Re: Idiot in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19363828 en Wed, 02 Dec 2009 08:18:57 EDT Wed, 02 Dec 2009 08:18:57 EDT Re: Idiot http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19372790 fiberguy : Being in Windsor, ON.. what does the U.S. FCC have to do with anything concerning you.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19372790 Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:21:31 EDT Re: Idiot http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19370723 openbox9 : Those who aren't willing to pay hundreds/thousands of dollars for their precious connections. Those who want government regulation (tax dollars) to bring them service. Those who want a corporation, no matter what the cost or impact, to extend service to every person in this country.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19370723 Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:31:53 EDT Re: Idiot http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19370672 SilverSurfer :
said by openbox9 See Profile :

. The problem is, that a lot of customers aren't willing to pay for these connections, they want everyone else to pay for them.
Who are these customers who allegedly "want everyone else to pay for them?" ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19370672 Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:25:59 EDT Re: Idiot http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19370457 openbox9 : Don't put words in my mouth. First, I don't see this "abysmal state of broadband" that so many around here whine about. Second, I say bring on the broadband for customers who are willing to pay for the service (and I don't believe any service provider will deny service to those willing to pay for it). The problem is, that a lot of customers aren't willing to pay for these connections, they want everyone else to pay for them.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19370457 Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:00:28 EDT Re: Idiot http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19370372 SilverSurfer :
said by openbox9 See Profile :

said by nasadude See Profile :

not necessarily; openbox9 simply appears to be an apologist/defender of the status quo. maybe he owns lots of telco stock.
Typical response. I've already said this before, but I'll repeat...I am not an employee, I receive no compensation, nor do I directly own any telecom stock or stock options. I'm simply a guy who's tired of seeing continued waste of my tax dollars and I'm definitely a guy who doesn't want to see increased waste of my tax dollars.
So then you don't actually have a vested financial interest in keeping the abysmal state of broadband at the status quo. You'd like to keep that way just because it appeals to you. :huh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19370372 Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:45:12 EDT Re: Idiot http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19365812 openbox9 :
said by nasadude See Profile :

not necessarily; openbox9 simply appears to be an apologist/defender of the status quo. maybe he owns lots of telco stock.
Typical response. I've already said this before, but I'll repeat...I am not an employee, I receive no compensation, nor do I directly own any telecom stock or stock options. I'm simply a guy who's tired of seeing continued waste of my tax dollars and I'm definitely a guy who doesn't want to see increased waste of my tax dollars.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19365812 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:53:53 EDT Re: Idiot http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19365804 openbox9 :
said by backness See Profile :

as opposed to knowing that one in a particular zip code has a connection?

I take it you were born before 1960?
As opposed to knowing even the zip code level. Seems like a waste of money to me. And, not that it really matters, but I was born in 1973.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19365804 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:51:43 EDT Re: Idiot http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19364597 nasadude :
said by backness See Profile :

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I take it you [openbox9] were born before 1960?
not necessarily; openbox9 simply appears to be an apologist/defender of the status quo. maybe he owns lots of telco stock.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19364597 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:48:07 EDT Re: Idiot http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19364569 SilverSurfer :
said by JSRoman See Profile :

I have never sent money to any political campaign but if Martin ever runs for office, I will make a point to send a contribution to whoever is running against him. Can you just imagine this idiot as a senator or house rep.?
Except for the part about sending money -which I would never do even under threat of torture- Martin couldn't possibly be any more of bigger whore than the existing "leaders" in office already are. Name one -just one- that isn't spread & ready whenever his or her respective corporate master(s) john snaps his fingers? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19364569 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:43:11 EDT Re: Idiot http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19364415 backness : as opposed to knowing that one in a particular zip code has a connection?

I take it you were born before 1960?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19364415 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:19:26 EDT Re: Idiot http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19364293 RARPSL :
said by JSRoman See Profile :

I have never sent money to any political campaign but if Martin ever runs for office, I will make a point to send a contribution to whoever is running against him. Can you just imagine this idiot as a senator or house rep.?
He will not run for office. He will just shop his resume around to all the Telcos who he is owed by for his actions with the FCC and accept the best Job Offer (Deferred Bribe) he gets.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19364293 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:59:38 EDT Re: Idiot http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19364165 openbox9 : I always find your posts humorous. Can you point to anything, anywhere, that shows such "infrastructure" expenditures?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19364165 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:41:33 EDT Re: Idiot http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19364108 karlmarx : Billions and Billions? I think not. What they ARE doing, is paying the fat cat salaries out of 'infrastructure'. Any paying for their corporate jets, and yachts as 'infrastructure'. Actually running wires? Purchasing and installing new equipment? MAYBE 5% of their so called 'infrastrucure' budget. They ALWAYS put their perks in CAPITAL COSTS, so they can write them off.

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said by rudnicke See Profile :

Martin is a moron. Plain and simple.
Of all the people that Bush appointed,... why ini the world hasn't THIS one quit like the others??? :huh:
Best question of the day. I would suspect that his telco buddies told him to stay until the bitter end.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19364054 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:23:26 EDT Re: Idiot http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19363862 openbox9 :
said by backness See Profile :

Each provider has the ACTUAL list, this should be a non issue, except its a political hot potato.
Maybe the real issue is why does it really matter if we know every single street address that has access. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19363862 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:54:55 EDT Re: Idiot http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19363828 openbox9 : How are they "decades behind"? Or are you speaking of minimal ISDN rollouts over the last couple of decades? Presumably, you meant 5, maybe 10 if you really want to stretch, years behind.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19363828 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:50:04 EDT Re: Idiot http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19363783 JSRoman : I have never sent money to any political campaign but if Martin ever runs for office, I will make a point to send a contribution to whoever is running against him. Can you just imagine this idiot as a senator or house rep.?
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Also lets face the facts,

The people in charge think that a 1970's model of measuring broadband is "adequate"

Do we really have to say anything else?

Each provider has the ACTUAL list, this should be a non issue, except its a political hot potato.

I think this is best evidence that this job should not be a political appointment]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19363777 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:42:49 EDT Re: Idiot http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19363560 fiberguy :
said by rudnicke See Profile :

Martin is a moron. Plain and simple.
Of all the people that Bush appointed,... why ini the world hasn't THIS one quit like the others??? :huh:
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said by TScheisskopf See Profile :

Martin is doing what the industry wants: everything he can so they do not have to make more in the way of capital investments in infrastructure, which is also what Wall Street wants.
Your statement might make SOME sense except for the fact that the telcos and cable companies are investing billions of dollars in infrastructure improvements every year. Don't you read the qtrly company reports posted here at BBR that show how much they are spending every quarter on infrastructure?
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On one hand, the industry as a whole cries "Don't make broadband a utility and things will improve at a far faster rate".

On the other hand, things don't improve at a far faster rate, but the industry keeps pushing for more deregulation and considerations from the FCC. They generally get what they want, too.

Martin also keeps BPL because the eletricity carriers want another revenue stream, technical problems be damned.

I predict that when it all shakes out, Kevin Martin will be considered something of a disaster for telecommunications and cable. They are gonna have to play catch-up at some point, and when they do, it will cost just that much more and leave more marks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19362925 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 10:21:23 EDT Idiot http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19362835 rudnicke : Martin is a moron. Plain and simple. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19362835 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 10:06:14 EDT