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It's hardly a secret that the cultish supporters of the Bircheresque Crank regularly spam polls and engage in other such overly obsessive behavior in support of their looney suject of worship Ron Paul.
This would hardly be unusual amongst his base of conspiracy theorist, white supremicist band of college kid supporters.
One doesn't really need to bother inventing stories about his supporters; there's also no reason to bother considering that he has absolutely zero chance of winning.
I now await the typical Ron Paul supporter response, which typically involves calling his detractors facist socialist neocons  |
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| said by dynodb  :It's hardly a secret that the cultish supporters of the Bircheresque Crank regularly spam polls and engage in other such overly obsessive behavior in support of their looney suject of worship Ron Paul. This would hardly be unusual amongst his base of conspiracy theorist, white supremicist band of college kid supporters. HAHAHAHAa that's funny. I'm not white, nor am I a conspiracy theorist, but I support Ron Paul. I'm educated and understand good fiscal responsibility and the Constitution.
One doesn't really need to bother inventing stories about his supporters; there's also no reason to bother considering that he has absolutely zero chance of winning. You just invented a story about his supporters (namely that they're white supremacist kids). Quite the loon you are.
I now await the typical Ron Paul supporter response, which typically involves calling his detractors facist socialist neocons
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| said by Mike :I bet you $5 the next president is going to be either Mitt Romney, Giuliani, Obama, or Clinton. I'll accept that bet if you give me 10-1.
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said by Mike :I bet you $5 the next president is going to be either Mitt Romney, Giuliani, Obama, or Clinton. That is a sure thing. |
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| said by TKJunkMail :said by Mike :I bet you $5 the next president is going to be either Mitt Romney, Giuliani, Obama, or Clinton. That is a sure thing. Offering you the same bet, with you giving me 10-1.
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So now everyone that adheres to the constitution is a facist....Wow
And they say his supporters are fanatical?
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| said by S_engineer :So now everyone that adheres to the constitution is a facist....Wow And they say his supporters are fanatical? I think you read that post wrong. He says Ron Paul supporters are going to call him a facist [SIC].
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said by dynodb :there's also no reason to bother considering that he has absolutely zero chance of winning. In past Presidential elections, I've voted for the candidate that I liked best among the two who were the most likely to win. I thought that supporting a third party candidate was a stupid waste of a vote. Now, however, I've decided that it's not stupid and it's not a waste of a vote. In fact, it's the best use of a vote that one can make. By voting for someone who shares your ideals better regardless of that person's chances of winning, you:
1 - Don't contribute your support to a candidate you don't like.
2 - Make it more likely that the candidate you support might actually be elected. (Small effect, sure, but imagine if everyone dissatisfied with Republicans and Democrats voted third party!)
3 - Make it likely that the winning candidate will adopt your preferred candidate's position. (When a third party candidate wins >10% of the vote, the major parties listen and adopt their messages to keep their dominant positions.) |
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| Excellent advice! I've said this same thing yet in a different way; if someone always votes for the lesser of two evils, then they have no right to complain when all they get is evil.
I'm not going to throw my vote away anymore by voting AGAINST who I don't want to win. That is why we keep staying in this situation. We shouldn't let hatred be our guide... look where it has gotten us. :| |
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said by tiger72 :said by dynodb :It's hardly a secret that the cultish supporters of the Bircheresque Crank regularly spam polls and engage in other such overly obsessive behavior in support of their looney suject of worship Ron Paul. This would hardly be unusual amongst his base of conspiracy theorist, white supremicist band of college kid supporters. HAHAHAHAa that's funny. I'm not white, nor am I a conspiracy theorist, but I support Ron Paul. I'm educated and understand good fiscal responsibility and the Constitution. One doesn't really need to bother inventing stories about his supporters; there's also no reason to bother considering that he has absolutely zero chance of winning. You just invented a story about his supporters (namely that they're white supremacist kids). Quite the loon you are. I now await the typical Ron Paul supporter response, which typically involves calling his detractors facist socialist neocons Once again, inventing stories about his supporters. Well done! Go to the white supremicist site stormfront.org- you'll have no problem finding pro-Ron Paul threads there. Ditto with just about any 9/11 conspiracy site.
And just remember- all contributions to the Bircheresque Crank should be in the form of gold coins, not that filthy "fiat money". |
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| said by dynodb :said by tiger72 :said by dynodb :It's hardly a secret that the cultish supporters of the Bircheresque Crank regularly spam polls and engage in other such overly obsessive behavior in support of their looney suject of worship Ron Paul. This would hardly be unusual amongst his base of conspiracy theorist, white supremicist band of college kid supporters. HAHAHAHAa that's funny. I'm not white, nor am I a conspiracy theorist, but I support Ron Paul. I'm educated and understand good fiscal responsibility and the Constitution. One doesn't really need to bother inventing stories about his supporters; there's also no reason to bother considering that he has absolutely zero chance of winning. You just invented a story about his supporters (namely that they're white supremacist kids). Quite the loon you are. I now await the typical Ron Paul supporter response, which typically involves calling his detractors facist socialist neocons Once again, inventing stories about his supporters. Well done! Go to the white supremicist site stormfront.org- you'll have no problem finding pro-Ron Paul threads there. Ditto with just about any 9/11 conspiracy site. And just remember- all contributions to the Bircheresque Crank should be in the form of gold coins, not that filthy "fiat money". So because some racist morons happen to support my candidate, I should vote for someone else?
All this proves is that even racist morons recognize that Iraq is a complete mess and going into Iran is about the dumbest move ever.
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said by Jason Levine :3 - Make it likely that the winning candidate will adopt your preferred candidate's position. (When a third party candidate wins >10% of the vote, the major parties listen and adopt their messages to keep their dominant positions.) He's not going to get 10% of the vote; move the decimal point one digit to the left and you'd be a lot closer. |
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| said by dynodb :said by Jason Levine :3 - Make it likely that the winning candidate will adopt your preferred candidate's position. (When a third party candidate wins >10% of the vote, the major parties listen and adopt their messages to keep their dominant positions.) He's not going to get 10% of the vote; move the decimal point one digit to the left and you'd be a lot closer. I think he was speaking more generally. Ron Paul is not going to run as a third party candidate.
Anyway, anything could happen. The most recent St. Anselm poll in New Hampshire has him at 7% for the primary.
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said by dynodb :Go to the white supremicist site stormfront.org- you'll have no problem finding pro-Ron Paul threads there. Ditto with just about any 9/11 conspiracy site. And just remember- all contributions to the Bircheresque Crank should be in the form of gold coins, not that filthy "fiat money". My you're full of venom.
That said, I could care less if white supremacists support Ron Paul. I could care less of Nazis or pedophiles support him. I could care less if Black Panthers or religious wing-nuts support him.
I support him because he supports freedom of speech, association, and press.
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Neither mit or giuliani are real Conservatives. They have both spent millions to try and cover up and explain away their past records. Fred is polling second in most polls, yet has spent a fraction of what mitt or giuliani have spent. |
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said by AmeritecTech :I think he was speaking more generally. Ron Paul is not going to run as a third party candidate. Anyway, anything could happen. The most recent St. Anselm poll in New Hampshire has him at 7% for the primary. I think it quite likely that he will run third party- he's already proved that he's incapable of being embarrassed, and he's hinted at the possibility in the past.
And more respected polling organizations- like Rasmussen- have Paul at 1-2% in NH. He'll probably do a bit better than that in the primaries due to the slavish devotion of his supporters, but it won't be enough to have an impact. |
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1 edit | said by dynodb :said by AmeritecTech :I think he was speaking more generally. Ron Paul is not going to run as a third party candidate. Anyway, anything could happen. The most recent St. Anselm poll in New Hampshire has him at 7% for the primary. I think it quite likely that he will run third party- he's already proved that he's incapable of being embarrassed, and he's hinted at the possibility in the past. He's stated repeatedly that he has no plans to run third party.
And more respected polling organizations- like Rasmussen- have Paul at 1-2% in NH. He'll probably do a bit better than that in the primaries due to the slavish devotion of his supporters, but it won't be enough to have an impact.
Rasmussen reports results that are pretty consistently off the mark in national polls compared to, say, Gallup. Gallup isn't doing state-by-state polls, unfortunately. With the general low attendance of primaries, it seems like primary polls aren't as accurate as general election polls. For example, two weeks prior to the 1996 primary, Buchanan was polling just 11%, yet won the primary. Ron Paul has undoubtedly the most passionate supporters, much like Buchanan did, so there could be a January Surprise.
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