| adversely impacts our network or service levels It seems to me this becomes an issue of network capacity rather than abuse.
Example: I have a 6000/768 DSL line. I offer to sell 6000/768 wifi service to 3 of my neighbors, based on the theory that none of them will be using it at the same time. Then they all get on at one time, and end up fighting for the same limited bandwidth. Each of them has now "adversely impacted my network or service levels", just by using the bandwidth they were promised. In reality, I shouldn't have offered to sell 3x my maximum bandwidth capacity, making it my fault.
The same is true of internet service. Don't oversell your bandwidth, and you won't have to worry about anyone "adversely impacts our network or service levels"
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said by Camelot One:The same is true of internet service. Don't oversell your bandwidth, and you won't have to worry about anyone "adversely impacts our network or service levels" The only way you get 10-30mb for under $75/mo is overselling bandwidth. If you want dedicated, get a T1 (1.5mb) for a few hundred dollars a month. Otherwise, it's shared, oversold bandwidth.
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| said by GeekNJ:said by Camelot One:The same is true of internet service. Don't oversell your bandwidth, and you won't have to worry about anyone "adversely impacts our network or service levels" The only way you get 10-30mb for under $75/mo is overselling bandwidth. If you want dedicated, get a T1 (1.5mb) for a few hundred dollars a month. Otherwise, it's shared, oversold bandwidth. I agree. But advertise it as such.
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Somewhat off topic, but... Even T1's can be oversold... and I'd go so far as to say that more often than you think, they actually are. This holds especially true for PRI's in my experience. One of the big differences between broadband and SLA'ed circuits is that they're oversold at vastly different ratios though; I know a "certain company" that does T1's at a 1:2 ratio (one unit of WAN resources per two customers), vs. a broadband connection that is oversold at a ratio of 1:25 or more. Everyone oversells -- it's the foundation of the telecommunication industry. It is what it is.
I think a key thing to remember when discussing overselling is that it doesn't necessarily mean that the circuit itself is oversold. Take DSL for example. Even though you are on a dedicated P2P loop, once the circuit terminates at an RT or CO, that facility's backhaul or WAN connection could easily be saturated with traffic if it's serving a dense area and all the users decide to stream video at the same time.
At present, there just isn't any economically feasible way to ensure true 1:1 ratios, whether the bottleneck is in the plant (like cable), or the headend (like telco). Things may be much different once the world is covered with fiber or new breakthroughs are made in radio communications though...
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Re: adversely impacts our network or service levels I think that's there under the ISP's "best effort" clauses. They'll sell you a rated line, but if the node's saturated, you then get the ISP's "best effort" at the maintained speed.
Basically, if you want a line that'll be avaliable 24/7 at the speed you've purchased, you need a business line. Otherwise, you're subject to the TOS they hand out for residential/consumer lines. |
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