Re: Nokias Rock in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19339549 en Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:57:37 EDT Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:57:37 EDT Re: Nokias Rock http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19351098 PolarBear : The JDP Scoring legend... that's very informative...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19351098 Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:35:34 EDT Re: Nokias Rock http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19349739 TKJunkMail : Nokia has very low customer satisfaction. On top - Motorola and Sanyo.
»www.jdpower.com/telecom/ratings/···ndex.asp]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19349739 Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:52:24 EDT Re: Nokias Rock http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19342940 LilYoda : I wonder where this myth that europeans don't get subsidized phones comes from....

I changed my phone 2 months ago, and I got it cheaper by resigning for 24 months on my contract. The phone is locked to a carrier, and you can unlock it once your contract extension is over.

Europeans can either buy phones full price, and unlocked, or get them at a fraction of the price by renewing their contracts with their providers. When you do so, the phone is locked to your carrier (and sometimes to a single SIM card)

Regarding siemens phones, they were great until BenQ bought them. I was a siemens fan, up to the SL55. All phones they build after BenQ bought them seemed crippled with bugs. I know the 2 I had were, and from what I read on forums, a large number of users were suffering from the same symptoms.
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A friend of mine owned an older Nokia. It was probably their lowest-end model of the time, and the display was damn near unreadable, not to mention the fact that the thing ran through batteries like a Hummer through gas and it powered off randomly despite never being abused. It may have been a fluke, but Nokias, like all other brands, certainly aren't infallible.
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The real reason Nokia phones don't sell in the U.S. is that phones do not get promoted by the carriers unless the mfr. implements what the carrier requests. The best I heard of was 70% compliance on Nokia handsets; the worst was about 30% of what Cingular asked for.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19342073 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 23:59:42 EDT Re: Nokias Rock http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19339757 major marco :
said by PolarBear See Profile :

Nokias are awesome phones [...]
I second that. I've never had a bad Nokia, even the lower end models are ten thousand times better than any shitty Moto.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19339757 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:57:18 EDT Re: Nokias Rock http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19339638 jazzy_ : Someone who gets it. Nokia phones besides some of their high end models are not that great at all. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19339638 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:37:01 EDT Re: Nokias Rock http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19339549 Steve Mehs :
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In my experience, Nokia's have the highest signal strength and the longest battery life. They are also the most durable. As a result, they are a few bucks more. Well we Americans can't be bothered with things like good quality and functionality.


I agree with some of what you say, but I disagree about Nokia. I had Nokia's early on, they suck. For durability I dare you to put the best Nokia up against a ruggedized Motorola phone for Nextel built to US Military Specifications for durability. My old Nextel Moto i90 (which is non MilSpec) took more abuse then any crappy Nokia could handle. Motorola builds some of the toughest most durable phones this planet has ever seen, and as a whole they build THE best communications equipment on the planet when it comes to two way communications for EMS and law enforcement. Crappy Nokia will never hold a candle to Motorola.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19339299 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:18:31 EDT Re: Nokias Rock http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19339202 jgkolt : Ok lets take this in another direction. Nokia phones can easily be unlocked and they are cheaper. SO in europe the people who dont get subsidized phones have to shell out more cash so they go for the cheaper one. ALso here in the states, with the free market economy we realized we didnt need this junk so we went for other phones that we liked better. When i used nokia phones it was mainly on the tdma network and all the nokia phones sucked compared to almost any other phone except the audiovox phones(which were worse). Nokia mostly gave these phones away on the cheap so people we end up with them. Recently TMOBILE released hotspot @ Home and they had a nokia phone and a samsung phone. The samsung t409 ran circles around the crappy nokia. Nokia had better specs but its functionality was horrible. I know nokia makes quality networking gear but their phones has something to desire. On the other hand the blackberry 8320 for hotspot@home is great for people just tuning in for H@H.

Siemens makes very reliable and somewhat trendy phones which are big in europe but sadly not as big here in the states. I loved my s46 siemens phone but sadly it is outdated now.

So in our market people voted with thier pocketbook that nokia better bring something better to the table if they want us to buy it. I dont care how large the company is if they put out crap they why should we buy it.
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Most people renew their plan and get a new phone every year or 2. So who cares if the phone craps out down the road. You don't keep the same PC for a lifetime either.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19339192 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:52:52 EDT rebuttal http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19339180 Boomerang86 : The last Nokia flip I got (6085) had a defect with the micro SD card slot; NONE of the four cards I had would be recognized.

I traded it in for a Moto L6. No card slot, but it works great and the signal is unbeatable for a GSM phone.
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I'd say half the reason Nokia isn't #1 in the US is because of the RazR. One of Motorola's biggest pieces of shit, destined to break, is one of our country's hottest selling phones. Why? Because it LOOKS cool. We don't care if it's a POS, we want it because it's cool.

In my experience, Nokia's have the highest signal strength and the longest battery life. They are also the most durable. As a result, they are a few bucks more. Well we Americans can't be bothered with things like good quality and functionality. I mean, it's a cell phone; what the hell does it need a battery or a signal for? No, we need what is cheapest. Thus, Moto and LG have taken over. And I hear at least once a month from one of my friends how they have to get a new phone because their's broke. Meanwhile, I still have my original Nokia brick phone from when T-mobile was still Voicestream. You know what? It still gets a better signal and it's battery lasts longer than a brand new Moto, LG or Samsung. Hell, the only reason I have ever replaced a Nokia of mine.... was to get a better Nokia (until I discovered Win mobile, anyway)! My old Nokia's are such good phones, I've recently sold a couple on Craigslist to college kids who's phones - you guessed it - broke.

The rest of the world has it figured out - spend a little more for a phone that will last you forever.
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