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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
reply to backness
Re: Idiot

Being in Windsor, ON.. what does the U.S. FCC have to do with anything concerning you.

openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast

reply to SilverSurfer
Those who aren't willing to pay hundreds/thousands of dollars for their precious connections. Those who want government regulation (tax dollars) to bring them service. Those who want a corporation, no matter what the cost or impact, to extend service to every person in this country.

SilverSurfer

join:2007-08-19

reply to openbox9
said by openbox9 See Profile :

. The problem is, that a lot of customers aren't willing to pay for these connections, they want everyone else to pay for them.
Who are these customers who allegedly "want everyone else to pay for them?"

openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast

reply to SilverSurfer
Don't put words in my mouth. First, I don't see this "abysmal state of broadband" that so many around here whine about. Second, I say bring on the broadband for customers who are willing to pay for the service (and I don't believe any service provider will deny service to those willing to pay for it). The problem is, that a lot of customers aren't willing to pay for these connections, they want everyone else to pay for them.

SilverSurfer

join:2007-08-19

reply to openbox9
said by openbox9 See Profile :

said by nasadude See Profile :

not necessarily; openbox9 simply appears to be an apologist/defender of the status quo. maybe he owns lots of telco stock.
Typical response. I've already said this before, but I'll repeat...I am not an employee, I receive no compensation, nor do I directly own any telecom stock or stock options. I'm simply a guy who's tired of seeing continued waste of my tax dollars and I'm definitely a guy who doesn't want to see increased waste of my tax dollars.
So then you don't actually have a vested financial interest in keeping the abysmal state of broadband at the status quo. You'd like to keep that way just because it appeals to you.

openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast

reply to nasadude
said by nasadude See Profile :

not necessarily; openbox9 simply appears to be an apologist/defender of the status quo. maybe he owns lots of telco stock.
Typical response. I've already said this before, but I'll repeat...I am not an employee, I receive no compensation, nor do I directly own any telecom stock or stock options. I'm simply a guy who's tired of seeing continued waste of my tax dollars and I'm definitely a guy who doesn't want to see increased waste of my tax dollars.

openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast

reply to backness
said by backness See Profile :

as opposed to knowing that one in a particular zip code has a connection?

I take it you were born before 1960?
As opposed to knowing even the zip code level. Seems like a waste of money to me. And, not that it really matters, but I was born in 1973.

nasadude

join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast

reply to backness
said by backness See Profile :

..

I take it you [openbox9] were born before 1960?
not necessarily; openbox9 simply appears to be an apologist/defender of the status quo. maybe he owns lots of telco stock.

SilverSurfer

join:2007-08-19

reply to JSRoman
said by JSRoman See Profile :

I have never sent money to any political campaign but if Martin ever runs for office, I will make a point to send a contribution to whoever is running against him. Can you just imagine this idiot as a senator or house rep.?
Except for the part about sending money -which I would never do even under threat of torture- Martin couldn't possibly be any more of bigger whore than the existing "leaders" in office already are. Name one -just one- that isn't spread & ready whenever his or her respective corporate master(s) john snaps his fingers?

backness

join:2005-07-08
K2P OW2
reply to openbox9
as opposed to knowing that one in a particular zip code has a connection?

I take it you were born before 1960?


RARPSL

join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY

reply to JSRoman
said by JSRoman See Profile :

I have never sent money to any political campaign but if Martin ever runs for office, I will make a point to send a contribution to whoever is running against him. Can you just imagine this idiot as a senator or house rep.?
He will not run for office. He will just shop his resume around to all the Telcos who he is owed by for his actions with the FCC and accept the best Job Offer (Deferred Bribe) he gets.

openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
reply to karlmarx
I always find your posts humorous. Can you point to anything, anywhere, that shows such "infrastructure" expenditures?


karlmarx

join:2006-09-18
iraq
·Fairpoint Communic..

reply to TKJunkMail
Billions and Billions? I think not. What they ARE doing, is paying the fat cat salaries out of 'infrastructure'. Any paying for their corporate jets, and yachts as 'infrastructure'. Actually running wires? Purchasing and installing new equipment? MAYBE 5% of their so called 'infrastrucure' budget. They ALWAYS put their perks in CAPITAL COSTS, so they can write them off.

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TScheisskopf
World News Trust

join:2005-02-13
Belvidere, NJ
·Sprint Broadband D..

reply to fiberguy
said by fiberguy See Profile :

said by rudnicke See Profile :

Martin is a moron. Plain and simple.
Of all the people that Bush appointed,... why ini the world hasn't THIS one quit like the others???
Best question of the day. I would suspect that his telco buddies told him to stay until the bitter end.

openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast

reply to backness
said by backness See Profile :

Each provider has the ACTUAL list, this should be a non issue, except its a political hot potato.
Maybe the real issue is why does it really matter if we know every single street address that has access.

openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
reply to bi0tech
How are they "decades behind"? Or are you speaking of minimal ISDN rollouts over the last couple of decades? Presumably, you meant 5, maybe 10 if you really want to stretch, years behind.

JSRoman
Premium
join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL

reply to fiberguy
I have never sent money to any political campaign but if Martin ever runs for office, I will make a point to send a contribution to whoever is running against him. Can you just imagine this idiot as a senator or house rep.?
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backness

join:2005-07-08
K2P OW2

reply to fiberguy
probably cause he can't go any higher...

Also lets face the facts,

The people in charge think that a 1970's model of measuring broadband is "adequate"

Do we really have to say anything else?

Each provider has the ACTUAL list, this should be a non issue, except its a political hot potato.

I think this is best evidence that this job should not be a political appointment

fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20

reply to rudnicke
said by rudnicke See Profile :

Martin is a moron. Plain and simple.
Of all the people that Bush appointed,... why ini the world hasn't THIS one quit like the others???
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bi0tech

join:2003-06-19


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reply to TKJunkMail
Your statement would make more sense if most of these providers weren't decades behind in improving said infrastructure already. Verizon is the only large provider I recall that has actually opened up the ol'wallet for some forward looking technology. And they have taken a hell of a beating from shareholders for doing it.
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