cjski
The Wheel Weaves As The Wheel Will
join:2001-01-04
Sun City, CA
| 2006 Honda Civic :(
So I took my Honda in to the dealer to find out what is wrong with it. (noises from rear tires area and engine noises) Here's what is wrong...
1) bearings on both rear tires are bad
2) idler pully bad
3) broken engine mount
3) leaking power steering pump
Roughly $400 in parts and $600 in labor...I told them to order the parts and I'll do the labor myself...
This is after having to have the engine block replaced 6 months ago because there was a pinhole leak between cylinders that was spewing radiator fluid...lucky for me that covered that even though I was out of warranty by a few thousand (8K) miles, or else that would have ran me about $5,000 - $6,000.
I thought Hondas were supposed to be reliable? That's why I bought this car, because I use my car for work! (80,000 miles in 1.5 yrs)
Anyway, does anyone know where I can pick up a shop manual? The dealer didn't seem to have any in stock, and I can't seem to find any online... |
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CylonRed
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Any car can have issues - I have had no real issues with my Honda even though I took it to the race track 6 times and flogged it.
One car with problems does not mean they are unreliable. Note, however, that Honda at least fixed something technically out of warranty and for me that is a huger difference when compared to some other car companies.
My IL's Honda mini-van had a tranny recall - no matter the mileage if there was damage to the tranny - it was replaced for free. No damage? They fixed the problem - free. |
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Anonuser
join:2003-01-03
Milwaukee, WI
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I've only had problems with Civics. My family's accords 1991's to the 1999 that we have, (we have total of 5 accords in the family), have never had any problems.
The 1 civic we have, is having the same problems as you. Rear bearings are bad, frond drivers bearing is bad. Engine mound needs repair, pully is going, small leak in the intake.
That car is driving me nuts.
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Warzau
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join:2000-10-26
Naperville, IL
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2006 is it already out of warranty?
BTW my last Civic 95 5th Gen was bulletproof, 150k mile when sold. Only thing I had repaired was CV boots, condesor and alternator. And No I never riced it out.
BTW I would go back and complain and escalate it to manager and then regional and try to get goodwill pricing if it's out of warranty. |
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Lurch77
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said by CylonRed  :One car with problems does not mean they are unreliable. Note, however, that Honda at least fixed something technically out of warranty and for me that is a huger difference when compared to some other car companies. That's not all that impressive now days. Chrysler did the same thing with my friend's Grand Caravan. The company's that do not do that are the minority these days. There is so much competition out there now, domestic and import branded, they are all trying for brand loyalty.
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CylonRed
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1 edit | And Chrysler gave us the finger when we inquired about our vans tranny when it died without warning (30 year30K mile only - no exceptions). Sorry - it is still the exception in my and people I know experience... |
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Boogeyman
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join:2002-12-17
Huntsville, AL
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That all depends on the dealership. Some dealers will say, ok, we'll get that fixed for you. Others will say, sorry, thats not covered under warranty (even if it is covered) and most people will just take thier word for it and dish out a ton of $ to get it fixed.
Theres even still a lot of dealerships that refuse to fix an unrealated problem if you have aftermarket parts on your car.
Back OT...
Do you drive your car hard? Busting a motor mount after only 1 1/2 years is pretty rare to my knowledge. Do you live in a place that has sub freezing winters and 90+ degree summers? Do you travel a lot on gravel/dirt? Is it really dusty? I beleive those situations can severely limit the lifespan of some things, like the mounts and bearings.
You could have also gotten the car that the quality control inspector forgot to inspect, lol. Seriously though, Its a first model year for the new civic, and they still have a few kinks to work out apperantly. |
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brianiscool
join:2000-08-16
Miami, FL | reply to cjski
I have problems with my Honda 2000 Accord LX I've spent about $4000 in repairs this year. |
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TODarling
U.S. Army Retired
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join:2004-11-27
Fort Smith, AR | Here is a good article on secret warranties. Things the automakers don't want you to know.
»www.autosafety.org/article.php?d···scid=112 |
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Lurch77
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said by CylonRed :And Chrysler gave us the finger when we inquired about our vans tranny when it died without warning (30 year30K mile only - no exceptions). Sorry - it is still the exception in my and people I knows experience... I half expected such a reply. But what can I say? I guess it sucked to be you guys.
But my point was not about a particular brand. My point is backed up by looking at the warranty many auto makers and dealers are offering these days. You are seeing more and more 50,000, 80,000, 100,000 mile, even limited lifetime warranties.
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chadrob30
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Fort Smith, AR | I have a 2007 Mustang that had the transmission go bad at 4300 miles. The dealer attempted to blame me for racing the car, lol. Eventually the service guys shut up and replaced the transmission. I have pretty much lost faith in new cars. |
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CylonRed
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join:2000-07-06
Bloom County
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And the key to the statement is - limited... I just made sure I got a new tranny that was not a Chrysler as I would only get the same 3 year/36K mile warranty. I now have a better, but more expensive, tranny that I trust more than the schlock that was in the car to begin with.
Huge mileage warranties mean virtually nothing as there are PLENTY of loopholes for the manufacturer to avoid paying for problems - even if they are well known.
Give me a better car with a 3 year/36K miles warranty over a so-so car with huge - but limited warranty any day and a car manufacturer that really gives a flying leap about their customers any day.
I have yet to see anything that Chrysler/GM or Ford has changed their stripes recently. |
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Lurch77
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| You have a non-Chrysler transmission in your van? Extremely doubtful. No aftermarket transmissions are made for the minivan. Just because you bought it from a different supplier with their own warranty does not mean it is a not a Chrysler part.
Anyway, cjski, to answer your question, there are a lot of sources for repair manuals for your car. Ebay has both the official Honda service manual, and others from Haynes and Chilton. Online book stores carry many, and just about any of your local auto parts stores should carry the books. But only the Honda dealer and a place like ebay will you be able to find the official Honda service manual.
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Lurch77
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said by CylonRed :And the key to the statement is - limited... Chrysler, Dodge, and Jeep vehicles sold after July 26, 2007 come with that limited lifetime powertrain warranty. It includes the engine, transmission, and drive system. 100% labor and parts. The limited part is not a big deal. It simply means the warranty is good for the first registered owner only, and the vehicle must have a powertrain inspection done by the dealership every 5 years, at no cost to you. Buying a used version, making you the second or later register owner, reverts the warranty back to the standard 3 year 36,000 version. |
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CylonRed
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join:2000-07-06
Bloom County
| By definition it is limited... Funny that a big deal is made for not only limited warranty that lasts a long time but one that only applies to the original owner. When Honda had issues with their minivan tranny's - the transmissions were inspected and if damaged replaced for free and if there was no damage - they fixed the issue - no matter the mileage and owner.
They also increased the warranty for our Accord Wagon - for the emissions specifically. They replaced the rotor, cap, wires, plugs oil, oil filter, and inspected and replaced any emissions related items that failed the inspection - for free no matter who the owner was.
THAT is a real warranty and that is the type of company that will get my business. |
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the_doctor
join:2001-10-18
Lake Zurich, IL
| reply to cjski
From NHTSA website
Make / Models : Model/Build Years:
HONDA / CIVIC 2006-2007
Recall Number: 07V399000
Summary:
ON CERTAIN VEHICLES, THE WHEEL SPEED SENSOR HOUSING USES AN O-RING SEAL TO PREVENT LEAKAGE TO OR FROM THE WHEEL BEARING. IF ASSEMBLED IMPROPERLY, THE O-RING MAY NOT SEAL PROPERLY ALLOWING WATER TO ENTER THE WHEEL BEARING AND EVENTUALLY CAUSE DAMAGE TO THE BEARING, ESPECIALLY IN AREAS WHERE USE OF ROAD SALT IS PREVALENT. IF THE DRIVER CONTINUES TO DRIVE WITH THIS CONDITION IT IS POSSIBLE FOR THE WHEEL BEARING TO BECOME LOOSE, WHICH COULD CAUSE THE BEARING TO FAIL.
Consequence:
THIS COULD CAUSE A WHEEL TO FALL OFF OF THE VEHICLE, POSSIBLY RESULTING IN A CRASH.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL INSPECT THE REAR ABS SENSORS AND WHEEL BEARINGS FOR DAMAGED PARTS AND REPLACE THEM FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON SEPTEMBER 25, 2007. OWNERS MAY CONTACT HONDA AT 1-800-999-1009.
Notes:
HONDA RECALL NO. Q56. CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION¿S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV.
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CylonRed
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join:2000-07-06
Bloom County | reply to Lurch77
Chrysler exterior but sturdier parts than Chrysler OEM and a longer warranty to boot. |
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cjski
The Wheel Weaves As The Wheel Will
join:2001-01-04
Sun City, CA
| reply to the_doctor
engine mount | 
part for engine mount | 
idler pulley | 
wheel bearings |
said by the_doctor :From NHTSA website Make / Models : Model/Build Years: HONDA / CIVIC 2006-2007 Recall Number: 07V399000 Summary: ON CERTAIN VEHICLES, THE WHEEL SPEED SENSOR HOUSING USES AN O-RING SEAL TO PREVENT LEAKAGE TO OR FROM THE WHEEL BEARING. IF ASSEMBLED IMPROPERLY, THE O-RING MAY NOT SEAL PROPERLY ALLOWING WATER TO ENTER THE WHEEL BEARING AND EVENTUALLY CAUSE DAMAGE TO THE BEARING... Well they did the inspection and said that the o-ring was fine...oh, and by the way, both of your bearings are bad...
That's not someting I would normally expect to happen in 80K miles, so I called the 1-800 number and started a dispute with them...
In the meantime, I picked up all the parts to fix the other items listed (including wheel bearings), which will save me $600 in labor...but I may need help with somee info.
As I stated previously, I can't seem to track down a shop manual for a 2006 civic (too new), including the dealer and alldata.com, so I may have questions when I start getting into it. |
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Warzau
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Naperville, IL
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Actually not really the best is Helm the ones the professionals use. If you are going to be working on your car alot invest in it.
»www.helminc.com/helm/Result.asp?···TTRM8TW6 |
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