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openbox9

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reply to morbo

Re: Policy goals and rules are different things

said by morbo:

if providers use it across the board, that just provides more evidence for the need for strict net neutrality laws.
This is NOT a net neutrality issue. If the legislators ever actually screw up and get some net neutrality type of law passed, I think there will be a lot of disappointed BBR members.


morbo
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as long as the law takes into account the best interests of the business community and its consumers (and not best interests of dumb-pipe providers like comcast and at&t), then the net neutrality laws will make comcasts actions illegal.


openbox9

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I seriously doubt you will ever see an ISPs ability to manage their network made illegal. If you do, get ready for price increases and/or decreases in service offerings.



morbo
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manage a network and degrade and block certain legitimate traffic are two different things.

it's important that everyone understand the issue clearly.


openbox9

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said by morbo:

manage a network and degrade and block certain legitimate traffic are two different things.

it's important that everyone understand the issue clearly.
If I'm managing a network and it is getting pummeled by abusive users, I will cap and shape whatever needs to be done to bring the network back to a nominal level for a majority of my customers. You say degrade, I say shape. You say block, I say who's blocking? Capping is a good solution and shaping is good for the peak times of use that the abusive users get online.


morbo
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semantic debate that will be settled with appropriate net neutrality laws. let's see who wins...


openbox9

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It's not a debate of semantics, it's network management. I'll go back to my original statement that I believe there will be a lot of disappointed BBR readers if your net neutrality law ever sees daylight.



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reply to morbo

said by morbo:

manage a network and degrade and block certain legitimate traffic are two different things.
Ok, I'll play.

How does one manage capacity without interfering with at least some quantity of traffic?

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