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bi0tech
join:2003-06-19 | Re: Policy goals and rules are different things If you truly in the majority then you must be one of the millions that still dont have a slightest clue what any of this means, shrugs it off, and goes back to their day to day lives.
Yawn for continual misrepresentation of everything. | |
|  nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
 ·Comcast
| Re: Policy goals and rules are different things said by bi0tech  :... Yawn for continual misrepresentation of everything. TCH/HCT doesn't actually misrepresent anything, he is just here to protect the poor telcos/cablecos from us mean people with a clue. | |
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LeftOfSanity
join:2005-11-06
Felton, DE
| Re: Policy goals and rules are different things said by nasadude :said by bi0tech :... Yawn for continual misrepresentation of everything. TCH/HCT doesn't actually misrepresent anything, he is just here to protect the poor telcos/cablecos from us mean people with a clue. Right. All you keyboard crusaders are FOR THE PEOPLE!
1. Its their network to manage. Be glad they don't block it all together.
2. Vote with your wallet. If they are your only provider, then be thankful. Why bitch at the only company giving you service? Not Comcasts fault DSL isnt available.
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Fighting on the Internet is like winning the Special Olympics. Win or lose, your still Retarted! | |
| | | nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
| Re: Policy goals and rules are different things said by LeftOfSanity :Right. All you keyboard crusaders are FOR THE PEOPLE! 1. Its their network to manage. Be glad they don't block it all together. 2. Vote with your wallet. If they are your only provider, then be thankful. Why bitch at the only company giving you service? Not Comcasts fault DSL isnt available. we are the people - I don't work for a telecom/cable company, nor do I have any stock in these companies (unless it's in my retirement 401K). my interest is a speedy broadband connection at a reasonable price that lets me visit ANY site available on the internet.
1. yes, within the confines of laws and regulations, which these days either go unenforced or are in the process of being gutted for the benefit of the incumbents. if they blocked it entirely, they wouldn't exactly be providing a service.
2. comcast is my only provider and I am not thankful, nor is there reason for me to be. also, I don't really blame comcast, I blame the government, which should be doing things in the interests of consumers and the country. the current situation IS NOT good for consumers or the country - the longer the government allows the current monopoly/duopoly situation to exist, the further we will fall behind the rest of the world. if you can't see this is a bad thing, I doubt I can change your mind. | |
| | | jsouth
Jsouth
join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS
| It may be their network to manage but they also have an obligation to the customer with whom they have a contract with. If they would change their TOS and come out and say we have caps of this much and this is allowed/not allowed on our service and if you use it you will find if blocked, then that would be ok because it would give people a choice to change service or not. AS it is now they hide this information in the hopes that they can keep people who might normally leave with their service. This is a form of fraud in my eyes. Sure people here can leave and "vote with their wallet" as you have said. Why? Why? should a customer have to go through a hardship just because a company perpetuates fraud. A few people leaving won't teach them anything. Having to change their TOS, Possible pay a fine and possibly having hundreds of people leaving would.
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Bush bashing is old. How about more solutions instead? | |
| | | | openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | Re: Policy goals and rules are different things By continuing to pay your monthly bill, your "contract" updates routinely and you agree to said "contract, ToS, and AUP. I'm failing to see how you are able to claim fraud. | |
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Jsouth
join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS
| Re: Policy goals and rules are different things By continuing to pay your monthly bill, your "contract" updates routinely and you agree to said "contract, ToS, and AUP. I'm failing to see how you are able to claim fraud
It my update as you say but the information in it has not changed. They still deny they even use any kind of traffic-shaping and do not have clear caps listed. Other cable companies do (like COX whom I use) and they have had no problems. Why can't Comcast? What are they trying to hide?
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LeftOfSanity
join:2005-11-06
Felton, DE
| Re: Policy goals and rules are different things said by jsouth :By continuing to pay your monthly bill, your "contract" updates routinely and you agree to said "contract, ToS, and AUP. I'm failing to see how you are able to claim fraud It my update as you say but the information in it has not changed. They still deny they even use any kind of traffic-shaping and do not have clear caps listed. Other cable companies do (like COX whom I use) and they have had no problems. Why can't Comcast? What are they trying to hide? They don't deny it. They said they don't block it, which they don't. They said they take steps to manage their network so it doesn't degrade for other users. You may say "It's not my problem their network can't handle it." Maybe, and hopefully when Docsis 3 rolls out it won't be a problem. They don't neglect their infrastructure, they may not be as speedy as we all would like but unfortunatley there is red tape and shareholders to deal with. | |
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