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said by towerdave :One other thing to remember, especially with the fires in Cali. Having a backup is great, but if it's in your house, and your house gets wiped out by a disaster, it doesn't do much good. I have been using » www.Carbonite.com to back my stuff up online. $50/year for unlimited space. It's encrypted, so I feel safe that nobody will see it. Could it get hacked? Probably, yes. Will it? Probably not unless I win the lottery. I have thousands of digital family photos that I don't want to lose. This was my solution. TD That looks interesting. Thanks for that link.  -- Life is simply one damned thing after another. |
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| reply to exocet_cm Always good advice. One of the cards in my puter shot craps several weeks ago, shortly after coming back from vacation. Thank heaven things had been backed up before leaving. I had a ton of things that were made much easier, though still took time, to reinstall. |
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| reply to The Snowman said by The Snowman : For anyone who for whatever reason does not own a drive copy program you can take a look at the freeware verson of XXCLONE: the freeware has a few limitations but will copy a complete harddrive.....or so I am led to understand......read the info well.....decide for yourself. From their site, just for info's sake:
Instead of using a convoluted Windows XP backup/restore procedure, you may want to try the new XXClone software by Pixelab, available at xxclone.com. It is currently in beta testing (Feb 2004), so you have to sign up before you can download it.
The application is very simple to use. You unzip the executable to a folder, (like c:\program files), and then run it. There is just one screen, where you choose the source drive and destination drive. Then you choose the backup method (full, incremental, etc.) and other options, and click start.
The program then copies all the files from the source drive to the target drive, with special handling for registry data and other system data. It is far easier and quicker than the previously described XP Backup/Restore. Although the application does not have much documentation, not much is really needed because it is so easy to use. It works from a larger disk to a smaller disk and vice versa, as long as there is enough space for all the files.
The program works well for backups to a second drive. If your main drive goes down, all you have to do is reboot off the target drive, and everything is back to normal. The program supports command line functionality, so you can script or schedule it to run your backups. |
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| reply to towerdave said by towerdave :One other thing to remember, especially with the fires in Cali. Having a backup is great, but if it's in your house, and your house gets wiped out by a disaster, it doesn't do much good. I have been using » www.Carbonite.com to back my stuff up online. $50/year for unlimited space. It's encrypted, so I feel safe that nobody will see it. Could it get hacked? Probably, yes. Will it? Probably not unless I win the lottery. I have thousands of digital family photos that I don't want to lose. This was my solution. TD Carbonite has been recommended over and over on many tech shows, one being Kim Kommando. $50 a year for unlimited space is really something. Most on line sites charge for the year and for the amount you back up as well. |
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| reply to exocet_cm Good reminder. I use Karen's Replicator to back up all important directories onto my external WD hard drive and every couple of days I exchange my 2GB thumbdrive containing most important files with the one I keep at the office so important data is also kept off site. -- If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. |
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| reply to EvilByDesire said by EvilByDesire :Vista ultimate does weekly backups for me... dont even need to worry about it... and yes ive tested the backups to make sure they work... That's cool. Acronis TI does weekly backups for me. Weekly incrementals and monthly fulls. |
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  trparky Bite My Shiny Metal Ass Premium,MVM join:2000-05-24 Cleveland, OH clubs: 1 edit | Don't forget about off-site backup. You may have all the backups you want, but if your house burns down... they're gone too.
Safest form of backup... off-site backup with one of the various online backup services. -- Tom |
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  koolman2 Premium join:2002-10-01 Anchorage, AK | reply to exocet_cm Thanks, backing up now. |
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The info you posted is great...however....the freeware version is not Beta and does not require sign-up......the website can be just a little confusing.....if I recall it is not until you download that the freeware version is shown.......but not sure. Definitely it is a worthwhile program......even the freeware version.......for anyone who does not have a Backup program this one would be hard to beat. Glad you posted that info........seeya |
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| reply to exocet_cm Yesterday I said I would back up today. Whoops, I meant TODAY! 
BTW, if you have a Seagate or Maxtor hard drive you can download Seagate DiscWizard or Maxtor MaxBlast software to use for imaging based on Acronis for free. -- Chris Living in Paradise!! |
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join:2002-01-24 Norcross, GA | reply to jaykaykay Another vote for Carbonite! I actually had to use it when my hard drive crashed. Turned the hard drive crash from disaster into annoyance. Worth the 50 bucks any day! |
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| reply to exocet_cm I don't need to backup my boot drives since I welcome the chance to reinstall. My data is backed up though but I use something that is much faster and results in a far more useful backup when things go sour.
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| reply to chrisretusn said by chrisretusn :Yesterday I said I would back up today. Whoops, I meant TODAY!  BTW, if you have a Seagate or Maxtor hard drive you can download Seagate DiscWizard or Maxtor MaxBlast software to use for imaging based on Acronis for free. »www.theinquirer.net/en/inquirer/···-is-free Chris is correct. Here is a link to the links for the free versions. You can also go to Seagate.com and click support and then click downloads. DiscWizard and MaxBlast should be under General downloads. -- If we quit voting, will they all just go away? |
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1 edit | reply to trparky This is true. Forgot to state that my monthly fulls are on a USB drive that gets taken to work (~40 miles away). 
Good point to mention, though, trparky . Though I don't know about the online options being "the safest". Safer than stuff kept at home, most certainly. |
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join:2007-06-12 united state 1 edit | reply to exocet_cm Dear All,
Has anybody used a service called Angel Backup?
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| reply to exocet_cm " But I backed it up to the backup folder ! "
" What do you mean I only have one drive , I saved all my backups to D so I wouldn't lose them ! "
" Well no , I never did check to make sure the backups work , the program said it copied ." This from a " PRO " at work that tried to lock our systems down so tight that they were unusable !
Rule 1 All machines will " screw up " , it is just a matter of when . Rule 2 If you think " that can never happen " it will.
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| reply to exocet_cm Thanks for reviving this thread!
Real life data disaster story
Both of my SATA mirrored drives failed and because I started making regular backups I had a backup (even on a "data-redundant" system) on an external drive.
Both SATA drives failed at the same time and I was able to recover the data from a third back-uped drive.
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It is not IF it will fail, it is when.
I am NOT debating the merits or disadvantages of doing backups, I consider it mandatory.
Here is my question to those in the know. This is trying to encourage a discussion AND to help any "newbies" seeing and reading this topic on going "backups". Which method is better, why and under what circumstances would you conduct one over another. -Full backup -incremental backup -differential backup -image backup
There are some who (for various reasons) have not grasped the language of "backups". IMHO the backup procedure should be part of the process when the machine is being setup. Separate the installed applications from the created data, which can answer the question of backups. So if disaster strikes (worse case) e.g. backup the created data re-install the app. This is trying to help others and makes any sense to the knowledgeable folks like yourselves. Just my .000002 cents. Cheers  -- The Endless |
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| reply to The Snowman Publisher's description of XXClone
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Download SiteAdvisor Plus trial XXCloneE copies the whole Windows NT, 2000, or XP system volume to another disk that will be ready to boot without a restore step. You may boot the system from the clone volume when disaster strikes. The cloned volume may be of any size as long as the volume data can fit. It can copy from FAT to NTFS or vice versa. Supports USB-disk, PATA, and SATA. Ideal for periodic backup, disk upgrade, or migration. Extremely easy to use. |
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