[Spam] Presidential election spam? in Spam, Scam and Phishbusters

Re: [Spam] Presidential election spam?

Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:40:11 EDT

anon : Don't be stupid.....
Ron Paul is truely the Next President...
I am not a Bot ...I am just paving the path
to a better way......

You should be glad when truth prevails over non truths...

No longer should truth be treated as terror.....

Ron Paul
2008

Re: [Spam] Presidential election spam?

Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:38:11 EDT

GTaylor : Want to ease my mind that it's not Ron Paul behind it? Have him condone it publicly and say I want no part of it, Bush couldn't do it with the Swift Vets and so far Paul hasn't said anything other than a denial. To me that speaks many volumes over what his supporters throw out.

Re: [Spam] Presidential election spam?

Fri, 02 Nov 2007 23:34:14 EDT

antiphishing :

said by nwrickert :

I suspect you too are rushing to judgement in declaring it sabotage.

You might be right. Then again, somebody might have arranged for some email marketing without realizing that they were dealing with a spammer. It happens.

It will probably have negligible effects on the Ron Paul campaign.

And no, I'm not a member of the Ron Paul fan club.

OMG , I have no further comment on this forum topic ! :D :D :D

Britney Spears (Without Undies '(|)' ) for President 2008
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Re: [Spam] Presidential election spam?

Fri, 02 Nov 2007 23:04:01 EDT

nwrickert : I suspect you too are rushing to judgement in declaring it sabotage.

You might be right. Then again, somebody might have arranged for some email marketing without realizing that they were dealing with a spammer. It happens.

It will probably have negligible effects on the Ron Paul campaign.

And no, I'm not a member of the Ron Paul fan club.

Re: [Spam] Presidential election spam?

Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:40:52 EDT

anon : This is just SABOTAGE, plain and simple.

Nobody is this damned stupid to think that spam emails are an effective or acceptible way of promoting a national presidential campaign, especially at a time when the campaign is making its greatest inroads legitimately!!!

It's an old tactic, it's tired, and sadly, it will probably be effective on some people who don't have the mental capacity to see through it. Take some of the respondants to this article already, who rush to judgment without really thinking about this in depth.

The most important thing to ask oneself when wanting to work out who is behind any action is: who benefits? Who stands to gain from sending out Ron Paul spam? Any person with half a brain will know that this only hurts Ron Paul, and no supporter I have ever met personally is this unintelligent to think it's a good idea to send out actual email spam.

Sure, as Paul supporters we have grown used to be accused of 'spamming' polls, both online and text polls (even those in which voters are restricted to one vote), so it comes as no surprise that this tactic is being used to somehow discredit Ron Paul.

We can't help it if the other candidates' supporters are too lazy to keep up with our activism. We can't help it if we're still the only presidential signs in neighborhood yards in states with late primaries, or that we're the only ones standing on roadsides holding signs for a man we think is America's last best hope for a true return to Constitutional government in Washington. But all of these things should stand as good evidence why we wouldn't want to sabotage our own candidate by breaking the law and pissing people off by sending out spam email. It just doesn't add up, and I hope more of you wake up and realize that.

-A REAL Person
Evansville, Indiana

Re: [Spam] Presidential election spam?

Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:22:13 EDT

anon :

said by GTaylor :

Hey Benjie, know what's truly ridiculous? The amount of Ron Paul crap we've been hit with on usenet, social sites, etc. so no, it wouldn't surprise me to see them resort to spamming.

While I agree, I think what we are seeing is overzealous grass-roots Ron Paul advocates trying to "spread the word". I doubt that spamming people is sanctioned or encourage by the official campaign office. I wouldn't know, and I'm not really inclined to dig into it. I've had enough Ron Paul to last me a lifetime, and enough of his fans and detractors to go with it.

Re: [Spam] Presidential election spam?

Fri, 02 Nov 2007 14:47:42 EDT

GTaylor : Hey Benjie, know what's truly ridiculous? The amount of Ron Paul crap we've been hit with on usenet, social sites, etc. so no, it wouldn't surprise me to see them resort to spamming.

Re: [Spam] Presidential election spam?

Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:28:25 EDT

anon : So because some random spammer sent you a letter which basically he/she must be spreading to hundreds others that Means the Ron PAUL campaign is doing it? So if rudy GUiliani, mitt romney HIllary clinton or any other candidates name is on a letter forwarded to you does that mean the official campaign of that person is responsible? Hm.. if thats a yes for you than i guess I will have to imitate this same action with every other candidates official name or website info and send it to you and lets see if I or Hillary clinton's campaign would be responsible..lol dude your ridiculous..lmao i though we invented spam block on emails for a reason

Re: [Spam] Presidential election spam?

Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:18:00 EDT

antiphishing :

said by tonyK :

Received: from 221.205.148.164 (unknown [221.205.148.164])
by (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15391DC05C
for >; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 19:36:04 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from [221.205.148.164] by dns2.site5.com; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:35:48 +0000
Message-ID:
From: "kin silvia"
To: >
Subject: IRS Fears Ron Paul? fPlAQO
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 21:48:26 +0000

inetnum: 221.204.0.0 - 221.205.255.255
netname: CNCGROUP-SX
descr: CNCGROUP Shanxi Province Network
descr: China Network Communications Group Corporation
descr: No.156,Fu-Xing-Men-Nei Street,
descr: Beijing 100031
country: CN
route: 221.204.0.0/15
descr: CNC Group CHINA169 Shanxi Province Network
country: CN
origin: AS4837
mnt-by: MAINT-CNCGROUP-RR
changed: abuse@cnc-noc.net

IP address: 221.205.148.164
Reverse DNS: [No reverse DNS entry per ns1.apnic.net.]
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Unknown]
ASN: 4837
ASN Name: CHINA169-Backbone (CNCGROUP China169 Backbone)
IP range connectivity: 2
Registrar (per ASN): APNIC
Country (per IP registrar): CN [China]
Country Currency: CNY [China Yuan Renminbi]
Country IP Range: 221.200.0.0 to 221.207.255.255
Country fraud profile: Normal
City (per outside source): Beijing, Beijing
Country (per outside source): CN [China]
Private (internal) IP? No
IP address registrar: whois.apnic.net
Known Proxy? No
Link for WHOIS: 221.205.148.164

SPAMHAUS XBL LISTED (127.0.0.4) TXT= »www.spamhaus.org/query/bl?ip=221···.164 1800 seconds 266 ms
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[Spam] Presidential election spam?

Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:31:42 EDT

anon : I got following spam this weekend. Ron Paul's campaign hitting a new low, staging by opponents or dictionary attack? Seems that mail is originating from China.

Return-Path: <jehan@atomic.com>X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on <REMOVED>X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=2.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.1.1X-Original-To: <REMOVED>Delivered-To: <REMOVED>Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])by <REMOVED> (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB00DC05Dfor <REMOVED>; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 19:36:11 -0400 (EDT)Received: from <REMOVED> ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (<REMOVED> [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27030-03 for <<REMOVED>>; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 19:36:06 -0400 (EDT)Received: from 221.205.148.164 (unknown [221.205.148.164])by <REMOVED> (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15391DC05Cfor <<REMOVED>>; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 19:36:04 -0400 (EDT)Received: from [221.205.148.164] by dns2.site5.com; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:35:48 +0000Message-ID: <000501c818f2$069d8f2a$6ee7a38f@qgjuxfgh>From: "kin silvia" <jehan@atomic.com>To: <<REMOVED>>Subject: IRS Fears Ron Paul?  fPlAQODate: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 21:48:26 +0000MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: text/plain;format=flowed;charset="iso-8859-1";reply-type=originalContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bitX-Priority: 3X-MSMail-Priority: NormalX-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3790.2663X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.2757X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at <REMOVED>X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071028-0, 10/28/2007), Inbound messageX-Antivirus-Status: Clean Hello Scott,  Ron Paul is for the people, unless you want your children to have human implant RFID chips, a National ID card and create a North American Union and see an economic collapse far worse  than the great depression. Vote for Ron Paul he speaks the  truth and the media and government is afraid of him. This is the last honest politican left to bring this country out of this rut from the War Profiteers and bush Administration has created. Get motivated America, don't believe the lies of the media he has also WON the GOP Debate On Sunday! Value Freedom and Liberty instead of corporate lies and corruption. Bypass  this media blackout they are doing to Ron Paul, tell your family  and friends and get involved in a local group at meetup.com make  your voice heard! He will end the War In Iraq immediately,  He will eliminate the IRS and wasteful government spending, and  eliminate the Federal Reserve and restore power to the people  and the only person not a member on the CFR. Can any other runner  make these claims or give Americans the true freedom we were all raised to believe? We are all economic slaves to the banks and the illegal federal Reserve. This is why our currency is worth nothing because of Hidden Inflation Tax and the IRS taking everything you make!  ** RON PAUL WILL STOP THE IRAQ WAR IMMEDIATELY! **  He has NEVER voted: * to raise taxes * for an unbalanced budget * to raise congressional pay * for a federal restriction on gun ownership * to increase the power of the executive branch  He HAS voted: * against the Iraq war * against the inappropriately named USA PATRIOT act * against regulating the internet * against the Military Commissions Act  He will eliminate the IRS, Wasteful Government Spending &  Stop The Iraq War Immediately!  Most importantly, he voted NO on anything in Congress that  is not allowed by the Constitution. And he Despises any politican that does not do their job for the people and lives up to the constitution!   Google.com & Youtube.com Search: "Ron Paul" Join The Revolution!  *************************************** We Need A Real President That Will Restore And Protect Americans! Stop The War! Protect Our Borders! *********VOTE RON PAUL 2008************RNyqG