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joeMI

join:2006-08-15
Mcmillan, MI

reply to en102
Re: Don't think it'll work...

said by en102 See Profile :

i agree...
Don't sign up for a 'chance to win a car'. At the bottom of one of those 'free' chances, there's a disclaimer that states by doing so, we and any of our business partners (i.e. anyone that we can sell your info to) will be able to contract you, regardless of what's in the 'do not call registry'.
Its almost like having to set up a spam email on your pc. You have to setup a cheap VoIP phone to 'garbage collect' on these types of calls.
That's nothing.

At a fair in Milwaukee, there was a 'chance to win a PWC' and it required a signature. I thought that was odd. I turned over the slip and the backside had tiny writing that stated by signing the front of the entry blank, you were authorizing your long distance carrier to be switched to some company!
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AtomicZero

join:2004-11-24
West Palm Beach, FL

reply to SilverSurfer
said by SilverSurfer See Profile :

said by AtomicZero See Profile :

I am responding to what you just said because he is not the only person that has said that, I've heard a bunch of other people say the same thing and even you are saying it...
To which I'm guessing you and everyone else who still receive sales calls are most likely still getting them for 1 or 2 primary reasons:

1 - You have an "existing relationship" with the company, whose definition is pretty broad. All that is necessary is to say company XYZ has an existing with you is that you purchased something from the company and/or you spoke to them on the phone.

2 - You haven't learned not to give out the protected number. Personally, I guard my # as zealously as I guard my SSN. I can tell you exacly who has my number and they're either friends/family. I make it a policy to never, under any circumstances EVER disclose my # to a company even if they promise not to sell/trade it.

If you aren't protecting your do not call #, then it is inevitable that at some point, you're going to get a sales call. You have to be vigilant about protecting your data specifically because although the do not call list exists, money still buys loopholes in the law. And if you're a multibillion dollar corporate entity, you've purchased a few politicians to ensure those loopholes in the law exist. That is why the default for consumers is they are forced to jump through hoops in order to Opt Out.
I like what you had to say in this one, that's pretty sound advice and I couldn't say it any better....however that was kind of my point. I don't just glibly divulge my number to every and any establishment and that seems to work without me having a do not call system. and as an added measure, since the phone can ring at inopportune times... I simply mute the ringer and put the OGM on announce only. And this seems to work really well....for me anyway. My other point is, if you have a DONOTCALL number then should one NOT have to go thru all these added measures. If in doing so defeats the purpose of having it protected in the first place.


en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
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reply to SilverSurfer
i agree...
Don't sign up for a 'chance to win a car'. At the bottom of one of those 'free' chances, there's a disclaimer that states by doing so, we and any of our business partners (i.e. anyone that we can sell your info to) will be able to contract you, regardless of what's in the 'do not call registry'.
Its almost like having to set up a spam email on your pc. You have to setup a cheap VoIP phone to 'garbage collect' on these types of calls.
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SilverSurfer

join:2007-08-19

reply to AtomicZero
said by AtomicZero See Profile :

I am responding to what you just said because he is not the only person that has said that, I've heard a bunch of other people say the same thing and even you are saying it...
To which I'm guessing you and everyone else who still receive sales calls are most likely still getting them for 1 or 2 primary reasons:

1 - You have an "existing relationship" with the company, whose definition is pretty broad. All that is necessary is to say company XYZ has an existing with you is that you purchased something from the company and/or you spoke to them on the phone.

2 - You haven't learned not to give out the protected number. Personally, I guard my # as zealously as I guard my SSN. I can tell you exacly who has my number and they're either friends/family. I make it a policy to never, under any circumstances EVER disclose my # to a company even if they promise not to sell/trade it.

If you aren't protecting your do not call #, then it is inevitable that at some point, you're going to get a sales call. You have to be vigilant about protecting your data specifically because although the do not call list exists, money still buys loopholes in the law. And if you're a multibillion dollar corporate entity, you've purchased a few politicians to ensure those loopholes in the law exist. That is why the default for consumers is they are forced to jump through hoops in order to Opt Out.
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