonstrates that you get some type of benefit by posting such comments Should I assume that you work for a law firm since you are always wanting to take someone to court or sue for damages ?
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| Re: If running a business, then email should be own domain ... said by JSRoman :said by 81399672 :If you do not work for any of them, why are you always defending any and all of them. Be it RIAA, comcast or any other company period. I haven't seen you post against them, it's always to defend them. As result it's clearly demonstrates that you get some type of benefit by posting such comments Should I assume that you work for a law firm since you are always wanting to take someone to court or sue? If you actually read my comments you would see that i do not always say sue or take them to court. Also i say it in general way when i say sue etc, tch is always anit consumer, and pro business etc. | |
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Chicago, IL | Re: If running a business, then email should be own domain ... In my world...all "miffed aol users" shall be treated equal, and have all of the rights granted by the constitution!
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Chicago, IL | Re: If running a business, then email should be own domain ... Whats wrong with being pro-business?
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| Re: If running a business, then email should be own domain ... said by S_engineer :Whats wrong with being pro-business? Nothing!!, except when you are totally pro business and not objective about it | |
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| Re: If running a business, then email should be own domain ... Nothing he said made him non-objective....he made a point about this entitlement attitude that alot of people carry nowadays. There was nothing in his response that should have been deleted or to make him look non-objective.
By censoring his position...who looks non-objective now?
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| said by S_engineer :Whats wrong with being pro-business? pro business = corruption = greed = less power
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Chicago, IL | Re: If running a business, then email should be own domain ... antibusiness=hand outs=socialism=no power
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| Re: If running a business, then email should be own domain ... said by S_engineer :antibusiness=hand outs=socialism=no power you can be anti business and not expect handouts.
Dont know where you got that from.
Do you really equate anti-business to socialism?
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Chicago, IL | Re: If running a business, then email should be own domain ... you can be anti business and not expect handouts.
Dont know where you got that from.
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Chicago, IL | Re: If running a business, then email should be own domain ... And all of this started with a "Miffed AOL user"...geez
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| said by hopeflicker :Do you really equate anti-business to socialism? I would suggest you read "Das Kapital" by Karl Marx, (Capital in English) and then re-evaluate this statement.
It's TOUGH to read though, and very boring.....
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| Re: If running a business, then email should be own domain ... said by maartena :It's TOUGH to read though, and very boring..... I always recommend it. It is best to know your enemy.
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| said by S_engineer :Whats wrong with being pro-business? Because "pro-business" often turns into "anti-consumer". So much of what business wants is not good for the consumer. Supporting that means you would be supporting hurting the consumer.
Sometimes the interests of the consumer and the business are the same, most of the time they are not.
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| Re: If running a business, then email should be own domain ... said by checkthis :said by S_engineer :Whats wrong with being pro-business? Because "pro-business" often turns into "anti-consumer". So much of what business wants is not good for the consumer. Supporting that means you would be supporting hurting the consumer. Sometimes the interests of the consumer and the business are the same, most of the time they are not. Of course, in the case of this article... The consumer is an idiot. ISPs have never forwarded mail and if the so called "business person" in the story had a clue, they would have purchased email hosting with a domain. well said
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ISPs have never forwarded mail and if the so called "business person" in the story had a clue, they would have purchased email hosting with a domain.
I've had ISPs leave my email address active (sometimes for a small "hosting" fee) when I canceled my connectivity account. Since AoL is FREE (you only pay if you want to use them as your connectivity provider) as well as the Email being accessable via WebMail or IMAP (and POP) with SMTP Servers to send email, you can use ANY ISP for connectivity to your AoL Email without needing to use AoL as your connectivity provider (or even use the AoL software in Location=TCP mode). I do not know how her account got canceled.
I also agree that Business related Email should have been handled via a Private Domain ($10/year or less) with under $44/year Hosting (email hosting can be gotten for your private domain in the $10-15/year range I think). | |
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| Re: If running a business, then email should be own domain ... said by RARPSL :said by checkthis :
ISPs have never forwarded mail and if the so called "business person" in the story had a clue, they would have purchased email hosting with a domain.
I've had ISPs leave my email address active (sometimes for a small "hosting" fee) when I canceled my connectivity account. Since AoL is FREE (you only pay if you want to use them as your connectivity provider) as well as the Email being accessable via WebMail or IMAP (and POP) with SMTP Servers to send email, you can use ANY ISP for connectivity to your AoL Email without needing to use AoL as your connectivity provider (or even use the AoL software in Location=TCP mode). I do not know how her account got canceled. I also agree that Business related Email should have been handled via a Private Domain ($10/year or less) with under $44/year Hosting (email hosting can be gotten for your private domain in the $10-15/year range I think). also as a business atleast imo a domain looks a bit more professional. even if you dont have much for a site(ive seen some with just a front page telling what they do and then a contact page with email, snailmail and tel.
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| said by 81399672 :Also i say it in general way when i say sue etc, tch is always anit consumer, and pro business etc. Anti-crime and anti-theft doesn't mean anti-consumer. | |
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| said by 81399672 :said by JSRoman :said by 81399672 :If you do not work for any of them, why are you always defending any and all of them. Be it RIAA, comcast or any other company period. I haven't seen you post against them, it's always to defend them. As result it's clearly demonstrates that you get some type of benefit by posting such comments Should I assume that you work for a law firm since you are always wanting to take someone to court or sue? If you actually read my comments you would see that i do not always say sue or take them to court. Also i say it in general way when i say sue etc, tch is always anit consumer, and pro business etc. And you are always anti-business and pro government intrusion. I have to agree with the others. People around here assume that when you take a stance, you must be in their back pocket. That can't be any further from the truth.
Why take everything into the court or to DC? What happens if I don't like someone's Christmas decorations, should I always run to the government and petition them to stop it?
EVERYONE is not going to always agree - EVER. But, simply because we don't agree doesn't give us the right to sue or petition or legalize/or illegalize everything to get our own way.
In this story at hand, this is a pure example of 1) a possible mistake, 2) poor planning on the part of the AOL customer, 3) see #2.
Personal responsibility is at play here.
ANYONE who says email is the sole conduit for their business is a fool for a business owner. Her email couldn't have been THAT important to her in the first place. How long was it down for? If it's so important, she would have been sitting on that email all day long checking it. When it went down, why didn't she contact AOL?
ANYONE that has ever had AOL knows one thing - if your service is discontinued, all you have to do is simply sign back in and it will ask you to re-activate your account.
How could this person have lost so much revenue? Was it down for days? Then her email couldn't have been that important - I would have had it back up and running quickly. Or, she really doesn't use her email that much, the business is failing and she is looking for another revenue source ...
This story reminds me of the handicap person that goes up and down a street in their wheelchair looking for businesses with out handicap accessible restrooms and then suing them for damages... businesses that they never even patronize in the first place.
Forwarding email is simple... keep the account active for a few months longer and then tell everyone. Why should an ISP have to burden the cost of the forwarding anyway? Most people here should know that there are a lot of wasted resourced on the part of ISPs with user account email boxes sitting at MAX quota because boxes are created, never used, and then fill up taking up disk space.
I agree with TCH - if you are running a business, get a domain and own your own services.. it's under $100 a month AND it is FAR more professional than doing business as "@AOL.COM" , "Yahoo" or "Hotmail" - to which I would NEVER do business with those people anyway.. it tends to lend to their abilities in the first place.
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| said by 81399672 :If you do not work for any of them, why are you always defending any and all of them. Be it RIAA, comcast or any other company period. I haven't seen you post against them, it's always to defend them. As result it's clearly demonstrates that you get some type of benefit by posting such comments He doesn't defend the RIAA, he defends the law.
Government shouldn't be involved in the day to day activities of a company, or of its people. The FCC shouldn't be mandating what an ISP does with an email address of a customer who no longer pays for their service.
If a person is running a business, then they shouldn't be using an @aol.com email, or any ISP email. They should have their own domain. In fact, I would even extend that to everyone; everyone should have their own domain instead of relying on their ISPs email address.
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| Re: If running a business, then email should be own domain ... said by Rob :If a person is running a business, then they shouldn't be using an @aol.com email, I've seen law firms with an @aol.com e-mail address.
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| Re: If running a business, then email should be own domain ... said by Jim Gurd :said by Rob :If a person is running a business, then they shouldn't be using an @aol.com email, I've seen law firms with an @aol.com e-mail address. Scary. It's not uncommon, at least down here, to see @aol or @bellsouth e-mail addresses printed on vans for small businesses. | |
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| said by Jim Gurd :I've seen law firms with an @aol.com e-mail address. I have seen em with a HOTMAIL address. And yes, I skip businesses with hotmail addresses or the likes, and move on to the next google hit.
It just doesn't look professional. And with domain hosting being CHEAP as DIRT, why shouldn't you have your own domain for your business? You probably will have paid for an entire year of hosting if you can reel in just ONE client more. | |
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| said by Jim Gurd :said by Rob :If a person is running a business, then they shouldn't be using an @aol.com email, I've seen law firms with an @aol.com e-mail address. This is true.. but show me one business consultant that will agree with that practice... 
I deal with MANY attorney's and the few that actually do have those addresses want to dump them either because they sparked the right combination of brain cells together, or they finally were told at a business seminar to dump the "service" domain.
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| Re: If running a business, then email should be own domain ... said by TKJunkMail :said by 81399672 :said by TKJunkMail :... and when switching ISPs, then there is no issue about forwarding at all. What we don't need is government getting in to the business of deciding how an ISP runs their business on a day to day basis and how they manage email access. Is that an official or unofficial statement of comcast and other affiliated isp Why not give up on the constant replies to my posts that suggest I work for Comcast or some other provider. As I've said here many times, I NEVER worked for a telecom or cable company and I am now retired. So my opinions are my own and not purchased as you continually imply. But I guess when you have nothing to say that is the best you can do as a form of discourse. I remember the days when I used to be a RIAA shill because I would be for prosecuting people who infringe on copyright. Mainly because I have intellectual property and have seen companies and individuals use it without my permission. This is the same thing. People see you speak up on behalf of a company, and they think you are a shill. *shakes head* | |
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| said by 81399672 :Is that an official or unofficial statement of comcast and other affiliated isp My opinions are currently free, however, I have a standing offer to any business that wishes to compensate me for the purposes of shilling for them.
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