| Great work there now the telecos got another excuse to use. Now the stupid telecos like Qwest & AT&T got a excuse not to layout or plan for any fiber in the future.... They will just keep dragging on about this upcoming thing which may or maynot be able to deliver 250Mbps in real world.
Seriously, when fiber gets mass deployed by some, I was hoping the other telco will see the light and do it as well so that the cost of deploying fiber drops a lot. But, they rather just offer crappy DSL for the rest of their lives while to work to upgrade the copper network to this for another 10 years. |
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | What does it HONESTLY matter HOW you get the speeds so long as you get them? DSL, DOCSIS, FIBER or what ever.. I could care less if they find a way to harness the wings of a hummingbird so long as data flows bi-directional at speeds and latency that can keep up with modern applications and needs.
Flow it through the sewer if they can get 100mb to the home.. I don't care.. and why should you? Fiber is not the end all like people love to think. If DOCSIS can ultimately deliver 1gb or is copper can deliver 250mb.. what does it matter?
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| said by fiberguy:What does it HONESTLY matter HOW you get the speeds so long as you get them? DSL, DOCSIS, FIBER or what ever.. I could care less if they find a way to harness the wings of a hummingbird so long as data flows bi-directional at speeds and latency that can keep up with modern applications and needs. Flow it through the sewer if they can get 100mb to the home.. I don't care.. and why should you? Fiber is not the end all like people love to think. If DOCSIS can ultimately deliver 1gb or is copper can deliver 250mb.. what does it matter? Exactly. As far as I'm concerned, if I can get 1 Gb/S for $10 a month through twine, I'll take it, and recommend it to everyone I know (this, of course, being an exaggeration, but you get the idea). |
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Actually it does matter. copper has a way high latency compare to fiber. im 8000 ft from the dsl co. im getting 8 ms on that. fiber would be alot lower. yes i know what ur saying 8 ms isnt much. well for gaming every ms counts. and honestly i love my 1.5 meg dsl line i just want fatser pings. even if u had a 200 meg line u wouldnt dl that fast anyway. the providers of content cant give it to u that quick. |
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join:2006-05-14
San Antonio, TX | Rule of thumb is latency delay over copper is 2/3 the speed of light. Latecy of fiber is 3/4 the speed of light.
There is no real difference in the latecy delay on either medium when the bits are only traveling 8000 feet.
If there is a significant difference between the two, it is because of the electronics on the ends of the wires, not the transport medium. |
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | reply to bandit8623
I'm pretty verse on lines and gaming and ping, etc...
but.. um, 8ms? on DSL? Is that a typo? |
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1 edit | said by fiberguy:I'm pretty verse on lines and gaming and ping, etc... but.. um, 8ms? on DSL? Is that a typo? Fast path..
Pinging www.linx.net [195.66.232.53] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 195.66.232.53: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=60
Reply from 195.66.232.53: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=60
Reply from 195.66.232.53: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=60
Reply from 195.66.232.53: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=60
Ping statistics for 195.66.232.53:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 6ms, Maximum = 7ms, Average = 6ms
Tracing route to www.linx.net [195.66.232.53]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 55 ms 99 ms 99 ms BeBox.config [192.168.1.254]
2 8 ms 7 ms 8 ms 87-194-12-1.bethere.co.uk [87.194.12.1]
3 142 ms 243 ms 24 ms bundle-2.er10.thlon.ov.easynet.net [195.66.224.43]
4 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms ge1-1-0.er3.thlon.uk.easynet.net [89.200.130.2]
5 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms ip-217-204-60-113.easynet.co.uk [217.204.60.113]
6 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms g0-0-124.tr2.tfm7.thn.linx.net [217.204.61.134]
7 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms ivory.linx.net [195.66.232.53]
Trace complete.
Modulation: G.992.5 Annex A
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 1,304 / 21,499
EDIT: Linx = London Internet Exchange, which is spread across a few physical sites in London. My gaming ping to servers hosted on the exchange is between 6 and 8ms depending on the game. |
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