KrK
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Re: That's just wrong.....
said by Transmaster  :This doesn't sound like the Dish Network (DN) I know. This isn't DN. This is AT&T's bundled Dish deal. If they had service thru DN, this wouldn't even be a problem. In fact when I moved years ago Dish Network let me use DishMover and suspended (IE I didn't pay to turn off or turn back on, but was not billed for a couple of months) my service while I got situated and then reinstalled. I think I paid em a $5 a month just to keep my grandfathered East West Network feeds up, because if you turned em off you couldn't get them back.)
This is purely AT&T for ya... and a sign of how DN will be in the future if the rumored buyout does happen, most likely.
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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said by TKJunkMail :The houses being burnt down are worth millions. They can afford to pay the bill. They have mortgages payments of multiple thousands a month. They still have to pay while fighting with insurance companies.
Maybe some can afford to pay, but I'm betting a lot can't. Especially as their cash is needed for temporary housing and so on atm.
Really it's of little point to the issue.
I mean your statement is no different then someone saying:
"AT&T is worth billions. Screw 'em. They can afford it." now isn't it?
Just depends who you feel sorry for more, I guess.
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DownTheShore
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said by Transmaster :Beautiful compared with Wyoming or Colorado, I don't think so. But you do have some really cool places to eat.  Nothing out here compares to the vistas you folks have there - we just don't have those mountains or vast tracks of undeveloped land for that kind of classic landscape imagery. But there's a lot of quiet beauty here, if one looks beyond the Turnpike. 
NJ is a smörgåsbord of eateries. 
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Oleg
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2 edits | reply to TKJunkMail
said by TKJunkMail :said by N3OGH :said by Corona :Sucks to go through it, but in theory, wouldn't homeowners insurance cover things like this? Sure but between the time AT&T and Dish want their cash, and the time the home owner gets a settlement check for the $300, she/he's out the $300. The houses being burnt down are worth millions. They can afford to pay the bill. I am sure AT&T and Dish Network makes more money than any average person makes,but i could be wrong  |
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bjl
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Newport Beach, CA | reply to eric89074
If you're lucky. |
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ptrowski
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said by quatrix :said by ptrowski :Wow, really? I did not know fire only target high end homes. Oh wait, it doesn't. But wildfires start in the hills, where the most expensive homes tend to be. Being started by an arsonist, it started in the opportune area. |
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Depends on the insurance. Some policies may only pay for the rebuilding of the house and not the contents. Does this come under act of God? Sometimes, they don't pay for those... |
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quatrix
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said by ptrowski :Wow, really? I did not know fire only target high end homes. Oh wait, it doesn't. But wildfires start in the hills, where the most expensive homes tend to be. |
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Transmaster
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said by DownTheShore :Just another gratuitous swipe at a lovely state.  Beautiful compared with Wyoming or Colorado, I don't think so. But you do have some really cool places to eat.
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Thaler
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said by en102 :I tend to agree... the homes here aren't worth anything (except contractors that want to add on will charge a boat load of $$$ for any change). Oh, but of course. With property values like those on the beachfront, contractors KNOW residents can afford to pay through the nose. I'm sure the city also tacks on a nice hefty tax/fee wherever they can for home remodeling. |
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tma
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How do you know these houses are worth millions? My aunt's house in Running Springs burnt down, a small cabin worth maybe $150,000 and DISH Network wants $600 for the receivers in her livingroom and the one in my grandmother's room. They are not wealthy people. Far too many generalizations about people in CA are being made. |
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supergirl
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Pensacola, FL | reply to Transmaster
New Jersey is just a suburb of NY. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
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Valencia, CA | reply to Thaler
I tend to agree... the homes here aren't worth anything (except contractors that want to add on will charge a boat load of $$$ for any change).
Marina Del Ray has VERY nice condos.
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Cheese
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Re: That's just wrong.....
said by TKJunkMail :said by N3OGH :said by Corona :Sucks to go through it, but in theory, wouldn't homeowners insurance cover things like this? Sure but between the time AT&T and Dish want their cash, and the time the home owner gets a settlement check for the $300, she/he's out the $300. The houses being burnt down are worth millions. They can afford to pay the bill. I am pretty sure not all of the houses are worth millions |
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DownTheShore
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Immaterial. Every state has aspects that are not favorable, whether they're envionmental, economic, political, or social. We are just paying the price of the economic growth that benefited the entire country.
There's still beautiful places and people here. It's a great place to live, and I'm just tired of it being considered some sort of joke state by people who've never lived here.
~stepping off soapbox~
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emptywig
Huh? What?
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Yeah, you can certainly know what a house is worth just by knowing what area its in.
I can say with a pretty good degree of certainty that any house in, say, Tokyo, no matter how small, is probably worth nearly a million dollars.
I can also tell you that those numbers are completely relative, and just because your house is worth a million doesn't mean you have a millionaire lifestyle. A million dollars is a lot more money if you live in Houston than if you live in NYC or LA. If I had to, I could probably find an $80,000 house here in the Houston area that I'd be happy to live in. I don't think I could find a cardboard box on a piece of lawn in all of Southern California for that amount of money.
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SuperJoker
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said by N3OGH :said by Corona :Sucks to go through it, but in theory, wouldn't homeowners insurance cover things like this? Sure but between the time AT&T and Dish want their cash, and the time the home owner gets a settlement check for the $300, she/he's out the $300. So instead of buying some replacement clothes, or a few nights in a motel room, they're stuck paying this garbage bill. AT&T are going to get some seriously bad press out of this, and sure they'll rescind the fee, but that's not the point. Just more proof AT&T totally sucks the root. At least now I know to stay away from Dish network as well. What a bunch of ass hats... I wonder now, Why would AT&T want the Dish Network box back? I mean last I looked Dish Network is still owned by Echostar and AT&T hasn't bought either one of them as of yet. But then I own My HD Dish Network box outright, Although one time a rep from Dish Network did try and say that they owned It, Until I objected as I had a receipt from when I bought the box online, Then Dish looked It up and said I was right and apologized.
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Thaler
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said by moonpuppy :Unless someone shows me the address and the records of house sales on the same street, you can't tell me how much a house is worth just by looking at it or its location. Reminds me of the houses on Venice Beach. The houses themselves look very "rustic" (ie. shithouses riding bare minimum up to code), but the property they sit on is worth millions. |
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bent
not broken
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Way OT, but it's a state that has more Superfund cleanup sites than any other.
»www.epa.gov/superfund/sites/npl/npl.htm
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