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Tsume

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reply to TKJunkMail
Re: That's just wrong.....

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by N3OGH See Profile :

said by Corona See Profile :

Sucks to go through it, but in theory, wouldn't homeowners insurance cover things like this?
Sure but between the time AT&T and Dish want their cash, and the time the home owner gets a settlement check for the $300, she/he's out the $300.
The houses being burnt down are worth millions. They can afford to pay the bill.
I disagree. Most if not all people around here are barely able to afford their homes, so they barely scrape by in the other parts of their lives. Just because the house is worth millions, doesn't mean they are millionaires. The wages here are probably the lowest in the US relative to the cost of living.


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Caps lock, turn it off. Freaking annoying.

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TKJunkMail
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said by Enlightener See Profile :

Actually I wonder if hazard insurance would cover it or not since the policy holder doesn't actually own the equipment.
Probably no insurance covers it. Homeowners won't cover rented equipment. And AT&T is, like most large corporations, self-insured up to about 100's of millions to a billion dollars. So, if the people don't pay, AT&T eats the loss.
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eric89074

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reply to TKJunkMail
"The houses being burnt down are worth millions. They can afford to pay the bill."

Insurance doesn't pay the "worth" of the house it pays the cost to rebuild it and replace the items in it.


yock
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reply to TKJunkMail
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by Enlightener See Profile :

Actually I wonder if hazard insurance would cover it or not since the policy holder doesn't actually own the equipment.
Probably no insurance covers it. Homeowners won't cover rented equipment. And AT&T is, like most large corporations, self-insured up to about 100's of millions to a billion dollars. So, if the people don't pay, AT&T eats the loss.
I did some research, and I don't believe you are correct. Check your homeowner's policy under Coverage C. There might very well be a provision in it to cover the property of others while it is on your premises. I found a specific example, but I'm reluctant to share my employer's proprietary information.


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reply to TKJunkMail
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by N3OGH See Profile :

said by Corona See Profile :

Sucks to go through it, but in theory, wouldn't homeowners insurance cover things like this?
Sure but between the time AT&T and Dish want their cash, and the time the home owner gets a settlement check for the $300, she/he's out the $300.
The houses being burnt down are worth millions. They can afford to pay the bill.
Thanks, but really that's not the point. I could probably pay the bill too if my home were destroyed by wildfire or in my case, hurricane.

It wouldn't change the fact that it is purely bad form to do business this way as the "corporate citizen."

AT&T / Dish make billions of dollars a year. They can afford the write-off.

jjeffeory

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reply to moonpuppy
From experience...

The pay will not neccesarily reflect that.

jjeffeory

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reply to Transmaster
I was in Katrina. Charter cable sent us bills for months that their cable lines were down. I don't know what Cox did, but Charter didn't help too much.


Deckoh
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reply to TKJunkMail
quote:
The houses being burnt down are worth millions. They can afford to pay the bill.
Now thats just a dumb comment. Better yet stupid!

Thaler
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reply to GlobalMind
said by GlobalMind See Profile :

It wouldn't change the fact that it is purely bad form to do business this way as the "corporate citizen."

AT&T / Dish make billions of dollars a year. They can afford the write-off.
And that's the perfect response to TKJunkMail See Profile's post.

moonpuppy

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said by jjeffeory See Profile :

From experience...

The pay will not necessarily reflect that.
So you know what houses cost just by the large area they are in?

Unless someone shows me the address and the records of house sales on the same street, you can't tell me how much a house is worth just by looking at it or its location.


en102
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As a resident of SoCal, you'll be hard pressed to find even a piece of vacant land to build on worth less than $250,000.

On the other side, just because the house may be worth +$500,000, (most in SoCal are), doesn't mean that

A) People are rich (many spend +1 income just to pay mortgage and taxes)
B) They have money. Some may have bought the house back in the 90's or earlier for --
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S_engineer

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reply to yock
correct, my policy covers item that are on my property that I do not own. This of course is up a certain amount.

I think this certainly doesen't improve the PR battle with ATT. This is as pimpy as a business can come!
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S_engineer

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reply to en102
One reason people scrap for a home in a semi affluent area is for an investment. I live in a nice area and I'm far from rich. Tack on my kids pending college tuition and you could consider me broke!~

The death Star wants the money...fine...send it to them in pennies and cancel your account!
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reply to DownTheShore
Way OT, but it's a state that has more Superfund cleanup sites than any other.

»www.epa.gov/superfund/sites/npl/npl.htm
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Thaler
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said by moonpuppy See Profile :

Unless someone shows me the address and the records of house sales on the same street, you can't tell me how much a house is worth just by looking at it or its location.
Reminds me of the houses on Venice Beach. The houses themselves look very "rustic" (ie. shithouses riding bare minimum up to code), but the property they sit on is worth millions.


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reply to N3OGH
said by N3OGH See Profile :

said by Corona See Profile :

Sucks to go through it, but in theory, wouldn't homeowners insurance cover things like this?
Sure but between the time AT&T and Dish want their cash, and the time the home owner gets a settlement check for the $300, she/he's out the $300.

So instead of buying some replacement clothes, or a few nights in a motel room, they're stuck paying this garbage bill.

AT&T are going to get some seriously bad press out of this, and sure they'll rescind the fee, but that's not the point.

Just more proof AT&T totally sucks the root.

At least now I know to stay away from Dish network as well.

What a bunch of ass hats...
I wonder now, Why would AT&T want the Dish Network box back? I mean last I looked Dish Network is still owned by Echostar and AT&T hasn't bought either one of them as of yet. But then I own My HD Dish Network box outright, Although one time a rep from Dish Network did try and say that they owned It, Until I objected as I had a receipt from when I bought the box online, Then Dish looked It up and said I was right and apologized.
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Dude111
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reply to ptrowski
ATT IS NOTHING BUT GREEDY BASTARDS!!!!

THEY DONT GIVE A FUCK WHAT SOMEONE HAS BEEN THRU AS LONG AS THEY GET THIER MONEY TO LINE THIER DEEP POCKETS WITH....

UNREAL.......

emptywig
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reply to moonpuppy
Yeah, you can certainly know what a house is worth just by knowing what area its in.

I can say with a pretty good degree of certainty that any house in, say, Tokyo, no matter how small, is probably worth nearly a million dollars.

I can also tell you that those numbers are completely relative, and just because your house is worth a million doesn't mean you have a millionaire lifestyle. A million dollars is a lot more money if you live in Houston than if you live in NYC or LA. If I had to, I could probably find an $80,000 house here in the Houston area that I'd be happy to live in. I don't think I could find a cardboard box on a piece of lawn in all of Southern California for that amount of money.

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said by Dude111 See Profile :

ATT IS NOTHING BUT GREEDY BASTARDS!!!!

THEY DONT GIVE A FUCK WHAT SOMEONE HAS BEEN THRU AS LONG AS THEY GET THIER MONEY TO LINE THIER DEEP POCKETS WITH....

UNREAL.......
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