 morboComplete Your Transaction
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Re: Policy goals and rules are different things said by openbox9:As long as the throttling takes place across the board for network management, I don't see the net neutrality issue. if providers use it across the board, that just provides more evidence for the need for strict net neutrality laws. if providers only use it on under-developed nodes or over saturated nodes, then that is more understandable but still a violation of net neutrality laws.
net neutrality is a slippery slope. this is the first slip but will definitely not be the last. |
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| said by morbo:if providers use it across the board, that just provides more evidence for the need for strict net neutrality laws. if providers only use it on under-developed nodes or over saturated nodes, then that is more understandable but still a violation of net neutrality laws. Discussed before:
»A good 3rd party independent ananlysis of Net Neutrality
»Net Neutrality is NOT about being protocol neutral
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openbox9
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said by morbo:if providers use it across the board, that just provides more evidence for the need for strict net neutrality laws. This is NOT a net neutrality issue. If the legislators ever actually screw up and get some net neutrality type of law passed, I think there will be a lot of disappointed BBR members. |
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morboComplete Your Transaction
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despite what you may think, you just saying something doesn't make it so. |
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morboComplete Your Transaction
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as long as the law takes into account the best interests of the business community and its consumers (and not best interests of dumb-pipe providers like comcast and at&t), then the net neutrality laws will make comcasts actions illegal. |
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openbox9
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kudos:2 | I seriously doubt you will ever see an ISPs ability to manage their network made illegal. If you do, get ready for price increases and/or decreases in service offerings. |
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morboComplete Your Transaction
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00000 | manage a network and degrade and block certain legitimate traffic are two different things.
it's important that everyone understand the issue clearly. |
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openbox9
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kudos:2 | said by morbo:manage a network and degrade and block certain legitimate traffic are two different things. it's important that everyone understand the issue clearly. If I'm managing a network and it is getting pummeled by abusive users, I will cap and shape whatever needs to be done to bring the network back to a nominal level for a majority of my customers. You say degrade, I say shape. You say block, I say who's blocking? Capping is a good solution and shaping is good for the peak times of use that the abusive users get online. |
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morboComplete Your Transaction
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00000 | semantic debate that will be settled with appropriate net neutrality laws. let's see who wins... |
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openbox9
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kudos:2 | It's not a debate of semantics, it's network management. I'll go back to my original statement that I believe there will be a lot of disappointed BBR readers if your net neutrality law ever sees daylight. |
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 espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
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said by morbo:manage a network and degrade and block certain legitimate traffic are two different things. Ok, I'll play.
How does one manage capacity without interfering with at least some quantity of traffic? |
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