Topic 'Re: [northeast] DNS hijacking in effect (new)' in forum 'Verizon Fiber Optics' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-northeast-DNS-hijacking-in-effect-new-19375473 en Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:13:20 EDT Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:13:20 EDT Re: [northeast] DNS hijacking in effect (new) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-northeast-DNS-hijacking-in-effect-new-19402809 said by KA3SGM:

said by noping:

xxx.xxx.xxx.14 (the opt-out address) works just fine here. No ads, default behaviour.

Plenty of DNS alternatives if you don't like Verizon/OpenDNS, use 4.2.2.1-4.2.2.6.

That, or roll your own: »ntcanuck.com/downloads.htm
NOPING, YES, I COMPLETELY AGREE, use the Level3 DNS servers, they are faster, more reliable, and won't redirect their SPAM pages to your IP address.

I typically use the 4.2.2.2, and 4.2.2.3 DNS servers, and have never suffered a long or re-directed response.

OPEN DNS still offers you up to a SPAMED results page, if you don't have the precise address you were trying to reach.
I agree and will ad this, ntcanuck's treedns is a caching server so once it get's a name it stores it and next time you don't need to lookit up it get's it from it's cache, i've used since Leo Laporte on techtv turned us on to it.

hey ka3sgm it's a shame the lithium is no longer on credit ;) I can't live without it :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-northeast-DNS-hijacking-in-effect-new-19402809 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:01:05 EDT Re: [northeast] DNS hijacking in effect (new) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-northeast-DNS-hijacking-in-effect-new-19380304
Of course once wrestling my way through the interface I changed to a server I run and one of the L3 anycasts. Use whatever you like but MEASURE the path first (traceroute at least). Folks saying "everyone should use FOO" are ignoring that topology matters. The reason service providers deploy DNS resolvers near customers is to be sure lookups -part of any transaction- do not slow down applications. Using any distant DNS servers is introducing other variables, possible outages, etc.

The 'opt-out' garbage in this case [paxfire, it seems; www.paxfire.com to direct additional comments] is related only to web browsers. Glad they have unmolested servers available. DNS is basic plumbing and not a revenue stream.
Your best bet, if you don't use bad software, is to deploy a local resolver yourself.

Coffee, local resolver, get on with my day.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-northeast-DNS-hijacking-in-effect-new-19380304 Sun, 04 Nov 2007 07:46:00 EDT Re: [northeast] DNS hijacking in effect (new) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-northeast-DNS-hijacking-in-effect-new-19379451 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-northeast-DNS-hijacking-in-effect-new-19379451 Sun, 04 Nov 2007 00:21:05 EDT Re: [northeast] DNS hijacking in effect (new) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-northeast-DNS-hijacking-in-effect-new-19379030 said by noping:

xxx.xxx.xxx.14 (the opt-out address) works just fine here. No ads, default behaviour.

Plenty of DNS alternatives if you don't like Verizon/OpenDNS, use 4.2.2.1-4.2.2.6.

That, or roll your own: »ntcanuck.com/downloads.htm
NOPING, YES, I COMPLETELY AGREE, use the Level3 DNS servers, they are faster, more reliable, and won't redirect their SPAM pages to your IP address.

I typically use the 4.2.2.2, and 4.2.2.3 DNS servers, and have never suffered a long or re-directed response.

OPEN DNS still offers you up to a SPAMED results page, if you don't have the precise address you were trying to reach.
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I don't like it myself, so I take care of my own DNS. Even if that's not practical for you, there are plenty of sources that you could use to avoid this.

Welcome to the web circa 2007. Everything is a potential advertising source.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-northeast-DNS-hijacking-in-effect-new-19378956 Sat, 03 Nov 2007 22:38:11 EDT Re: [northeast] DNS hijacking in effect (new) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-northeast-DNS-hijacking-in-effect-new-19378708
Plenty of DNS alternatives if you don't like Verizon/OpenDNS, use 4.2.2.1-4.2.2.6.

That, or roll your own: »ntcanuck.com/downloads.htm]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-northeast-DNS-hijacking-in-effect-new-19378708 Sat, 03 Nov 2007 21:47:03 EDT Re: [northeast] DNS hijacking in effect (new) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-northeast-DNS-hijacking-in-effect-new-19375911
At the bottom of the advertisement page are directions that purport to allow a return to 404 functionality (essentially by hardcoding the dns in the routers to the values that were automatically configured, except the last octet changed to 14). This chnage provides a different advertisement page, but not the simple 404 report.

I evaluated the opendns offerenings as well, that service also appears to server up short ad pages instead of simple 404. Further, opendns documents suggest that they achive their funding to offer the free dns service by serving up the ads.

Bottom line, Verizon's new default, Verizon's work around, and opendns all provide ads now.

Bruce]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-northeast-DNS-hijacking-in-effect-new-19375911 Sat, 03 Nov 2007 11:20:12 EDT Re: [northeast] DNS hijacking in effect (new) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-northeast-DNS-hijacking-in-effect-new-19375905 Verizon FiOS DNS Redirection?

Been talked about for a few weeks here in various threads. Point it to OpenDNS if you want. They do the same thing though if there's no real DNS entry for what you entered.

The BS only pops up if you enter something that doesn't exist, right??
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If you want to keep using the Verizon DNS servers (they're quite fast, slightly faster than OpenDNS and Level3's 4.2.2.1), change it from xxx.xxx.xxx.12 to xxx.xxx.xxx.14 in your router.
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You can use any DNS server you want ... what does this have to do with FIOS?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-northeast-DNS-hijacking-in-effect-new-19375485 Sat, 03 Nov 2007 09:08:13 EDT [northeast] DNS hijacking in effect (new) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/northeast-DNS-hijacking-in-effect-new-19375473
This is ridiculous - I might go back to loser data speeds on charter if they keep this crap up. Definitely calling today.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/northeast-DNS-hijacking-in-effect-new-19375473 Sat, 03 Nov 2007 09:03:16 EDT