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Re: Don't think it'll work... said by SilverSurfer1:The national do not call does in fact work. If you are on that list, and you are contacted by telemarketers, and you have expressly told them to remove you and expressly told them you are on the do not call list, then you can file a complaint at the state/federal level and also take them to small claims court for each infraction. If you're too lazy to do that, then you can't be helped. But don't trash the do not call list and make blanket statements that it "doesn't work." I don't have this do not call service. Just have my ringer turned off and OGM set to announce... unless I am home or expecting a call...most of which I will direct to my cell. But all this is besides the point.... I am responding to what you just said because he is not the only person that has said that, I've heard a bunch of other people say the same thing and even you are saying it...which doesn't make sense, kinda. Which is you get phone calls you aren't supposed to get, then you gotta get riled up and fire off a bunch of complaints and then go to court, blah, blah, blah. It all seems like too much work to me. Same with this tracking stuff, which doesn't bug me in the least. I got my Ad-Block Mozilla add-on and I have my Spybot. If whatever slips thru doesn't inhibit my websurfing nor compromises my web security then I really don't care whether they sell it or pick boogers with it. |
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Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA | It works, and your logic is laughable. "It doesn't work because it requires effort to enforce". I guess we don't have a working law in the country then.. (lets not get into that, okay?)
People who say it doesn't work, largely don't understand how it is supposed to work. Non-profits and survey's CAN still contact you. Business's that you've done business with CAN still contact you. All it's supposed to do is protect you from random spam calls. Which it does very well. I never get these any more. |
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said by AtomicZero:I am responding to what you just said because he is not the only person that has said that, I've heard a bunch of other people say the same thing and even you are saying it... To which I'm guessing you and everyone else who still receive sales calls are most likely still getting them for 1 or 2 primary reasons:
1 - You have an "existing relationship" with the company, whose definition is pretty broad. All that is necessary is to say company XYZ has an existing with you is that you purchased something from the company and/or you spoke to them on the phone.
2 - You haven't learned not to give out the protected number. Personally, I guard my # as zealously as I guard my SSN. I can tell you exacly who has my number and they're either friends/family. I make it a policy to never, under any circumstances EVER disclose my # to a company even if they promise not to sell/trade it.
If you aren't protecting your do not call #, then it is inevitable that at some point, you're going to get a sales call. You have to be vigilant about protecting your data specifically because although the do not call list exists, money still buys loopholes in the law. And if you're a multibillion dollar corporate entity, you've purchased a few politicians to ensure those loopholes in the law exist. That is why the default for consumers is they are forced to jump through hoops in order to Opt Out. |
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 en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | i agree...
Don't sign up for a 'chance to win a car'. At the bottom of one of those 'free' chances, there's a disclaimer that states by doing so, we and any of our business partners (i.e. anyone that we can sell your info to) will be able to contract you, regardless of what's in the 'do not call registry'.
Its almost like having to set up a spam email on your pc. You have to setup a cheap VoIP phone to 'garbage collect' on these types of calls.
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said by Ahrenl:It works, and your logic is laughable. "It doesn't work because it requires effort to enforce". I guess we don't have a working law in the country then.. (lets not get into that, okay?) People who say it doesn't work, largely don't understand how it is supposed to work. Non-profits and survey's CAN still contact you. Business's that you've done business with CAN still contact you. All it's supposed to do is protect you from random spam calls. Which it does very well. I never get these any more. Quite frankly don't see what's so laughable.....My Ad-Blocker works by not showing me ads or pop-ups or pop-unders right? I'm not copying URL threads and having to manually plug them into the software and Blacklist/Whitelist. I don't have to track down the marketeers behind the POP-UP or Banner Ads and write letters and sue them....the Ads just don't show up. A do-not-call number, I would assume, shouldn't have telemarketers or who ever calling that line if it's a protected number...it should already be on a so-called list...published to the marketers as numbers they OUGHT-NOT-CALL! and yet they do.... so who's logic is laughable? |
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said by SilverSurfer1:said by AtomicZero:I am responding to what you just said because he is not the only person that has said that, I've heard a bunch of other people say the same thing and even you are saying it... To which I'm guessing you and everyone else who still receive sales calls are most likely still getting them for 1 or 2 primary reasons: 1 - You have an "existing relationship" with the company, whose definition is pretty broad. All that is necessary is to say company XYZ has an existing with you is that you purchased something from the company and/or you spoke to them on the phone. 2 - You haven't learned not to give out the protected number. Personally, I guard my # as zealously as I guard my SSN. I can tell you exacly who has my number and they're either friends/family. I make it a policy to never, under any circumstances EVER disclose my # to a company even if they promise not to sell/trade it. If you aren't protecting your do not call #, then it is inevitable that at some point, you're going to get a sales call. You have to be vigilant about protecting your data specifically because although the do not call list exists, money still buys loopholes in the law. And if you're a multibillion dollar corporate entity, you've purchased a few politicians to ensure those loopholes in the law exist. That is why the default for consumers is they are forced to jump through hoops in order to Opt Out. I like what you had to say in this one, that's pretty sound advice and I couldn't say it any better....however that was kind of my point. I don't just glibly divulge my number to every and any establishment and that seems to work without me having a do not call system. and as an added measure, since the phone can ring at inopportune times... I simply mute the ringer and put the OGM on announce only. And this seems to work really well....for me anyway. My other point is, if you have a DONOTCALL number then should one NOT have to go thru all these added measures. If in doing so defeats the purpose of having it protected in the first place. |
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joeMI
join:2006-08-15
Mcmillan, MI | reply to en102
said by en102:i agree... Don't sign up for a 'chance to win a car'. At the bottom of one of those 'free' chances, there's a disclaimer that states by doing so, we and any of our business partners (i.e. anyone that we can sell your info to) will be able to contract you, regardless of what's in the 'do not call registry'. Its almost like having to set up a spam email on your pc. You have to setup a cheap VoIP phone to 'garbage collect' on these types of calls. That's nothing.
At a fair in Milwaukee, there was a 'chance to win a PWC' and it required a signature. I thought that was odd. I turned over the slip and the backside had tiny writing that stated by signing the front of the entry blank, you were authorizing your long distance carrier to be switched to some company!
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Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA | reply to AtomicZero
You're blocking ALL Ads. It's very easy to block ALL calls. Email would be a better {cringe} analogy. If you're on the do-not-call list and a business associate wants to call you from work, should his company get in trouble because he does? |
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