Re: Smear Campaign in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19356771 en Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:12:22 EDT Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:12:22 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19381857 yock : I still don't understand what the "k" has to do with anything.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19381857 Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:51:32 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19381272 mcmillan : It seems that Ron Paul is the only candidate that UNDERSTANDS constitution.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19381272 Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:25:20 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19381200 mcmillan : Ad hominem...
When you argue it would do you good to think more.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19381200 Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:08:21 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19380748 supergirl :
said by yock See Profile :

said by supergirl See Profile :

Under Hillary Klinton that could happen
Yep, in fact I dare say Ron Paul is about the only candidate who outright opposes it, aside from some of the fringe Democrats.

What's with misspelling her name?
Hillary Klinton = Socialism.

Ron Paul = Schizophrenic!
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said by supergirl See Profile :

Under Hillary Klinton that could happen
Yep, in fact I dare say Ron Paul is about the only candidate who outright opposes it, aside from some of the fringe Democrats.

What's with misspelling her name?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19375528 Sat, 03 Nov 2007 09:27:56 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19375048 supergirl :
said by yock See Profile :

said by supergirl See Profile :

If Ron Paul says, "The Constitution! The Constitution! The Constitution!" one more time, can I whack him on the head with it? It would be good for my constitution. :D
I just wanted to make sure this got quoted for posterity. That way, in a few years when you're presenting your RealID to the nice officer who clears you to enter your own home, we can look back at this and have a hearty guffaw.
Under Hillary Klinton that could happen (Illegal Aliens are exempt).

Trick or Treat?

Bill Clinton got drunk in college and ended up sleeping with this woman from the sorority. He woke up the next morning in a strange bed and all his clothes were missing. That wasn't a shock since it happened many times before. The shock came when he pulled back the covers and found Hillary sleeping next to him.

If Ron Paul understood the Constitution, I wouldn't be making fun of him. Of course, he does routinely make a total jacka** out of himself. :D
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said by supergirl See Profile :

If Ron Paul says, "The Constitution! The Constitution! The Constitution!" one more time, can I whack him on the head with it? It would be good for my constitution. :D
I just wanted to make sure this got quoted for posterity. That way, in a few years when you're presenting your RealID to the nice officer who clears you to enter your own home, we can look back at this and have a hearty guffaw.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19371619 Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:52:27 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19371599 supergirl :
said by Karl Bode See Profile :

quote:
I don't get the obsession with this guy that wants to eliminate the FBI, CIA, IRS


Shh! You're not supposed to mention the utterly batshit insane portion of the platform.
Well, he has raised $5 million for his campaign. I guess a lot of "fools and their money parted." :o :D :uhh:

If Ron Paul says, "The Constitution! The Constitution! The Constitution!" one more time, can I whack him on the head with it? It would be good for my constitution. :D
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said by yock See Profile :

Perhaps I need to start spamming people about the greatness of Clinton and Giuliani. Will you all have such negative reactions toward those candidates for the spam as well?

Or is this just an excuse to perform a little unwarranted character assassination?
If they didn't fear him, they wouldn't spend the time using ad hominem attacks which are based upon false presumptions.

Ahh the beauty of logically fallacious arguments is that they easily can be dismissed out of hand.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19369833 Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:15:35 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19369042 yock : Perhaps I need to start spamming people about the greatness of Clinton and Giuliani. Will you all have such negative reactions toward those candidates for the spam as well?

Or is this just an excuse to perform a little unwarranted character assassination?
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Lynch All Liars]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19369042 Fri, 02 Nov 2007 08:15:55 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19368347 anon : Aw come on, Karl, but neo-nazis and Islamic supremacists agree, Ron Paul is the right man for the job as President!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19368347 Fri, 02 Nov 2007 01:28:03 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19367161 tdagg : All I can say is that [some] Ron Paul supporters are the reason I stopped visiting Digg. It just got to be too much. Other than that I have no opinion about the man. It doesn't matter where the spam came from, SPAM is SPAM (unless you fry it up and put some brown sugar sauce on it).

It's not nearly as bad as things like the phone jamming in NH and other dirty tricks some have come up with, but his campaign walks a fine line between great grassroots support and alienating potential voters (and others) with some of the more fanatical 'support' displayed outside of the official campaign.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19367161 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:31:57 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19365656 Karl Bode :
quote:
I don't get the obsession with this guy that wants to eliminate the FBI, CIA, IRS

Shh! You're not supposed to mention the utterly batshit insane portion of the platform.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19365656 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:25:13 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19365577 anon : Wish we had someone like Ron Paul over here in Good ole Commy Britain.
»thebestronpaulvideos.blogspot.com/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19365577 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:22:48 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19363041 anon : Hmmm. You do realise that just because you're laughable it doesnt mean that you're automatically two steps away from inevitable victory.

"Remember, homies: sometimes you're just laughable." - Gandhi]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19363041 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:51:44 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19362560 yock : supergirl See Profile, you are absolutely entitled to your opinion, but your post is indicative of stage 2 of Ghandi's axiom.

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

Core Libertarian values are the only values which allow all people to live the way they want to live. It is the only ideology which actually encourages other ideologies to flourish. I think you feel threatened by that, or else you wouldn't waste your time belittling it all on the Internet.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19362560 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:01:17 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19362538 supergirl :
said by tiger72 See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by laserjobs See Profile :

Why would someone do this unless they were trying to create truth to a lie to smear Ron Paul?
Maybe because many of Paul's supporters are over the top fanatics who are somewhat crazy and have made use of the internet their platform to flack for their candidate.
Actual Ron Paul supporters can spell. We can also make grammatically correct sentences.
Rep. Ron Paul (R-Who cares?) is a nut. I don't get the obsession with this guy that wants to eliminate the FBI, CIA, IRS, and then blames 9-11 on past foreign policy (Rudy did whack him good on that that fiasco).

The only thing Ron Paul is good for is entertainment: how big of a jerk will he make of himself tonight? Only Kucinich looks more crazy. Paul, Kucinich, and Gravel (the other Democrat nut kicked out of the debates) should all get together and go on some medication.

Kucinich and Ron Paul supporters think both are some God of Politics because they won an Internet Poll. Both just prove there are complete nutjobs in both parties.

Have to agree with Joe Biden on Kucinich: the only thing good about him is his wife.

Ron Paul believes the War Powers Act is Unconstitutional (pretty sure he thinks the income tax is illegal too). Kucinich believes in UFOs according to the last debate, which made him look like a complete idiot. Maybe his wife is an alien? No, she's British. But, that doesn't explain the crop circles at Kucinich's farm. :)
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said by Jerm See Profile :

yeah cause macs are great, until you try to do anything. play games? oh wait...

with a mac you can... uhh... browse the internet and use photoshop?!

oh wait yeah browsing may not work so well, better get back on that pc so the site "looks right" again...
hahahahaha lol omg so tru!1!!

no wait, nm.

I spoke to an uninformed n00b (much like urself) about Crysis, in which I was then told that his system didnt support it.

I let him play it on my MacBook Pro.

There's nothing sweeter than a PC Lovers envy (yum) ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19360692 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:49:09 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19360457 dodgetech2 :
said by S_engineer See Profile :

" or will this bring shame to the campaigns and will they make clear that this is not a form of acceptable behavior by their supporters?"----Gary Warner

WOW....convicted before evidence...the state of American politics, how sad! :(
I didn't think it was possible to bring any more shame than there already is..:) ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19360457 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:09:36 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19359041 anon : If that was an attempt at humor, I can only say LOL!

If that wasn't then it was too funny to take seriously.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19359041 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:01:13 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19359037 vonage : He runs marathons @ 72..worry about your own health! ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19359037 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:06:13 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19358785 TKJunkMail :
said by Jim Gurd See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

He is 72 and his age goes against him the same way McCain's age(71) is an issue to. And before you bring up Reagan, he was 69 on election day and his age was an issue at the time, but he overcame it.
He's a lot more youthful and energetic than Fred Thompson. Fred looked like he was 102 in the last debate.
Fred just LOOKS old because he is trying to keep that young wife happy. ;)
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

He is 72 and his age goes against him the same way McCain's age(71) is an issue to. And before you bring up Reagan, he was 69 on election day and his age was an issue at the time, but he overcame it.
He's a lot more youthful and energetic than Fred Thompson. Fred looked like he was 102 in the last debate.
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by tiger72 See Profile :

said by FiL See Profile :

He's gonna need a doctor 2 weeks into the 2008 year...

you see how old he looks? I want a president that isn't gonna keel over a half year into presidency...lol.
He's more wily and stronger than any other candidate on the Republican stage.
He is 72 and his age goes against him the same way McCain's age(71) is an issue to. And before you bring up Reagan, he was 69 on election day and his age was an issue at the time, but he overcame it.
His age is an issue because there is nothing else folks can attack him on.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19358729 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:22:25 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19358692 tiger72 :
said by anony101 :

Do you have any evidence to support that statement.
yes.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19358692 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:17:50 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19358606 Matt :
said by AmeritecTech See Profile :

said by anony101 :

Do you have any evidence to support that statement.
Did you intend to end that sentence with a question mark?
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said by anony101 :

Do you have any evidence to support that statement.
Did you intend to end that sentence with a question mark?
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said by tiger72 See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by laserjobs See Profile :

Why would someone do this unless they were trying to create truth to a lie to smear Ron Paul?
Maybe because many of Paul's supporters are over the top fanatics who are somewhat crazy and have made use of the internet their platform to flack for their candidate.
Actual Ron Paul supporters can spell. We can also make grammatically correct sentences.
Do you have any evidence to support that statement.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19358582 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:02:42 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19358502 yock :
said by AmeritecTech See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by Mike See Profile :

I bet you $5 the next president is going to be either Mitt Romney, Giuliani, Obama, or Clinton.
That is a sure thing.
Offering you the same bet, with you giving me 10-1.
I want a piece of this too.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19358502 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:49:28 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19358499 TKJunkMail :
said by tiger72 See Profile :

said by FiL See Profile :

He's gonna need a doctor 2 weeks into the 2008 year...

you see how old he looks? I want a president that isn't gonna keel over a half year into presidency...lol.
He's more wily and stronger than any other candidate on the Republican stage.
He is 72 and his age goes against him the same way McCain's age(71) is an issue to. And before you bring up Reagan, he was 69 on election day and his age was an issue at the time, but he overcame it.
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said by FiL See Profile :

He's gonna need a doctor 2 weeks into the 2008 year...

you see how old he looks? I want a president that isn't gonna keel over a half year into presidency...lol.
He's more wily and stronger than any other candidate on the Republican stage.
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you see how old he looks? I want a president that isn't gonna keel over a half year into presidency...lol.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19358395 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:32:55 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19358376 LowRider :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by laserjobs See Profile :

Why would someone do this unless they were trying to create truth to a lie to smear Ron Paul?
Maybe because many of Paul's supporters are over the top fanatics who are somewhat crazy and have made use of the internet their platform to flack for their candidate.
Ron Paul is way outside the box, but if he wasn't he wouldn't have supporters (that's growing), he's the only candidate that makes the truth the truth and that's why he's so weird cause most are so used to not thinking for themselfs but have gov do it for them. the other candidates want to tax tax tax, and more gov. Ron Paul sees the Gov as a problem for this country cause its getting bigger WITHOUT any checks and balances.

GO RON PAUL ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19358376 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:29:26 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19358354 dynodb :
said by AmeritecTech See Profile :

Rasmussen reports results that are pretty consistently off the mark in national polls compared to, say, Gallup...

...For example, two weeks prior to the 1996 primary, Buchanan was polling just 11%, yet won the primary.
Rasmussen screens for likely primary voters; Gallup doesn't- different sample groups yeild different results. Either way, Gallup doesn't have Paul doing any better.

Buchanan didn't win the Republican primary in '96- Bob Dole did. He did win in NH, but it didn't mean much- he got slaughtered in terms of delegates.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19358354 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:25:18 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19358135 Davros866 : Many of these polls are only calling republicans who voted in the 2004 primary. That's the republicans who voted for Bush in the last republican primary where he ran unopposed.

Also, many of these polls don't even include Ron Paul. One automated phone poll that I heard said "press 1 for Giuliani, press 2 for Romney, press 3 for Thompson, press 4 for McCain, press 5 for Huckabee, press 6 for other candidates."

But as long as you call it "scientific" it has to be right!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19358135 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:49:48 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19358113 AmeritecTech : Hey, its not Mac's fault that the Internet Explorer programmers are just now finally cleaning up their code.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19358113 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:46:46 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19358107 Jerm : yeah cause macs are great, until you try to do anything. play games? oh wait...

with a mac you can... uhh... browse the internet and use photoshop?!

oh wait yeah browsing may not work so well, better get back on that pc so the site "looks right" again...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19358107 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:45:32 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19357901 supernac : This is true to a point. The fact that Fred is polling higher than mitt is proof otherwise. I cant name one conservative that is happy about mitt or rudy. Hopefully this race we will see a push towards TRUE conservative principles. Really this is the only chance republicans have got.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19357901 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:11:45 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19357665 AmeritecTech :
said by dynodb See Profile :

said by AmeritecTech See Profile :

I think he was speaking more generally. Ron Paul is not going to run as a third party candidate.

Anyway, anything could happen. The most recent St. Anselm poll in New Hampshire has him at 7% for the primary.
I think it quite likely that he will run third party- he's already proved that he's incapable of being embarrassed, and he's hinted at the possibility in the past.
He's stated repeatedly that he has no plans to run third party.

And more respected polling organizations- like Rasmussen- have Paul at 1-2% in NH. He'll probably do a bit better than that in the primaries due to the slavish devotion of his supporters, but it won't be enough to have an impact.
Rasmussen reports results that are pretty consistently off the mark in national polls compared to, say, Gallup. Gallup isn't doing state-by-state polls, unfortunately. With the general low attendance of primaries, it seems like primary polls aren't as accurate as general election polls. For example, two weeks prior to the 1996 primary, Buchanan was polling just 11%, yet won the primary. Ron Paul has undoubtedly the most passionate supporters, much like Buchanan did, so there could be a January Surprise.
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said by AmeritecTech See Profile :

I think he was speaking more generally. Ron Paul is not going to run as a third party candidate.

Anyway, anything could happen. The most recent St. Anselm poll in New Hampshire has him at 7% for the primary.
I think it quite likely that he will run third party- he's already proved that he's incapable of being embarrassed, and he's hinted at the possibility in the past.

And more respected polling organizations- like Rasmussen- have Paul at 1-2% in NH. He'll probably do a bit better than that in the primaries due to the slavish devotion of his supporters, but it won't be enough to have an impact.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19357614 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:27:38 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19357601 Matt :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by laserjobs See Profile :

Why would someone do this unless they were trying to create truth to a lie to smear Ron Paul?
Maybe because many of Paul's supporters are over the top fanatics who are somewhat crazy and have made use of the internet their platform to flack for their candidate.
Couldn't have said it better myself. And they smell funny.
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Money does. Whoever spends the most money wins. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19357492 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:10:49 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19357340 clickie : Definitely Apple fanatics. That is, until a Windows fanatic sees a PC/Mac commercial, then all bets are off.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19357340 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:50:02 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19357228 supernac : Neither mit or giuliani are real Conservatives. They have both spent millions to try and cover up and explain away their past records. Fred is polling second in most polls, yet has spent a fraction of what mitt or giuliani have spent.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19357228 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:31:58 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19357198 KrK :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Maybe because many of Paul's supporters are over the top fanatics who are somewhat crazy and have made use of the internet their platform to flack for their candidate.
Hmmm that sounds just like many Republicans AND Democrats that I know too.
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said by dynodb See Profile :

Go to the white supremicist site stormfront.org- you'll have no problem finding pro-Ron Paul threads there. Ditto with just about any 9/11 conspiracy site.

And just remember- all contributions to the Bircheresque Crank should be in the form of gold coins, not that filthy "fiat money".
My you're full of venom.

That said, I could care less if white supremacists support Ron Paul. I could care less of Nazis or pedophiles support him. I could care less if Black Panthers or religious wing-nuts support him.

I support him because he supports freedom of speech, association, and press.
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said by dynodb See Profile :

said by Jason Levine See Profile :

3 - Make it likely that the winning candidate will adopt your preferred candidate's position. (When a third party candidate wins >10% of the vote, the major parties listen and adopt their messages to keep their dominant positions.)
He's not going to get 10% of the vote; move the decimal point one digit to the left and you'd be a lot closer.
I think he was speaking more generally. Ron Paul is not going to run as a third party candidate.

Anyway, anything could happen. The most recent St. Anselm poll in New Hampshire has him at 7% for the primary.
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said by Jason Levine See Profile :

3 - Make it likely that the winning candidate will adopt your preferred candidate's position. (When a third party candidate wins >10% of the vote, the major parties listen and adopt their messages to keep their dominant positions.)
He's not going to get 10% of the vote; move the decimal point one digit to the left and you'd be a lot closer. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19357144 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:20:41 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19357143 WALL_E :
said by dynodb See Profile :

said by tiger72 See Profile :

said by dynodb See Profile :

It's hardly a secret that the cultish supporters of the Bircheresque Crank regularly spam polls and engage in other such overly obsessive behavior in support of their looney suject of worship Ron Paul.

This would hardly be unusual amongst his base of conspiracy theorist, white supremicist band of college kid supporters.
HAHAHAHAa that's funny. I'm not white, nor am I a conspiracy theorist, but I support Ron Paul. I'm educated and understand good fiscal responsibility and the Constitution.
One doesn't really need to bother inventing stories about his supporters; there's also no reason to bother considering that he has absolutely zero chance of winning.
You just invented a story about his supporters (namely that they're white supremacist kids). Quite the loon you are.
I now await the typical Ron Paul supporter response, which typically involves calling his detractors facist socialist neocons :uhh:
Once again, inventing stories about his supporters. Well done!
Go to the white supremicist site stormfront.org- you'll have no problem finding pro-Ron Paul threads there. Ditto with just about any 9/11 conspiracy site.

And just remember- all contributions to the Bircheresque Crank should be in the form of gold coins, not that filthy "fiat money".
So because some racist morons happen to support my candidate, I should vote for someone else?

All this proves is that even racist morons recognize that Iraq is a complete mess and going into Iran is about the dumbest move ever.
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said by tiger72 See Profile :

said by dynodb See Profile :

It's hardly a secret that the cultish supporters of the Bircheresque Crank regularly spam polls and engage in other such overly obsessive behavior in support of their looney suject of worship Ron Paul.

This would hardly be unusual amongst his base of conspiracy theorist, white supremicist band of college kid supporters.
HAHAHAHAa that's funny. I'm not white, nor am I a conspiracy theorist, but I support Ron Paul. I'm educated and understand good fiscal responsibility and the Constitution.
One doesn't really need to bother inventing stories about his supporters; there's also no reason to bother considering that he has absolutely zero chance of winning.
You just invented a story about his supporters (namely that they're white supremacist kids). Quite the loon you are.
I now await the typical Ron Paul supporter response, which typically involves calling his detractors facist socialist neocons :uhh:
Once again, inventing stories about his supporters. Well done!
Go to the white supremicist site stormfront.org- you'll have no problem finding pro-Ron Paul threads there. Ditto with just about any 9/11 conspiracy site.

And just remember- all contributions to the Bircheresque Crank should be in the form of gold coins, not that filthy "fiat money".]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19357111 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:15:12 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19357032 Sly : Excellent advice! I've said this same thing yet in a different way; if someone always votes for the lesser of two evils, then they have no right to complain when all they get is evil.

I'm not going to throw my vote away anymore by voting AGAINST who I don't want to win. That is why we keep staying in this situation. We shouldn't let hatred be our guide... look where it has gotten us. :|]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19357032 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:05:48 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19356979 Jason Levine :
said by dynodb See Profile :

there's also no reason to bother considering that he has absolutely zero chance of winning.
In past Presidential elections, I've voted for the candidate that I liked best among the two who were the most likely to win. I thought that supporting a third party candidate was a stupid waste of a vote. Now, however, I've decided that it's not stupid and it's not a waste of a vote. In fact, it's the best use of a vote that one can make. By voting for someone who shares your ideals better regardless of that person's chances of winning, you:

1 - Don't contribute your support to a candidate you don't like.

2 - Make it more likely that the candidate you support might actually be elected. (Small effect, sure, but imagine if everyone dissatisfied with Republicans and Democrats voted third party!)

3 - Make it likely that the winning candidate will adopt your preferred candidate's position. (When a third party candidate wins >10% of the vote, the major parties listen and adopt their messages to keep their dominant positions.)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19356979 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:57:30 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19356976 JPuppy :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Maybe because many of Paul's supporters are over the top fanatics who are somewhat crazy
It's rather hilarious to see you accusing others of being fanatics. I've read your Red Room posts.
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said by S_engineer See Profile :

So now everyone that adheres to the constitution is a facist....Wow

And they say his supporters are fanatical?
I think you read that post wrong. He says Ron Paul supporters are going to call him a facist [SIC].
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And they say his supporters are fanatical?
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by Mike See Profile :

I bet you $5 the next president is going to be either Mitt Romney, Giuliani, Obama, or Clinton.
That is a sure thing.
Offering you the same bet, with you giving me 10-1.
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said by Mike See Profile :

I bet you $5 the next president is going to be either Mitt Romney, Giuliani, Obama, or Clinton.
That is a sure thing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19356870 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:41:10 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19356861 AmeritecTech :
said by Mike See Profile :

I bet you $5 the next president is going to be either Mitt Romney, Giuliani, Obama, or Clinton.
I'll accept that bet if you give me 10-1.
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-John Callari]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19356861 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:39:45 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19356795 Mike : I bet you $5 the next president is going to be either Mitt Romney, Giuliani, Obama, or Clinton.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19356795 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:29:47 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19356785 tiger72 :
said by dynodb See Profile :

It's hardly a secret that the cultish supporters of the Bircheresque Crank regularly spam polls and engage in other such overly obsessive behavior in support of their looney suject of worship Ron Paul.

This would hardly be unusual amongst his base of conspiracy theorist, white supremicist band of college kid supporters.
HAHAHAHAa that's funny. I'm not white, nor am I a conspiracy theorist, but I support Ron Paul. I'm educated and understand good fiscal responsibility and the Constitution.
One doesn't really need to bother inventing stories about his supporters; there's also no reason to bother considering that he has absolutely zero chance of winning.
You just invented a story about his supporters (namely that they're white supremacist kids). Quite the loon you are.
I now await the typical Ron Paul supporter response, which typically involves calling his detractors facist socialist neocons :uhh:
Once again, inventing stories about his supporters. Well done!
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WOW....convicted before evidence...the state of American politics, how sad! :(
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said by Mike See Profile :

We need to make a poll.

Who is crazier;

Apple Fanatics or the hardcore Ron Paul fans.

/posted from a mac
That is fantastic...And I would vote Apple Supporters. :-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19356771 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:26:19 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19356753 tiger72 :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by laserjobs See Profile :

Why would someone do this unless they were trying to create truth to a lie to smear Ron Paul?
Maybe because many of Paul's supporters are over the top fanatics who are somewhat crazy and have made use of the internet their platform to flack for their candidate.
Actual Ron Paul supporters can spell. We can also make grammatically correct sentences.
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Who is crazier;

Apple Fanatics or the hardcore Ron Paul fans.

/posted from a mac]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19356749 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:24:20 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19356706 dynodb : It's hardly a secret that the cultish supporters of the Bircheresque Crank regularly spam polls and engage in other such overly obsessive behavior in support of their looney suject of worship Ron Paul.

This would hardly be unusual amongst his base of conspiracy theorist, white supremicist band of college kid supporters.

One doesn't really need to bother inventing stories about his supporters; there's also no reason to bother considering that he has absolutely zero chance of winning.

I now await the typical Ron Paul supporter response, which typically involves calling his detractors facist socialist neocons :uhh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19356706 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:18:22 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19356667 Cod :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Maybe because many of Paul's supporters are over the top fanatics who are somewhat crazy and have made use of the internet their platform to flack for their candidate.
...as is true with any presidential candidates' supporters, not just Ron Paul's.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19356667 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:13:00 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19356611 Kibbles : I bet a lot is coming from China...my guess a Chinese Hillary supporter is behind it. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19356611 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:03:10 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19356572 Madmick : The lame stream media is very afraid that their agenda will come to a screeching halt with Dr. Ron Paul returning the US to it's proper form as a Constitutional Republic. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19356572 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:57:30 EDT Re: Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19356560 TKJunkMail :
said by laserjobs See Profile :

Why would someone do this unless they were trying to create truth to a lie to smear Ron Paul?
Maybe because many of Paul's supporters are over the top fanatics who are somewhat crazy and have made use of the internet their platform to flack for their candidate.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19356560 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:55:04 EDT Smear Campaign http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19356545 laserjobs : Why would someone do this unless they were trying to create truth to a lie to smear Ron Paul?
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