ptrowski
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clubs: | That's just wrong..... I can understand "in theory" why they would want the money, but come on, that's just freaking wrong on so many levels. | |
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Corona
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Aubrey, TX | Re: That's just wrong..... Sucks to go through it, but in theory, wouldn't homeowners insurance cover things like this? | |
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Cortland, IL | Re: That's just wrong..... I'm sure it would, so they'll eventually get reimburse for it, but until then, they want their money right away so they have to fork it over.
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TKJunkMail
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| Re: That's just wrong..... said by N3OGH  :said by Corona :Sucks to go through it, but in theory, wouldn't homeowners insurance cover things like this? Sure but between the time AT&T and Dish want their cash, and the time the home owner gets a settlement check for the $300, she/he's out the $300. The houses being burnt down are worth millions. They can afford to pay the bill.
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| Re: That's just wrong..... said by TKJunkMail :The houses being burnt down are worth millions. They can afford to pay the bill. You know this how?
Shouldn't matter what that house costs since cost of living is different all over the country. While that same house may cost $250,000 where I live, it may cost more where they live but their pay will reflect that too. | |
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USA | Re: That's just wrong..... From experience...
The pay will not neccesarily reflect that. | |
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| Re: That's just wrong..... said by jjeffeory :From experience... The pay will not necessarily reflect that. So you know what houses cost just by the large area they are in? 
Unless someone shows me the address and the records of house sales on the same street, you can't tell me how much a house is worth just by looking at it or its location. | |
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en102
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| Re: That's just wrong..... As a resident of SoCal, you'll be hard pressed to find even a piece of vacant land to build on worth less than $250,000.
On the other side, just because the house may be worth +$500,000, (most in SoCal are), doesn't mean that
A) People are rich (many spend +1 income just to pay mortgage and taxes)
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| Re: That's just wrong..... One reason people scrap for a home in a semi affluent area is for an investment. I live in a nice area and I'm far from rich. Tack on my kids pending college tuition and you could consider me broke!~
The death Star wants the money...fine...send it to them in pennies and cancel your account!
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| said by moonpuppy :Unless someone shows me the address and the records of house sales on the same street, you can't tell me how much a house is worth just by looking at it or its location. Reminds me of the houses on Venice Beach. The houses themselves look very "rustic" (ie. shithouses riding bare minimum up to code), but the property they sit on is worth millions. | |
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en102
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Valencia, CA | Re: That's just wrong..... I tend to agree... the homes here aren't worth anything (except contractors that want to add on will charge a boat load of $$$ for any change).
Marina Del Ray has VERY nice condos.
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| Re: That's just wrong..... said by en102 :I tend to agree... the homes here aren't worth anything (except contractors that want to add on will charge a boat load of $$$ for any change). Oh, but of course. With property values like those on the beachfront, contractors KNOW residents can afford to pay through the nose. I'm sure the city also tacks on a nice hefty tax/fee wherever they can for home remodeling. | |
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| Yeah, you can certainly know what a house is worth just by knowing what area its in.
I can say with a pretty good degree of certainty that any house in, say, Tokyo, no matter how small, is probably worth nearly a million dollars.
I can also tell you that those numbers are completely relative, and just because your house is worth a million doesn't mean you have a millionaire lifestyle. A million dollars is a lot more money if you live in Houston than if you live in NYC or LA. If I had to, I could probably find an $80,000 house here in the Houston area that I'd be happy to live in. I don't think I could find a cardboard box on a piece of lawn in all of Southern California for that amount of money.
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| Re: That's just wrong..... said by ptrowski :Wow, really? I did not know fire only target high end homes. Oh wait, it doesn't. But wildfires start in the hills, where the most expensive homes tend to be. | |
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2 edits | said by TKJunkMail :said by N3OGH :said by Corona :Sucks to go through it, but in theory, wouldn't homeowners insurance cover things like this? Sure but between the time AT&T and Dish want their cash, and the time the home owner gets a settlement check for the $300, she/he's out the $300. The houses being burnt down are worth millions. They can afford to pay the bill. At&t has BILLIONS of $ they can wait a few weeks for the insurance company to give them $300 | |
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yock
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| said by TKJunkMail :said by N3OGH :said by Corona :Sucks to go through it, but in theory, wouldn't homeowners insurance cover things like this? Sure but between the time AT&T and Dish want their cash, and the time the home owner gets a settlement check for the $300, she/he's out the $300. The houses being burnt down are worth millions. They can afford to pay the bill. That shouldn't even factor into the equation. AT&T can wait, like all of their other debtors and leinholders, for homeowner's insurance to indemnify the policyholders. | |
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Corona
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Aubrey, TX | Re: That's just wrong..... WTH does New Jersey have to do with this? | |
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| Re: That's just wrong..... Immaterial. Every state has aspects that are not favorable, whether they're envionmental, economic, political, or social. We are just paying the price of the economic growth that benefited the entire country.
There's still beautiful places and people here. It's a great place to live, and I'm just tired of it being considered some sort of joke state by people who've never lived here.
~stepping off soapbox~
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| said by Transmaster :This doesn't sound like the Dish Network (DN) I know. This isn't DN. This is AT&T's bundled Dish deal. If they had service thru DN, this wouldn't even be a problem. In fact when I moved years ago Dish Network let me use DishMover and suspended (IE I didn't pay to turn off or turn back on, but was not billed for a couple of months) my service while I got situated and then reinstalled. I think I paid em a $5 a month just to keep my grandfathered East West Network feeds up, because if you turned em off you couldn't get them back.)
This is purely AT&T for ya... and a sign of how DN will be in the future if the rumored buyout does happen, most likely.
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| said by TKJunkMail :said by N3OGH :said by Corona :Sucks to go through it, but in theory, wouldn't homeowners insurance cover things like this? Sure but between the time AT&T and Dish want their cash, and the time the home owner gets a settlement check for the $300, she/he's out the $300. The houses being burnt down are worth millions. They can afford to pay the bill. Now that's an ignorant, ill-informed, stupid statement. Congrats.
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Henderson, NV | "The houses being burnt down are worth millions. They can afford to pay the bill."
Insurance doesn't pay the "worth" of the house it pays the cost to rebuild it and replace the items in it. | |
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bjl
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Newport Beach, CA | Re: That's just wrong..... If you're lucky. | |
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GlobalMind
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1 edit | said by TKJunkMail :said by N3OGH :said by Corona :Sucks to go through it, but in theory, wouldn't homeowners insurance cover things like this? Sure but between the time AT&T and Dish want their cash, and the time the home owner gets a settlement check for the $300, she/he's out the $300. The houses being burnt down are worth millions. They can afford to pay the bill. Thanks, but really that's not the point. I could probably pay the bill too if my home were destroyed by wildfire or in my case, hurricane.
It wouldn't change the fact that it is purely bad form to do business this way as the "corporate citizen."
AT&T / Dish make billions of dollars a year. They can afford the write-off. | |
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| Re: That's just wrong..... said by GlobalMind :It wouldn't change the fact that it is purely bad form to do business this way as the "corporate citizen." AT&T / Dish make billions of dollars a year. They can afford the write-off. And that's the perfect response to TKJunkMail 's post. | |
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Deckoh
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San Diego, CA | quote:
The houses being burnt down are worth millions. They can afford to pay the bill.
Now thats just a dumb comment. Better yet stupid! | |
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Cheese
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| said by TKJunkMail :said by N3OGH :said by Corona :Sucks to go through it, but in theory, wouldn't homeowners insurance cover things like this? Sure but between the time AT&T and Dish want their cash, and the time the home owner gets a settlement check for the $300, she/he's out the $300. The houses being burnt down are worth millions. They can afford to pay the bill. I am pretty sure not all of the houses are worth millions | |
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| How do you know these houses are worth millions? My aunt's house in Running Springs burnt down, a small cabin worth maybe $150,000 and DISH Network wants $600 for the receivers in her livingroom and the one in my grandmother's room. They are not wealthy people. Far too many generalizations about people in CA are being made. | |
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Oleg
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2 edits | said by TKJunkMail :said by N3OGH :said by Corona :Sucks to go through it, but in theory, wouldn't homeowners insurance cover things like this? Sure but between the time AT&T and Dish want their cash, and the time the home owner gets a settlement check for the $300, she/he's out the $300. The houses being burnt down are worth millions. They can afford to pay the bill. I am sure AT&T and Dish Network makes more money than any average person makes,but i could be wrong | |
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| said by N3OGH :said by Corona :Sucks to go through it, but in theory, wouldn't homeowners insurance cover things like this? Sure but between the time AT&T and Dish want their cash, and the time the home owner gets a settlement check for the $300, she/he's out the $300. So instead of buying some replacement clothes, or a few nights in a motel room, they're stuck paying this garbage bill. AT&T are going to get some seriously bad press out of this, and sure they'll rescind the fee, but that's not the point. Just more proof AT&T totally sucks the root. At least now I know to stay away from Dish network as well. What a bunch of ass hats... I wonder now, Why would AT&T want the Dish Network box back? I mean last I looked Dish Network is still owned by Echostar and AT&T hasn't bought either one of them as of yet. But then I own My HD Dish Network box outright, Although one time a rep from Dish Network did try and say that they owned It, Until I objected as I had a receipt from when I bought the box online, Then Dish looked It up and said I was right and apologized.
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Callahan, FL | Yes, it should. If they owned the equipment it wouldn't be a problem.
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Cedar Park, TX | Actually I wonder if hazard insurance would cover it or not since the policy holder doesn't actually own the equipment. | |
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yock
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| Re: That's just wrong..... said by Enlightener :Actually I wonder if hazard insurance would cover it or not since the policy holder doesn't actually own the equipment. Since the box is a leased item and under the custodian of the homeowner, contents coverage should pay for the box. | |
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yock
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| Re: That's just wrong..... said by TKJunkMail :said by Enlightener :Actually I wonder if hazard insurance would cover it or not since the policy holder doesn't actually own the equipment. Probably no insurance covers it. Homeowners won't cover rented equipment. And AT&T is, like most large corporations, self-insured up to about 100's of millions to a billion dollars. So, if the people don't pay, AT&T eats the loss. I did some research, and I don't believe you are correct. Check your homeowner's policy under Coverage C. There might very well be a provision in it to cover the property of others while it is on your premises. I found a specific example, but I'm reluctant to share my employer's proprietary information. | |
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| Re: That's just wrong..... correct, my policy covers item that are on my property that I do not own. This of course is up a certain amount.
I think this certainly doesen't improve the PR battle with ATT. This is as pimpy as a business can come!
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Chicago, IL | I'll bet it cost them more than $300 in bad publicity...
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tpac_man
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| I'M MORE THEN SURE THIS IS NOT POLICY WITH ATT. I'M NOT SAYING THIS BECAUSE I LIKE ATT, BUT BECAUSE ATT HAS A BUNCH OF IDIOTS IN INDIA WHO DON'T KNOW ANYTHING. I'M SURE THAT THE REPRESENTATIVE THEY TALKED TO WAS IN INDIA. IF I WAS TO CALL ATT NOW AND SPEAK WITH SOMEONE IN THE U.S, IM SURE THIS WOULD NOT BE THE CASE. LETS HOPE! | |
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Beacon, NY | Re: That's just wrong..... Please turn off your caps lock. | |
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ptrowski
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clubs: | Caps lock, turn it off. Freaking annoying.
At least the people I correspond with in India know to turn off their Caps Lock. | |
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USA | ATT IS NOTHING BUT GREEDY BASTARDS!!!!
THEY DONT GIVE A FUCK WHAT SOMEONE HAS BEEN THRU AS LONG AS THEY GET THIER MONEY TO LINE THIER DEEP POCKETS WITH....
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| Re: That's just wrong..... said by Dude111 :ATT IS NOTHING BUT GREEDY BASTARDS!!!! THEY DONT GIVE A FUCK WHAT SOMEONE HAS BEEN THRU AS LONG AS THEY GET THIER MONEY TO LINE THIER DEEP POCKETS WITH.... UNREAL....... Dear Dude111,
Learn how to type without the Caps Lock button on or don't type at all.
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| this will never fly, now that its in the media AT&T wont bill them for the box. $300 dollars is a far better loss then bad PR, as Dish is an optional provider for TV. while AT&T isnt for your phone in most areas.
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