Re: I hope they don't mess this up in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19338440 en Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:08:26 EDT Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:08:26 EDT Re: I hope they don't mess this up http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19341599 jester121 : Yeah, right.

It's sad that I actually miss Karl's ultra-left views when he's on vacation and leaves KathrynV in charge. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19341599 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:23:09 EDT Re: I hope they don't mess this up http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19339795 Thaler :
said by supergirl See Profile :

OMG! BBReports used an actual news source! Amazing! The AP on Yahoo. But, as usual, slanted reporting.
They certainly do quote news sources, and a long history of doing just that. However, that fact gets lost on those who don't read.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19339795 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:02:51 EDT Re: I hope they don't mess this up http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19339300 supergirl : OMG! BBReports used an actual news source! Amazing! The AP on Yahoo. But, as usual, slanted reporting.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19339300 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:18:38 EDT Re: I hope they don't mess this up http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19338678 Ulmo :
Many of us have either demonized or sainted government and private enterprise, depending on political outlook. One needs to realize they are symbiotic and need each other to flourish. The difficulty is determining where to locate that boundary.
Your whole post is correct and well written. Thank you.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19338678 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:56:21 EDT Re: I hope they don't mess this up http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19338671 Ulmo :
said by anticapitalism :

If the government doesn't step in, who will? We need to have more government involvement with issues that involve the people. Enough with the "less government" bs that worked to get us to this point.
The government has become most of our problems. The government is there to stay outside the sidelines watching in, then when something goes wrong, to continue to stay out watching in to make sure that it self-heals eventually, but that if it does not self-heal (i.e., dies off or grows up), then the government must step in TEMPORARILY to keep our society civil and high class, adjusting things LIGHTLY until it has finished righting the course, and BEFORE it has even finished getting fixed, it should WITHDRAW, stay on the sidelines until it is sure that it is not needed to fix its own mess, then get out of the way again, outside the sidelines, watching in, as needed. "WATCHING IN" is us the people who then activate the government, not NSA and BIG BROTHER watching us.

What we need is less government. Other forums have ample examples of how it has become the source of most our problems. E.g., with our economy, energy, and environment, government forbids nuclear power. Instead it ought to be temporarily kick-starting it!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19338671 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:53:51 EDT Re: I hope they don't mess this up http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19338582 tschmidt :
said by anticapitalism :

If the government doesn't step in, who will? We need to have more government involvement with issues that involve the people.
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Almost always the gov't being involved is a very bad thing.
We need to step back and evaluate which activities are best left to private enterprise and which are best performed by government as a public good. One only has to look at country’s where government had broken down to see the negative impact on citizenry and private enterprise.

To cite a few examples.

The Interstate highway system created a much-improved surface transportation infrastructure. Private companies are able to exploit that infrastructure to deliver a variety of services that would not be possible if it did not exist.

The Internet is another excellent example of government developing a new technology, which was initially dismissed by private enterprise. Once the technology is sufficiently developed entrepreneurs figured out creative ways to exploit it. Such as this site and the interesting discussion we are having.

Air Transport is another example of private/public partnership. Government provides airports and air control system as a public infrastructure allowing private airlines to deliver services to customers.

Lastly much in the way of medical discoveries are initiated by the public sector. It is true private enterprise spends huge sums of research money but that is mainly product development not pure scientific research.

We need to examine the Internet in the same light. Are there areas where competition does not exist or where a few dominant players’ wield stranglehold on how network is utilized? In that case it is appropriate for government to set in and set standards designed to maximize public good.

In other areas where strong competition exists and barriers to entry are low government should stay out, other then regulations pertaining to good business practices, such as accounting and fairness in advertising.

Many of us have either demonized or sainted government and private enterprise, depending on political outlook. One needs to realize they are symbiotic and need each other to flourish. The difficulty is determining where to locate that boundary.

/tom ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19338582 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:37:23 EDT Re: I hope they don't mess this up http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19338522 wdoa : yeah that's right we should let corporations, especially in oligarchies basically due as they please and have their "customers" constantly being asked to bend over and grab their ankles. No more than ever we need a government to regulate corporations because without doing so, most citizens will get screwed over, while a very small percentage will end up with all the cash and the power. A country that has a huge discrepency betweeen the have and have nots is doomed to failure. A country needs a balance between capitalism and government regulation.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19338522 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:25:32 EDT Re: I hope they don't mess this up http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19338497 firephoto : The name changes only when his side loses or sticks things where they don't belong. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19338497 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:19:04 EDT Re: I hope they don't mess this up http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19338440 TKJunkMail :
said by anticapitalism :

If the government doesn't step in, who will? We need to have more government involvement with issues that involve the people. Enough with the "less government" bs that worked to get us to this point.
I think the name you chose to post with says it all - "anticapitalism". But you need a couple of aliases besides - socialism and fascism.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19338440 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:03:37 EDT Re: I hope they don't mess this up http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19338397 openbox9 : Yep. Get ready for even higher prices if the government levies additional regulation on this country's ISPs.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19338397 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:54:06 EDT Re: I hope they don't mess this up http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19338382 anon : If the government doesn't step in, who will? We need to have more government involvement with issues that involve the people. Enough with the "less government" bs that worked to get us to this point. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19338382 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:52:23 EDT Re: I hope they don't mess this up http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19338347 Maddogmike : i agree with you on that, but giving these companies free reign is also a bad thing. if the gov't gets involved, hopefully they don't fuck it up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19338347 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:40:44 EDT Re: I hope they don't mess this up http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19338314 Jovi : Name change #??? ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19338314 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:28:22 EDT Re: I hope they don't mess this up http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19338286 TKJunkMail :
said by AnonProxy See Profile :

Sometimes the gov't being involved is a very bad thing.
Almost always the gov't being involved is a very bad thing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19338286 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:20:29 EDT I hope they don't mess this up http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19338251 AnonProxy : Sometimes the gov't being involved is a very bad thing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19338251 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:08:12 EDT