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jdir

join:2001-05-04
Santa Clara, CA

WiMAX - is this another ISDN

Lots of hype, lots of talk, and so far - where can one get the base station or receiver in silicon valley

garmst

join:2000-09-17
New York, NY

ISDN was quite nice in its time, when the phone company figured out how to install it residentially.

You don't need a base station for WiMAX, just a reciever.



quetwo
That VoIP Guy
Premium
join:2004-09-04
East Lansing, MI

reply to jdir
ISDN is still significnetly better technology than whatever else is out there in the United States. The unfortunate problem is that the phone companies saw it as that and got greedy. When they made it too expensive, nobody adpoted it.

If you go to other parts of the world, such as Europe, everybody as ISDN. Hell, even my grandmother had ISDN, with two bonded channels for data 6 years ago. She had no idea what it was, but DT told her that she could be on the phone and internet at once. i think she paid under 50 euros a month for it.

In Europe, you often see DSL over ISDN, with much larger download and upload rates.



gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall

join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA

reply to garmst

said by garmst:

ISDN was quite nice in its time, when the phone company figured out how to install it residentially.

You don't need a base station for WiMAX, just a reciever.
Why not? I can think of a gazillion uses for it right now.
Have all my home wireless appliances accessable from 30 miles.
Video conferences with customers without going through an exchange.
Close to instant communications with friends and relatives.
The whole town where I live is only 15 miles across, so wimax just about covers it double over.
--
‘Do ye, quieting in your bosoms your strong hearts,
Who of many good things have had your fill even to surfeit,
With what is moderate nourish your mighty desire; for neither will
We yield, nor shall you have all else as you wish.’
Solon


gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall

join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA

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reply to quetwo
I had ISDN, you could get 64k, when you bonded the 2 channels for the full 128k.
It took a few weeks to get installed (pacbell engineers had to be talked into(reference cavemen and living in the dark ages) doing the install, they said it was too far(dirty lines)) but once it was working it was great, till they started double billing me and charging outrageous amounts for going over, charged by the minute.
I also remember they wanted to charge me full for the 3 weeks I didnt have any service, including a phone.

Then they killed ISDN by coming out with DSL for 100$ cheaper.


jdir

join:2001-05-04
Santa Clara, CA

reply to garmst
No base station? what the hell, I want to transmit and start my gaming network. There goes WiMAX


jdir

join:2001-05-04
Santa Clara, CA

reply to gaforces
OO wow - 128Kbits !! with that speed, it take a week to download the latest Linux ISO CDs. Wooohooo!! 128Kbits... man, and those Korean/Japan ISP are offering 10Mbits for $19.95 or less?


cmaenginsb
Premium
join:2001-03-19
Palmdale, CA

reply to jdir
Actually check out Aperto Networks, based in the silicon valley. They build the stuff.


wvcaver
Premium
join:2005-04-17
Millersburg, OH

reply to gaforces
ISDN is dial up on steroids



gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall

join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA

reply to jdir

said by jdir:

No base station? what the hell, I want to transmit and start my gaming network. There goes WiMAX
Yes, and my dreams of wimax across the world are dashed ...
Wimax should be just like wireless with more range, the usefullness of this tech is being crushed by greed and security paranoia.


LilYoda
Feline with squirel personality disorder
Premium
join:2004-09-02
Mountains

reply to jdir
Most useless post of the week...

At the time ISDN was out, it was the fastest speed you could get on a residential access... We're talking 10 to 15 years ago here... DSL did not even exist, much less the current FTTH or FTTN projects.

And YES, at the time, it took me weeks to download the 50 floppies it took to install Slackware Linux 0.99pl13.
--
"Money and sex, storage and bandwidth: only too much is ever enough"
Arno Penzias - Former Head of Bell Labs, and Nobel prizewinner


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